Anonymous
06/06/2023 10:19
Subject: Math and ELA placements in 4th grade
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My DC was placed in CM - winter MAP was 205 (haven’t gotten spring yet).
So it seems 75th percentile is the cut off?
My sense is schools have some leeway. If, say, the school has 15 kids who fit the traditional 85th percentile cut-off, they can choose 10/12 more who may show various other markers for success in CM and add them to the class. My son is wrapping up 5/6 and there were definitely kids added because of "parental advocacy" throughout the years, so I don't think the county controls this as much as they'd like to convey.
205 poster - no advocacy on our part, and I was surprised DS made it in. One factor might have been that the winter MAP was the lowest percentile-wise he had done so far (extenuating circumstances the week of the test might have contributed to that), and he seems to grasp the concepts quickly (but makes sloppy mistakes because he rushes thru his work). Likely enough kids at his school to fill a class based on the 85th percentile, but who knows…
That is true. We can guess but no one knows what the cutoff is
DP. The letter we received about CM says they used various data points, not just MAP. So it’s probably not the dealbreaker or maker.
Was the letter from the school or central MCPS?
Anonymous
06/06/2023 09:25
Subject: Math and ELA placements in 4th grade
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My DC was placed in CM - winter MAP was 205 (haven’t gotten spring yet).
So it seems 75th percentile is the cut off?
My sense is schools have some leeway. If, say, the school has 15 kids who fit the traditional 85th percentile cut-off, they can choose 10/12 more who may show various other markers for success in CM and add them to the class. My son is wrapping up 5/6 and there were definitely kids added because of "parental advocacy" throughout the years, so I don't think the county controls this as much as they'd like to convey.
205 poster - no advocacy on our part, and I was surprised DS made it in. One factor might have been that the winter MAP was the lowest percentile-wise he had done so far (extenuating circumstances the week of the test might have contributed to that), and he seems to grasp the concepts quickly (but makes sloppy mistakes because he rushes thru his work). Likely enough kids at his school to fill a class based on the 85th percentile, but who knows…
That is true. We can guess but no one knows what the cutoff is
DP. The letter we received about CM says they used various data points, not just MAP. So it’s probably not the dealbreaker or maker.
That’s what they say but it seems that map test is the major data point.
Anonymous
06/06/2023 09:17
Subject: Math and ELA placements in 4th grade
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My DC was placed in CM - winter MAP was 205 (haven’t gotten spring yet).
So it seems 75th percentile is the cut off?
My sense is schools have some leeway. If, say, the school has 15 kids who fit the traditional 85th percentile cut-off, they can choose 10/12 more who may show various other markers for success in CM and add them to the class. My son is wrapping up 5/6 and there were definitely kids added because of "parental advocacy" throughout the years, so I don't think the county controls this as much as they'd like to convey.
205 poster - no advocacy on our part, and I was surprised DS made it in. One factor might have been that the winter MAP was the lowest percentile-wise he had done so far (extenuating circumstances the week of the test might have contributed to that), and he seems to grasp the concepts quickly (but makes sloppy mistakes because he rushes thru his work). Likely enough kids at his school to fill a class based on the 85th percentile, but who knows…
That is true. We can guess but no one knows what the cutoff is
DP. The letter we received about CM says they used various data points, not just MAP. So it’s probably not the dealbreaker or maker.
Anonymous
06/06/2023 07:12
Subject: Math and ELA placements in 4th grade
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My DC was placed in CM - winter MAP was 205 (haven’t gotten spring yet).
So it seems 75th percentile is the cut off?
My sense is schools have some leeway. If, say, the school has 15 kids who fit the traditional 85th percentile cut-off, they can choose 10/12 more who may show various other markers for success in CM and add them to the class. My son is wrapping up 5/6 and there were definitely kids added because of "parental advocacy" throughout the years, so I don't think the county controls this as much as they'd like to convey.
205 poster - no advocacy on our part, and I was surprised DS made it in. One factor might have been that the winter MAP was the lowest percentile-wise he had done so far (extenuating circumstances the week of the test might have contributed to that), and he seems to grasp the concepts quickly (but makes sloppy mistakes because he rushes thru his work). Likely enough kids at his school to fill a class based on the 85th percentile, but who knows…
That is true. We can guess but no one knows what the cutoff is
Anonymous
06/05/2023 20:30
Subject: Math and ELA placements in 4th grade
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My DC was placed in CM - winter MAP was 205 (haven’t gotten spring yet).
So it seems 75th percentile is the cut off?
My sense is schools have some leeway. If, say, the school has 15 kids who fit the traditional 85th percentile cut-off, they can choose 10/12 more who may show various other markers for success in CM and add them to the class. My son is wrapping up 5/6 and there were definitely kids added because of "parental advocacy" throughout the years, so I don't think the county controls this as much as they'd like to convey.
205 poster - no advocacy on our part, and I was surprised DS made it in. One factor might have been that the winter MAP was the lowest percentile-wise he had done so far (extenuating circumstances the week of the test might have contributed to that), and he seems to grasp the concepts quickly (but makes sloppy mistakes because he rushes thru his work). Likely enough kids at his school to fill a class based on the 85th percentile, but who knows…
Anonymous
06/05/2023 19:39
Subject: Math and ELA placements in 4th grade
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My DC was placed in CM - winter MAP was 205 (haven’t gotten spring yet).
So it seems 75th percentile is the cut off?
My sense is schools have some leeway. If, say, the school has 15 kids who fit the traditional 85th percentile cut-off, they can choose 10/12 more who may show various other markers for success in CM and add them to the class. My son is wrapping up 5/6 and there were definitely kids added because of "parental advocacy" throughout the years, so I don't think the county controls this as much as they'd like to convey.
Anonymous
06/05/2023 19:31
Subject: Math and ELA placements in 4th grade
Anonymous wrote:My DC was placed in CM - winter MAP was 205 (haven’t gotten spring yet).
So it seems 75th percentile is the cut off?
Anonymous
06/05/2023 17:37
Subject: Math and ELA placements in 4th grade
My daughter got CM, winter MAP was 216.
Anonymous
06/05/2023 17:01
Subject: Re:Math and ELA placements in 4th grade
My DC was placed in ELC, was NOT in the CES pool. Spring MAP R was 222.
Anonymous
06/05/2023 16:25
Subject: Math and ELA placements in 4th grade
My DC was placed in CM - winter MAP was 205 (haven’t gotten spring yet).
Anonymous
06/02/2023 14:58
Subject: Math and ELA placements in 4th grade
OP here- found out my DC math placement. He got CM, Spring MAP was 222. Hopefully if will help other parents figure this out.
Anonymous
06/01/2023 22:05
Subject: Math and ELA placements in 4th grade
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I think 95th percentile is generally a good gauge of being admitted into ELC and CM. Anything below, it would depend on the individual home school (space available, local norms). But check with your school about their specific criteria.
Do you think that 94 or 93 is definitely a no for ELC or CM?
DO and not at all - in our school the cutoff is around the 80th percentile. And some schools offer ELC to all.
This is a problem. Not that ELC is offered to all at some schools, but that it isn't offered to all at others (or that they err on the side of exclusion instead of inclusion when making their cuts/cohorts).
Anonymous
06/01/2023 21:51
Subject: Math and ELA placements in 4th grade
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I think 95th percentile is generally a good gauge of being admitted into ELC and CM. Anything below, it would depend on the individual home school (space available, local norms). But check with your school about their specific criteria.
Do you think that 94 or 93 is definitely a no for ELC or CM?
DO and not at all - in our school the cutoff is around the 80th percentile. And some schools offer ELC to all.
Oops meant DP
Anonymous
06/01/2023 21:50
Subject: Math and ELA placements in 4th grade
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I think 95th percentile is generally a good gauge of being admitted into ELC and CM. Anything below, it would depend on the individual home school (space available, local norms). But check with your school about their specific criteria.
Do you think that 94 or 93 is definitely a no for ELC or CM?
DO and not at all - in our school the cutoff is around the 80th percentile. And some schools offer ELC to all.
Anonymous
06/01/2023 21:39
Subject: Math and ELA placements in 4th grade
Anonymous wrote:I think 95th percentile is generally a good gauge of being admitted into ELC and CM. Anything below, it would depend on the individual home school (space available, local norms). But check with your school about their specific criteria.
Do you think that 94 or 93 is definitely a no for ELC or CM?