Anonymous
Post 06/05/2023 11:08     Subject: When are the restaurant tables that are on the street...
Anonymous wrote:I like the streeteries, don't care about your parking problems



Ok, well less parking means fewer customers for restaurants. We’ve found ourselves increasingly going over the border to the suburbs because it’s less hassle. Not good for anyone who runs a business in DC
Anonymous
Post 06/05/2023 11:05     Subject: Re:When are the restaurant tables that are on the street...
They seem incredibly unsanitary. They are practically designed to attract rats
Anonymous
Post 06/05/2023 10:34     Subject: When are the restaurant tables that are on the street...
I like the streeteries, don't care about your parking problems
Anonymous
Post 06/05/2023 10:12     Subject: When are the restaurant tables that are on the street...
Outdoor dining here is a joke. It's seasonal and puts you on a roadway next to moving cars or on a sidewalk next to moving pedestrians. Nothing pleasurable or scenic about it. Go to California where restaurants are built to accommodate outdoor dining. Then come back here and realize how awful the DC "al fresco" dining experience truly is.

Anonymous
Post 06/05/2023 09:56     Subject: When are the restaurant tables that are on the street...
Anonymous wrote:I will not sit at a table on the street, but we still only go to restaurants with outdoor dining.


Honestly this says more about your anxiety levels than Covid…
Anonymous
Post 06/05/2023 07:17     Subject: When are the restaurant tables that are on the street...
I like outdoor dining and don’t care about losing parking lanes. In a dense city with lots of public transportation, the idea that we need to preserve these single street parking spaces over other uses is absurd. The fact that 10 people can enjoy a sit down meal in a single parking space is a great representation of how wasteful parking is in a space-limited city. The city also makes more in taxes off those diners than it does of the parked car, while also supporting employment for several people.

All that said, what really needs to happen is expanding sidewalks so that outdoor dining can be next to the restaurant and not out in the street. Streeteries are temporary structures built, literally, in the gutter. We should be expanding sidewalks into the parking lane and encouraging restaurants to create more permanent (and nicer looking) outdoor dining.
Anonymous
Post 06/05/2023 06:42     Subject: When are the restaurant tables that are on the street...
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Don't eat at restaurants that have street dining if you don't want to, but no, don't ruin it for the rest of us. You are one person, you have a choice to how and where you dine, you are just here to be obnoxious or troll.


You’re just one person as well, and the name calling suggests you struggle with people whose opinions differ from yours. That’s unfortunate.


Do a poll, the people of this city aren't with you on this one. Good luck.


Dp. I don’t think it’s as black and white as either of you are making it out to be. I’m supportive of streateries that take up parking spots. Not supportive of streateries that encroach on driving lanes on very busy roads.
Anonymous
Post 06/05/2023 05:55     Subject: When are the restaurant tables that are on the street...
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Don't eat at restaurants that have street dining if you don't want to, but no, don't ruin it for the rest of us. You are one person, you have a choice to how and where you dine, you are just here to be obnoxious or troll.


You’re just one person as well, and the name calling suggests you struggle with people whose opinions differ from yours. That’s unfortunate.


Do a poll, the people of this city aren't with you on this one. Good luck.
Anonymous
Post 06/05/2023 05:50     Subject: When are the restaurant tables that are on the street...
Anonymous wrote:Don't eat at restaurants that have street dining if you don't want to, but no, don't ruin it for the rest of us. You are one person, you have a choice to how and where you dine, you are just here to be obnoxious or troll.


You’re just one person as well, and the name calling suggests you struggle with people whose opinions differ from yours. That’s unfortunate.
Anonymous
Post 06/04/2023 23:50     Subject: When are the restaurant tables that are on the street...
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:and causing a lane to be closed going to be removed ??? They came about because of Covid, but now seem to have outlived their usefulness.

I never saw the attraction of eating in a closed lane on the street and inhaling vehicle fumes and loud automobile sounds while dining... not to mention being in a position where a car could kill me.



People enjoy eating outdoors. The change in AdMo from the lane closures and ample extra seating has been great and I hope it is preserved that way indefinitely. I'm Eddie Cano and Rosemary Bistro have a pretty cool setup too.


No, this particular setup is an abomination and dangerous to boot. The concrete barriers starting 1/3 of the way up the block and the covers they have for the seating are so ugly. They also force traffic into fewer lanes just past a major intersection, causing backups and/or people racing through the intersection to get ahead of cars merging in. I ate in the Rosemary Bistro tent there one time and gulped my meal down as quickly as I could because it felt so unsafe. I love eating outdoors and love the concept of streateries, but if we're going to have them, they should not be taking up a lane on a major thoroughfare and there should be at least some aesthetic design standards. Having outdoor dining in the Cleveland Park service lane makes sense if the service lane is closed or allowing restaurants to set up on sidewalks, if there is enough clearance, but randomly taking up a lane on Connecticut should not be allowed.


I've been wondering for the last year+ who these 2 business owners had to bloe in order receive the unique-in-that-area privilege of shutting down a lane _just_for_them_and_no_other_business.

It's time to go.
Anonymous
Post 06/04/2023 22:08     Subject: When are the restaurant tables that are on the street...
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:and causing a lane to be closed going to be removed ??? They came about because of Covid, but now seem to have outlived their usefulness.

I never saw the attraction of eating in a closed lane on the street and inhaling vehicle fumes and loud automobile sounds while dining... not to mention being in a position where a car could kill me.



People enjoy eating outdoors. The change in AdMo from the lane closures and ample extra seating has been great and I hope it is preserved that way indefinitely. I'm Eddie Cano and Rosemary Bistro have a pretty cool setup too.


Too bad they'll soon be losing them to build bike lanes.


Can always take another lane off Conn Ave there.
Anonymous
Post 06/04/2023 22:03     Subject: When are the restaurant tables that are on the street...
Anonymous wrote:and causing a lane to be closed going to be removed ??? They came about because of Covid, but now seem to have outlived their usefulness.

I never saw the attraction of eating in a closed lane on the street and inhaling vehicle fumes and loud automobile sounds while dining... not to mention being in a position where a car could kill me.



The attraction is, it's much easier to get a table because the restaurant effectively has doubled the size of its dining area. And eating outside is nice, even if you're near cars. Just because you don't like it isn't a good reason to abolish them for those of us who don't mind some of the downsides.
Anonymous
Post 06/04/2023 15:10     Subject: When are the restaurant tables that are on the street...
I like eating outside. Restaurants with outdoor seating make more money.
Anonymous
Post 06/04/2023 13:49     Subject: When are the restaurant tables that are on the street...
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:and causing a lane to be closed going to be removed ??? They came about because of Covid, but now seem to have outlived their usefulness.

I never saw the attraction of eating in a closed lane on the street and inhaling vehicle fumes and loud automobile sounds while dining... not to mention being in a position where a car could kill me.



People enjoy eating outdoors. The change in AdMo from the lane closures and ample extra seating has been great and I hope it is preserved that way indefinitely. I'm Eddie Cano and Rosemary Bistro have a pretty cool setup too.


No, this particular setup is an abomination and dangerous to boot. The concrete barriers starting 1/3 of the way up the block and the covers they have for the seating are so ugly. They also force traffic into fewer lanes just past a major intersection, causing backups and/or people racing through the intersection to get ahead of cars merging in. I ate in the Rosemary Bistro tent there one time and gulped my meal down as quickly as I could because it felt so unsafe. I love eating outdoors and love the concept of streateries, but if we're going to have them, they should not be taking up a lane on a major thoroughfare and there should be at least some aesthetic design standards. Having outdoor dining in the Cleveland Park service lane makes sense if the service lane is closed or allowing restaurants to set up on sidewalks, if there is enough clearance, but randomly taking up a lane on Connecticut should not be allowed.
Anonymous
Post 06/04/2023 13:38     Subject: When are the restaurant tables that are on the street...
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:and causing a lane to be closed going to be removed ??? They came about because of Covid, but now seem to have outlived their usefulness.

I never saw the attraction of eating in a closed lane on the street and inhaling vehicle fumes and loud automobile sounds while dining... not to mention being in a position where a car could kill me.



People enjoy eating outdoors. The change in AdMo from the lane closures and ample extra seating has been great and I hope it is preserved that way indefinitely. I'm Eddie Cano and Rosemary Bistro have a pretty cool setup too.


Too bad they'll soon be losing them to build bike lanes.