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Anonymous wrote:I attended UMD. My two other colleagues attended Stanford and UPenn. All three of us have to report to a boss who attended Berklee School of Music and he makes three times, around 900K, more than we do.

But how many Berklee School of Music grads work at your company in general compared to the three schools you mention?

However, you bring up another great point by mentioning Berklee. I believe if you look at Julliard and Berklee from a pure average life outcome/earnings, they rank very low, with the average salary low and student-debt high. Yet, they are both the top schools for music/arts in the country and I guarantee you people obsess about those schools as well.

Why is that the case? Because everyone that gets accepted thinks they can be the next John Mayer or Quincy Jones (Berklee) or Anthony Mackee or Viola Davis (Julliard)...even though 98% won't. In fact, the vast majority will really struggle in life from a $$$s perspective, so you could say that they are making poor decisions as well.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP: At the base level, it is really about wanting a better life for one's kids.

Is that a bad thing ? Maybe, if taken to the extreme of Top 15 University or bust, but overall it is an admirable goal.

But fact is, except for those few, LIFG kids at the T25s, most kids at T15-25 would achieve the same thing if they attended their local state U ranked 80th. They already have the family connections, work ethic, family support/financial support to be innovators and change the world if they want. Going to a T15 does not lift them up that much. So the issue is that you start instilling in your kid at a young age, that going to a T15 means "a better life", when that's not really true. Causes stress and might stifle the kid's true intentions

What does "LIFG" mean ?

Also, I think that you may have misunderstood my post that you quoted as we are in agreement.

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Rich White people really go the furthest with the obsession

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Varsity_Blues_scandal

https://www.insider.com/college-admissions-scandal-full-list-people-sentenced-2019-9#parent-homayoun-zadeh-was-sentenced-to-6-weeks-in-prison-33

They want to maintain the ALDC cartel

Almost half of White studetns at Harvard is ALDC

Anonymous wrote:I attended UMD. My two other colleagues attended Stanford and UPenn. All three of us have to report to a boss who attended Berklee School of Music and he makes three times, around 900K, more than we do.

Anonymous wrote:I attended UMD. My two other colleagues attended Stanford and UPenn. All three of us have to report to a boss who attended Berklee School of Music and he makes three times, around 900K, more than we do.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP: At the base level, it is really about wanting a better life for one's kids.

Is that a bad thing ? Maybe, if taken to the extreme of Top 15 University or bust, but overall it is an admirable goal.

But fact is, except for those few, LIFG kids at the T25s, most kids at T15-25 would achieve the same thing if they attended their local state U ranked 80th. They already have the family connections, work ethic, family support/financial support to be innovators and change the world if they want. Going to a T15 does not lift them up that much. So the issue is that you start instilling in your kid at a young age, that going to a T15 means "a better life", when that's not really true. Causes stress and might stifle the kid's true intentions

What does "LIFG" mean ?

Also, I think that you may have misunderstood my post that you quoted as we are in agreement.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP: At the base level, it is really about wanting a better life for one's kids.

Is that a bad thing ? Maybe, if taken to the extreme of Top 15 University or bust, but overall it is an admirable goal.

But fact is, except for those few, LIFG kids at the T25s, most kids at T15-25 would achieve the same thing if they attended their local state U ranked 80th. They already have the family connections, work ethic, family support/financial support to be innovators and change the world if they want. Going to a T15 does not lift them up that much. So the issue is that you start instilling in your kid at a young age, that going to a T15 means "a better life", when that's not really true. Causes stress and might stifle the kid's true intentions

Anonymous wrote:OP: At the base level, it is really about wanting a better life for one's kids.

Is that a bad thing ? Maybe, if taken to the extreme of Top 15 University or bust, but overall it is an admirable goal.

Anonymous wrote:Maybe because there are posts that are basically the same as yours two or three times per week? You realize you are feeding the obsession, yes?

That said, I will take a crack. My own view is that because the incredible, outsized outcomes seem to be clustered in elite schools. If you look at the ranks of billionaire hedge fund, P/E, start-up founders, etc., it is shocking how it is clustered in just like 10 schools. Of course, not everyone graduated...but just look at the current thread on Open AI the current hottest tech start-up...Stanford drop-out, Harvard drop-out and Duke graduate. Look at the people/founders getting all the press currently...Musk from Penn, Zuckerberg from Harvard, Bezos from Princeton, etc. The amount of VC that flows to graduates of the top 10 schools is like 20x the amount flowing to all the other schools combined.

It is no different than if you are an athlete hoping to make it to the Pros. If you want to play pro football, sure you might get drafted out of North Dakota State, but the number of players drafted out of Alabama guarantees that every pro team is always paying attention to Alabama...while they only pay attention to North Dakota State because one player (Carson Wentz as an example) emerges to generate some buzz.

There will always be the folks arguing that Bezos would still have founded Amazon even if he had gone to the University of New Mexico...but of course he didn't and that is just theoretical. Yes, 98% of the graduates from Ivy League schools will go on to lead normal, decent lives...and some may fail miserably. But everyone thinks they can be in the 2% that succeed beyond anyone's wildest imagination.