Anonymous
05/31/2023 13:22
Subject: Re:Title 1 status APS
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Looks like Fleet is about to cross the threshold:
https://www.arlnow.com/2023/05/22/goodwill-and-ahc-propose-new-affordable-housing-new-store-and-child-care/
So, I think that means every single elementary school in South Arlington will be Title 1. I believe the only ES in North Arlington that is Title 1 is Barrett, and that’s practically across the street. So much segregation.
If you look at the current boundary map, it shows the Goodwill site as green for Barcroft. Not saying that’s good—just pointing it out.
Correct. The Goodwill site is in Alcova Heights, which is districted to Barcroft with the one exception of the recent Gilliam Place APAH project. APS did zone that building to Fleet, knowing Fleet was losing FRL students and Barcroft was 60%+ They could (and should) district that part of Alcova Heights to Fleet because it is a stone's throw away. They won't designate it within the walk zone because of Glebe; but for MS it is already in the walk zone (TJ being literally right next to Fleet).
If they rezone that corner to Fleet then they will have to rezone something away from Fleet. Fleet will reach capacity with Bank of America and Westmont apartment buildings, with no place to put trailers.
That corner is going to Fleet. It’s a mistake because it wasn’t residential before. Now that it will be, it will be zoned Fleet since it in the walk zone.
Much of Alcova is "walk zone" distance to Fleet; but it goes to Barcroft for two reasons: (1) to give Barcroft some MC/UMC and native English speaking peers; and (2) balancing enrollment between the two schools and Alcova "requiring" a bus either way due to George Mason for Barcroft or Glebe for Fleet.
My point is that this isn't a guarantee it will go to Fleet; but it absolutely should. Not just because of demographics; but also because this part of Alcova Heights is so disconnected from the more residential part of the neighborhood, it might as well go to the closer school (Fleet). The part of Alcova Heights north of the fire station at 5th street used to be part of the Arlington Heights civic association (where Fleet and TJ are) in the past anyway.
I meant it’s in the N of the fire station in that part of the neighborhood that is zoned to Fleet/walk zone. There’s a crosswalk right at that corner and with a crossing guard it would be ridiculous to put the kids on a bus to Barcroft instead, especially since it doesn’t help with demographic diversity or crowding to do that. Clearly it was an oversight during the last zoning process because who would have expected housing on that site, but now that there will be housing on that corner it should be corrected.
Anonymous
05/31/2023 12:47
Subject: Re:Title 1 status APS
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Looks like Fleet is about to cross the threshold:
https://www.arlnow.com/2023/05/22/goodwill-and-ahc-propose-new-affordable-housing-new-store-and-child-care/
So, I think that means every single elementary school in South Arlington will be Title 1. I believe the only ES in North Arlington that is Title 1 is Barrett, and that’s practically across the street. So much segregation.
If you look at the current boundary map, it shows the Goodwill site as green for Barcroft. Not saying that’s good—just pointing it out.
Correct. The Goodwill site is in Alcova Heights, which is districted to Barcroft with the one exception of the recent Gilliam Place APAH project. APS did zone that building to Fleet, knowing Fleet was losing FRL students and Barcroft was 60%+ They could (and should) district that part of Alcova Heights to Fleet because it is a stone's throw away. They won't designate it within the walk zone because of Glebe; but for MS it is already in the walk zone (TJ being literally right next to Fleet).
If they rezone that corner to Fleet then they will have to rezone something away from Fleet. Fleet will reach capacity with Bank of America and Westmont apartment buildings, with no place to put trailers.
That corner is going to Fleet. It’s a mistake because it wasn’t residential before. Now that it will be, it will be zoned Fleet since it in the walk zone.
Much of Alcova is "walk zone" distance to Fleet; but it goes to Barcroft for two reasons: (1) to give Barcroft some MC/UMC and native English speaking peers; and (2) balancing enrollment between the two schools and Alcova "requiring" a bus either way due to George Mason for Barcroft or Glebe for Fleet.
My point is that this isn't a guarantee it will go to Fleet; but it absolutely should. Not just because of demographics; but also because this part of Alcova Heights is so disconnected from the more residential part of the neighborhood, it might as well go to the closer school (Fleet). The part of Alcova Heights north of the fire station at 5th street used to be part of the Arlington Heights civic association (where Fleet and TJ are) in the past anyway.
Anonymous
05/31/2023 11:37
Subject: Re:Title 1 status APS
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Looks like Fleet is about to cross the threshold:
https://www.arlnow.com/2023/05/22/goodwill-and-ahc-propose-new-affordable-housing-new-store-and-child-care/
So, I think that means every single elementary school in South Arlington will be Title 1. I believe the only ES in North Arlington that is Title 1 is Barrett, and that’s practically across the street. So much segregation.
If you look at the current boundary map, it shows the Goodwill site as green for Barcroft. Not saying that’s good—just pointing it out.
Correct. The Goodwill site is in Alcova Heights, which is districted to Barcroft with the one exception of the recent Gilliam Place APAH project. APS did zone that building to Fleet, knowing Fleet was losing FRL students and Barcroft was 60%+ They could (and should) district that part of Alcova Heights to Fleet because it is a stone's throw away. They won't designate it within the walk zone because of Glebe; but for MS it is already in the walk zone (TJ being literally right next to Fleet).
If they rezone that corner to Fleet then they will have to rezone something away from Fleet. Fleet will reach capacity with Bank of America and Westmont apartment buildings, with no place to put trailers.
That corner is going to Fleet. It’s a mistake because it wasn’t residential before. Now that it will be, it will be zoned Fleet since it in the walk zone.
Anonymous
05/30/2023 18:40
Subject: Re:Title 1 status APS
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Looks like Fleet is about to cross the threshold:
https://www.arlnow.com/2023/05/22/goodwill-and-ahc-propose-new-affordable-housing-new-store-and-child-care/
So, I think that means every single elementary school in South Arlington will be Title 1. I believe the only ES in North Arlington that is Title 1 is Barrett, and that’s practically across the street. So much segregation.
If you look at the current boundary map, it shows the Goodwill site as green for Barcroft. Not saying that’s good—just pointing it out.
Correct. The Goodwill site is in Alcova Heights, which is districted to Barcroft with the one exception of the recent Gilliam Place APAH project. APS did zone that building to Fleet, knowing Fleet was losing FRL students and Barcroft was 60%+ They could (and should) district that part of Alcova Heights to Fleet because it is a stone's throw away. They won't designate it within the walk zone because of Glebe; but for MS it is already in the walk zone (TJ being literally right next to Fleet).
If they rezone that corner to Fleet then they will have to rezone something away from Fleet. Fleet will reach capacity with Bank of America and Westmont apartment buildings, with no place to put trailers.
If those buildings actually aren't affordable housing, they could be directed to Drew or Barcroft. win-win.
Anonymous
05/30/2023 16:46
Subject: Re:Title 1 status APS
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Looks like Fleet is about to cross the threshold:
https://www.arlnow.com/2023/05/22/goodwill-and-ahc-propose-new-affordable-housing-new-store-and-child-care/
So, I think that means every single elementary school in South Arlington will be Title 1. I believe the only ES in North Arlington that is Title 1 is Barrett, and that’s practically across the street. So much segregation.
If you look at the current boundary map, it shows the Goodwill site as green for Barcroft. Not saying that’s good—just pointing it out.
Correct. The Goodwill site is in Alcova Heights, which is districted to Barcroft with the one exception of the recent Gilliam Place APAH project. APS did zone that building to Fleet, knowing Fleet was losing FRL students and Barcroft was 60%+ They could (and should) district that part of Alcova Heights to Fleet because it is a stone's throw away. They won't designate it within the walk zone because of Glebe; but for MS it is already in the walk zone (TJ being literally right next to Fleet).
If they rezone that corner to Fleet then they will have to rezone something away from Fleet. Fleet will reach capacity with Bank of America and Westmont apartment buildings, with no place to put trailers.
Anonymous
05/30/2023 15:06
Subject: Re:Title 1 status APS
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Looks like Fleet is about to cross the threshold:
https://www.arlnow.com/2023/05/22/goodwill-and-ahc-propose-new-affordable-housing-new-store-and-child-care/
So, I think that means every single elementary school in South Arlington will be Title 1. I believe the only ES in North Arlington that is Title 1 is Barrett, and that’s practically across the street. So much segregation.
If you look at the current boundary map, it shows the Goodwill site as green for Barcroft. Not saying that’s good—just pointing it out.
Correct. The Goodwill site is in Alcova Heights, which is districted to Barcroft with the one exception of the recent Gilliam Place APAH project. APS did zone that building to Fleet, knowing Fleet was losing FRL students and Barcroft was 60%+ They could (and should) district that part of Alcova Heights to Fleet because it is a stone's throw away. They won't designate it within the walk zone because of Glebe; but for MS it is already in the walk zone (TJ being literally right next to Fleet).
Anonymous
05/30/2023 15:05
Subject: Title 1 status APS
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Plus a billion. Changes could be made but never will be. For those of you in North Arlington- in case you didn’t know South Arlington is approximately 1/3 of the county not 1/2. There are thriving MC and UMC neighborhoods too.
Any cute AH needs to go North of 50.
+1000 - but it doesn't have to be "cute."
They just need to stop concentrating it in the same neighborhoods.
They could just stop building it. I thought we already learned that concentrating poverty in one building is a bad idea. Give these folks a voucher and let them live wherever they want.
They aren’t going to stop building it. There is a public document called the Affordable Housing Master Plan with goals for number of units geographically within Arlington. The county will have egg on its face if it doesn’t stay the course. They can’t reach the goals in the document without buildings that are 100 percent affordable housing.
Anonymous
05/30/2023 12:42
Subject: Re:Title 1 status APS
Anonymous wrote:Looks like Fleet is about to cross the threshold:
https://www.arlnow.com/2023/05/22/goodwill-and-ahc-propose-new-affordable-housing-new-store-and-child-care/
So, I think that means every single elementary school in South Arlington will be Title 1. I believe the only ES in North Arlington that is Title 1 is Barrett, and that’s practically across the street. So much segregation.
If you look at the current boundary map, it shows the Goodwill site as green for Barcroft. Not saying that’s good—just pointing it out.
Anonymous
05/30/2023 12:11
Subject: Title 1 status APS
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Plus a billion. Changes could be made but never will be. For those of you in North Arlington- in case you didn’t know South Arlington is approximately 1/3 of the county not 1/2. There are thriving MC and UMC neighborhoods too.
Any cute AH needs to go North of 50.
+1000 - but it doesn't have to be "cute."
They just need to stop concentrating it in the same neighborhoods.
They could just stop building it. I thought we already learned that concentrating poverty in one building is a bad idea. Give these folks a voucher and let them live wherever they want.
The voucher system is not working well in DC; exorbitant amounts of money are given out (above market rate even) and for the landlords it's free easy money. There is hardly any oversight, and the units are dilapidated, repairs are not done. It's a huge money drain AND abysmal living conditions. No thank you.
Anonymous
05/30/2023 12:09
Subject: Title 1 status APS
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Plus a billion. Changes could be made but never will be. For those of you in North Arlington- in case you didn’t know South Arlington is approximately 1/3 of the county not 1/2. There are thriving MC and UMC neighborhoods too.
Any cute AH needs to go North of 50.
+1000 - but it doesn't have to be "cute."
They just need to stop concentrating it in the same neighborhoods.
They could just stop building it. I thought we already learned that concentrating poverty in one building is a bad idea. Give these folks a voucher and let them live wherever they want.
Anonymous
05/28/2023 10:43
Subject: Title 1 status APS
Anonymous wrote:Plus a billion. Changes could be made but never will be. For those of you in North Arlington- in case you didn’t know South Arlington is approximately 1/3 of the county not 1/2. There are thriving MC and UMC neighborhoods too.
Any cute AH needs to go North of 50.
+1000 - but it doesn't have to be "cute."
They just need to stop concentrating it in the same neighborhoods.
Anonymous
05/27/2023 23:30
Subject: Re:Title 1 status APS
Anonymous wrote:Looks like Fleet is about to cross the threshold:
https://www.arlnow.com/2023/05/22/goodwill-and-ahc-propose-new-affordable-housing-new-store-and-child-care/
So, I think that means every single elementary school in South Arlington will be Title 1. I believe the only ES in North Arlington that is Title 1 is Barrett, and that’s practically across the street. So much segregation.
Fleet lost its Title 1 status several years ago, and it’s trending away from that status further every year. I don’t know which way Oakridge is trending, but there is SO MUCH construction in Arlington, especially South and Central. So trends could change but North of Langston is solidly segregated in that sense, and I don’t see the new zoning changing that…
Anonymous
05/26/2023 17:17
Subject: Title 1 status APS
We love KW Barrett!!!
Anonymous
05/26/2023 07:14
Subject: Title 1 status APS
Plus a billion. Changes could be made but never will be. For those of you in North Arlington- in case you didn’t know South Arlington is approximately 1/3 of the county not 1/2. There are thriving MC and UMC neighborhoods too.
Any cute AH needs to go North of 50.
Any cute AH needs to go North of 50.
Anonymous
05/26/2023 07:10
Subject: Title 1 status APS
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:APS Title 1 schools are: Abingdon, Barcroft, Barrett, Campbell, Carlin Springs, Drew, Hoffman-Boston, and Randolph.
Here is the map of APS elementary schools.
https://www.apsva.us/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/d-Map_Elementary_2022_23.pdf
Draw your own conclusions.
I conclude that first Fleet and then Oakridge will be made Title 1. Can’t have any schools in South Arlington that aren’t.
Did I hallucinate or is Ashlawn at only 17 percent free and reduced lunch? When its zone is continuous to 2 high-poverty low-income schools?
When I saw stuff like this, I know APS (ie ACDC) is just playing politics. I knew they were exaggerating what it would take to work towards balancing the school (or at least making the demographics less disparate)but looking at this map is really enlightening. Scandalous!