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Anonymous wrote:What school district? My kid is in APS, and I’ve never heard any reference to honor roll. If there is one they keep it quiet and don’t publicize it - my kid with an IEP wouldn’t be on it, as he’s never made all As.

My kid is in MS in APS and has been on honor roll every quarter. It’s all As and Bs. They get a certificate sent home, usually stays in their backpack lol.

PP again. Maybe they don’t do it at every MS as my kid did get all As and Bs most quarters and never got a certificate.

My kid has had all As every quarter and has never received anything or had it mentioned in any way. I don’t really care, but I have wondered if all As is just “standard” for APS middle schoolers. With the discouragement of conferences for kids who are “doing fine” I know it appears my kid is doing well, but that’s the extent of it.

It matters because it indicates how the school wishes to distribute grades. Not everything is about WHAT grade the individual student earned. Overall grade distribution matters.

It might vary, year to year, slightly, based on the strength of the class but the grade distribution probably doesn't vary much.

And yes it should be published. In an ideal world.

McCrazy is this you?

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Anonymous wrote:You are going to FOIA the honor roll? Why?

They also refuse to release class standings and grade averages.

It’s MS. Why do you care?

And presumably public. Everyone knows it means nothing.

Well, no, lots of people still think that As are real. And sometimes they are! But in a middle school where, per the poster, a whopping 27% of students had all As it at the very least lets the parent of a student with Bs and Cs know that, in fact, he's not average, but is doing quite poorly, and allows them a chance to address that.

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Anonymous wrote:Most kids make honor roll

OP here. I received a response to my FOIA request, and it turns out that most kids did not make the (all) A honor roll.
Only 27% did in the grade level I asked about.

So glad you wasted someone’s time for that meaningless information.

As you should be. It is important that public employees follow the law. It is concerning when they believe they don't have to and substitute their own judgement.

Beyond that, students - even all A students - have a right to know their rank. This should be basic ethics.

There’s a law that schools need to publish honor roll numbers?

Indeed. It's called the Virginia Freedom of Information act. It states that all government activity shall be public, except for narrowly constructed exceptions, and summary achievement data is not exempted. It is a great historical achievement - many other countries do not have comparable laws on the books. You should take a Civics course at your local CC to learn about it.

School administrators are expected to have a working knowledge of the law and apply it.

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Anonymous wrote:Most kids make honor roll

OP here. I received a response to my FOIA request, and it turns out that most kids did not make the (all) A honor roll.
Only 27% did in the grade level I asked about.

So glad you wasted someone’s time for that meaningless information.

As you should be. It is important that public employees follow the law. It is concerning when they believe they don't have to and substitute their own judgement.

Beyond that, students - even all A students - have a right to know their rank. This should be basic ethics.

There’s a law that schools need to publish honor roll numbers?

Anonymous wrote:As you should be. It is important that public employees follow the law. It is concerning when they believe they don't have to and substitute their own judgement.

I'm all for public employees following the law but other than not responding to an FOIA (and that doesn't even necessarily mean answering 'the question') -- which it sounds like they did -- what other 'law' was broken? Not publishing the whos, hows, or how-manys of honor roll? Really? For middle school?

Beyond that, students - even all A students - have a right to know their rank. This should be basic ethics.

(my emphasis)

I used to think that. And still maybe do....for that student. But to have "rank" blasted out just seems so meh these days. When straight-A students don't break the top 50 (say of a class of 500) because of weighting, it almost becomes meaningless. And before someone screams that a 4+ indicates rigor, just know not every school offers an endless list of weighted classes, nor is every student eligible for them (sometimes because of long-ago tracking decisions or lack of nascent recommendations). When even your PE class is weighted (like for our local IB programme), that borders on ridiculous.

All this reminds me of a favored joke from the past that I'd tell young people I was mentoring on the hiring process:

A young person is interviewing for a job. Interviewer asks what their rank is. And the answer: I am one of those that make the Top 50% possible!

Turn lemon into lemonade.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Most kids make honor roll

OP here. I received a response to my FOIA request, and it turns out that most kids did not make the (all) A honor roll.
Only 27% did in the grade level I asked about.

So glad you wasted someone’s time for that meaningless information.

As you should be. It is important that public employees follow the law. It is concerning when they believe they don't have to and substitute their own judgement.

Beyond that, students - even all A students - have a right to know their rank. This should be basic ethics.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Most kids make honor roll

OP here. I received a response to my FOIA request, and it turns out that most kids did not make the (all) A honor roll.
Only 27% did in the grade level I asked about.

So glad you wasted someone’s time for that meaningless information.

Anonymous wrote:Most kids make honor roll

OP here. I received a response to my FOIA request, and it turns out that most kids did not make the (all) A honor roll.
Only 27% did in the grade level I asked about.

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Anonymous wrote:What school district? My kid is in APS, and I’ve never heard any reference to honor roll. If there is one they keep it quiet and don’t publicize it - my kid with an IEP wouldn’t be on it, as he’s never made all As.

My kid is in MS in APS and has been on honor roll every quarter. It’s all As and Bs. They get a certificate sent home, usually stays in their backpack lol.

PP again. Maybe they don’t do it at every MS as my kid did get all As and Bs most quarters and never got a certificate.

WMS sends them out.

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Anonymous wrote:What school district? My kid is in APS, and I’ve never heard any reference to honor roll. If there is one they keep it quiet and don’t publicize it - my kid with an IEP wouldn’t be on it, as he’s never made all As.

My kid is in MS in APS and has been on honor roll every quarter. It’s all As and Bs. They get a certificate sent home, usually stays in their backpack lol.

PP again. Maybe they don’t do it at every MS as my kid did get all As and Bs most quarters and never got a certificate.

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They also refuse to release class standings and grade averages.

It's middle school - it doesn't matter. Why do you care?

My sixth grader's dean included a list of names in a weekly email. My eighth grader's dean did not.

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Anonymous wrote:What school district? My kid is in APS, and I’ve never heard any reference to honor roll. If there is one they keep it quiet and don’t publicize it - my kid with an IEP wouldn’t be on it, as he’s never made all As.

My kid is in MS in APS and has been on honor roll every quarter. It’s all As and Bs. They get a certificate sent home, usually stays in their backpack lol.

Sometimes this happens, sometimes it doesn't. MS and HS have both been inconsistent in acknowledging honor roll/principal's list. Sometimes the principal sends a letter congratulating the student (very late....like almost at the end of the 2nd quarter for 1st quarter acknowledgment); but then nothing the rest of the year. MS issued certificates at the end of the year; but nothing at HS so far.