Anonymous
06/12/2023 10:52
Subject: A/C in Mexico City
Anonymous wrote:About AirBnB:
Most travelers are going to stay in Condesa, Roma, Centro, maybe Tabacalera/Cuauhtémoc/Juárez, and Coyoacán.
"Typical" Mexicans haven't been able to afford Condesa for many years -- probably 15-20 years. (And it was actually built for the upper middle class a century ago.) Roma has been unaffordable for probably 10-15 years.
I would think you're not displacing working class people from Condesa by staying in AirBnBs. You're displacing a different demographic -- youngish Mexicans who are professionals and enjoy the same things digital nomads do -- restaurants, yoga studios, tree-lined streets, etc.
I'm thinking out loud here: It seems like it could be worse for local middle and working class people if travelers stay in AirBnBs in neighborhoods like Doctores, Obrera, Portales, Del Valle, Narvarte, Centro, etc. Those are the kinds of centrally located neighborhoods where middle class locals still live.
Hmm.
This. You're not displacing working class Mx from Roma, Polanco or Condesa.
OP, you do you. When I travel with family, I always get Airbnb. If I travel alone, I'd get a hotel.
Anonymous
06/12/2023 10:38
Subject: A/C in Mexico City
Anonymous wrote:If your family friend owns an apartment to rent out then they are doing better than most Mexicans. Air bnbs are not owned by working class Mexicans. They are owned as investment properties by the upper class. Of course they don't resent it. They are profiting.
There is a plethora of information on the internet about how the digital nomad situation in Mexico City is affecting the working and middle class in certain neighborhoods. People who have lived in those communities for decades are forced to move because they can't afford the rising rents. This also applies to business owners. They get pushed out for yoga studios and coffee shops.
In the spring we visited our family. Our old neighborhood is filled with gringos. So much is in English. The character and charm of that beautiful city is changing. That is what the locals are upset about.
Just stay at hotels. I don't see the problem.
It’s not your business to police what others do. If you care so much about Mexico why didn’t you stay there to improve the place?
Anonymous
06/11/2023 22:36
Subject: A/C in Mexico City
About AirBnB:
Most travelers are going to stay in Condesa, Roma, Centro, maybe Tabacalera/Cuauhtémoc/Juárez, and Coyoacán.
"Typical" Mexicans haven't been able to afford Condesa for many years -- probably 15-20 years. (And it was actually built for the upper middle class a century ago.) Roma has been unaffordable for probably 10-15 years.
I would think you're not displacing working class people from Condesa by staying in AirBnBs. You're displacing a different demographic -- youngish Mexicans who are professionals and enjoy the same things digital nomads do -- restaurants, yoga studios, tree-lined streets, etc.
I'm thinking out loud here: It seems like it could be worse for local middle and working class people if travelers stay in AirBnBs in neighborhoods like Doctores, Obrera, Portales, Del Valle, Narvarte, Centro, etc. Those are the kinds of centrally located neighborhoods where middle class locals still live.
Hmm.
Most travelers are going to stay in Condesa, Roma, Centro, maybe Tabacalera/Cuauhtémoc/Juárez, and Coyoacán.
"Typical" Mexicans haven't been able to afford Condesa for many years -- probably 15-20 years. (And it was actually built for the upper middle class a century ago.) Roma has been unaffordable for probably 10-15 years.
I would think you're not displacing working class people from Condesa by staying in AirBnBs. You're displacing a different demographic -- youngish Mexicans who are professionals and enjoy the same things digital nomads do -- restaurants, yoga studios, tree-lined streets, etc.
I'm thinking out loud here: It seems like it could be worse for local middle and working class people if travelers stay in AirBnBs in neighborhoods like Doctores, Obrera, Portales, Del Valle, Narvarte, Centro, etc. Those are the kinds of centrally located neighborhoods where middle class locals still live.
Hmm.
Anonymous
06/11/2023 22:11
Subject: A/C in Mexico City
Anonymous wrote:So back to the actual question, any more input on September climate?
I lived there for five years. Homes do not have A/C or any HVAC there. (High rise apartments might.) And it gets down to almost freezing in the winter.
Office buildings have A/C splits. Restaurants in Mexico City are mostly open-air. Even if you're inside a (nice) restaurant, they'll often have big patio doors wide open from opening to closing.
September is in the middle of rainy season (though it only rains at night), so it can be cool but still a humid because of the rain.
I'd ask if the AirBnB has a fan available in case it gets stuffy. Ceiling fans are uncommon, but people may have table fans or oscillating fans. If they don't have fans, I wouldn't worry about it.
There aren't too many mosquitos in Mexico City so you may be able to sleep with the windows open, depending on how high you are.
Anonymous
06/11/2023 19:24
Subject: A/C in Mexico City
Anonymous wrote:Lisbon is a city with the same issues as Mexico City. Rents have skyrocket so that locals can't afford to live there. I know Berlin has taken steps to mitigate the problem.
Some governments are notoriously corrupt and only care about pocketing money.
I mean. Just be a decent human
If you are travelling g to certain places just stay in a hotel. Why would you want to contribute to hardships for people.
NP. Are you from the hotel board or something? You don’t seem to understand the seriousness of the issues with hotels on the exact same issue. AirBnb isn’t any more of a problem than the hotels are.
Anonymous
06/11/2023 19:16
Subject: A/C in Mexico City
So back to the actual question, any more input on September climate?
Anonymous
06/11/2023 19:08
Subject: A/C in Mexico City
Lisbon is a city with the same issues as Mexico City. Rents have skyrocket so that locals can't afford to live there. I know Berlin has taken steps to mitigate the problem.
Some governments are notoriously corrupt and only care about pocketing money.
I mean. Just be a decent human
If you are travelling g to certain places just stay in a hotel. Why would you want to contribute to hardships for people.
Some governments are notoriously corrupt and only care about pocketing money.
I mean. Just be a decent human
If you are travelling g to certain places just stay in a hotel. Why would you want to contribute to hardships for people.
Anonymous
06/11/2023 17:16
Subject: A/C in Mexico City
Anonymous wrote:If your family friend owns an apartment to rent out then they are doing better than most Mexicans. Air bnbs are not owned by working class Mexicans. They are owned as investment properties by the upper class. Of course they don't resent it. They are profiting.
There is a plethora of information on the internet about how the digital nomad situation in Mexico City is affecting the working and middle class in certain neighborhoods. People who have lived in those communities for decades are forced to move because they can't afford the rising rents. This also applies to business owners. They get pushed out for yoga studios and coffee shops.
In the spring we visited our family. Our old neighborhood is filled with gringos. So much is in English. The character and charm of that beautiful city is changing. That is what the locals are upset about.
Just stay at hotels. I don't see the problem.
It is not that simple. I booked 2 hotels when we were in Liston. When we showed up, it was clear that both were apartment buildings converted into hotels.
The local government needs to regulate the housing market if it really cares for its residents.