Anonymous
Post 06/14/2023 09:32     Subject: SOLs
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why are people talking about percentile with SOL? I have never seen percentiles given - only scores. Am I misremembering?


The PP said their DC got 99% on other tests like iReady and Cogat, so they are concerned about the percentile that correlates to the SOL score (514). I guess they think their DC should be getting close to the max (600) if they typically get 99% on tests. All I can say is that all of those tests are different and may have different scoring scales.


I wondered if the kid was in 5th and if it was their first time skipping a grade in the math SOL.
Anonymous
Post 06/14/2023 09:22     Subject: SOLs
Anonymous wrote:Why are people talking about percentile with SOL? I have never seen percentiles given - only scores. Am I misremembering?


The PP said their DC got 99% on other tests like iReady and Cogat, so they are concerned about the percentile that correlates to the SOL score (514). I guess they think their DC should be getting close to the max (600) if they typically get 99% on tests. All I can say is that all of those tests are different and may have different scoring scales.
Anonymous
Post 06/14/2023 08:32     Subject: SOLs
Anonymous wrote:Anyone able to give a rough idea of what a 514 in math would be percentile wise? Little concerned that a 99th percentile iready and COGAT kid with math as biggest strength would get that.


What grade is your kid in?
Anonymous
Post 06/14/2023 08:31     Subject: SOLs
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Ah, so different test is used then to determine Alg placement in 7th and we care about percentiles for that one?


That is the IAAT, the Iowa test. For that one the score is given in percentiles.


For algebra 1 placement in 7th I believe you need above 90th percentile on the IATT and advanced pass on the math 7 sol.
Anonymous
Post 06/14/2023 08:29     Subject: Re:SOLs
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The scores are up. Does anyone know how to determine percentiles?

There is a Reston-based entrepreneur who must have FOIA'd the full set of SOL statistics, computed the percentiles and is offering them for sale one score at a time if you subscribe to their service: https://www.peerpowerinc.com/ I haven't used their service so can't comment on whether or how well it works, but I thought I share this pointer.


Except the score distributions (how many students got a particular score) change (and can change significantly) year to year. You can look at the SOL score distribution by fail/pass/pass advanced for previous years across the state, by school system, by individual school using this tool: https://p1pe.doe.virginia.gov/apex_captcha/home.do?apexTypeId=306. If you run historical data, you will see that the % of students at each level changes.

I don't know about the timeliness or time period of that commercial offering's underlying data, but the VDoE database isn't updated until August to my knowledge.
Anonymous
Post 06/14/2023 08:27     Subject: SOLs
Anonymous wrote:Ah, so different test is used then to determine Alg placement in 7th and we care about percentiles for that one?


That is the IAAT, the Iowa test. For that one the score is given in percentiles.
Anonymous
Post 06/14/2023 08:20     Subject: Re:SOLs
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The scores are up. Does anyone know how to determine percentiles?

There is a Reston-based entrepreneur who must have FOIA'd the full set of SOL statistics, computed the percentiles and is offering them for sale one score at a time if you subscribe to their service: https://www.peerpowerinc.com/ I haven't used their service so can't comment on whether or how well it works, but I thought I share this pointer.


Except the score distributions (how many students got a particular score) change (and can change significantly) year to year. You can look at the SOL score distribution by fail/pass/pass advanced for previous years across the state, by school system, by individual school using this tool: https://p1pe.doe.virginia.gov/apex_captcha/home.do?apexTypeId=306. If you run historical data, you will see that the % of students at each level changes.
Anonymous
Post 06/14/2023 08:19     Subject: SOLs
Ah, so different test is used then to determine Alg placement in 7th and we care about percentiles for that one?
Anonymous
Post 06/14/2023 08:10     Subject: Re:SOLs
Anonymous wrote:The scores are up. Does anyone know how to determine percentiles?

There is a Reston-based entrepreneur who must have FOIA'd the full set of SOL statistics, computed the percentiles and is offering them for sale one score at a time if you subscribe to their service: https://www.peerpowerinc.com/ I haven't used their service so can't comment on whether or how well it works, but I thought I share this pointer.
Anonymous
Post 06/14/2023 08:08     Subject: SOLs
Anonymous wrote:Anyone able to give a rough idea of what a 514 in math would be percentile wise? Little concerned that a 99th percentile iready and COGAT kid with math as biggest strength would get that.


There are no percentiles like you're asking.
Anonymous
Post 06/14/2023 08:06     Subject: SOLs
Anonymous wrote:Why are people talking about percentile with SOL? I have never seen percentiles given - only scores. Am I misremembering?


Me again. Fail / Pass / Advanced Pass is all I remember.

Fail = below 400.
Pass = 400-499
Pass advanced = 500-600.
Anonymous
Post 06/14/2023 08:05     Subject: SOLs
Why are people talking about percentile with SOL? I have never seen percentiles given - only scores. Am I misremembering?
Anonymous
Post 06/14/2023 08:04     Subject: SOLs
Anonymous wrote:Anyone able to give a rough idea of what a 514 in math would be percentile wise? Little concerned that a 99th percentile iready and COGAT kid with math as biggest strength would get that.


A 514 is Pass Advanced.
Anonymous
Post 06/14/2023 08:01     Subject: SOLs
Anyone able to give a rough idea of what a 514 in math would be percentile wise? Little concerned that a 99th percentile iready and COGAT kid with math as biggest strength would get that.
Anonymous
Post 06/14/2023 07:41     Subject: SOLs
I just looked and SOL scores are up for my ES child, too. Second year in a row that they failed the math SOL. We were not offered summer school, no one has ever mentioned the need for math remediation to us. Thanks, elementary school!!

Guess we'll be looking for a math program this summer.