Anonymous
07/05/2023 09:26
Subject: Hallal food options - kids bday party
People who have strict restrictive diets know to feed themselves. All you should do is provide plain options like while fruit/veg, and let them choose what they can have.
Someone who is worried about cross contamination will eat before and after the party, or bring their own food, and won't want anything from your party, and that's fine. Someone who is flexible on the small details will eat your food.
Someone who is worried about cross contamination will eat before and after the party, or bring their own food, and won't want anything from your party, and that's fine. Someone who is flexible on the small details will eat your food.
Anonymous
07/04/2023 23:27
Subject: Hallal food options - kids bday party
It’s Halal not Hallal.
Cheese or veggie pizza not in same box as a meat one should be fine.
Dont make it any more complicated and order other items specifically.
Cheese or veggie pizza not in same box as a meat one should be fine.
Dont make it any more complicated and order other items specifically.
Anonymous
07/04/2023 23:11
Subject: Hallal food options - kids bday party
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Depends on how strictly they eat halal. Veggie pizza is made from halal ingredients, but is not considered halal due to cross contamination with non halal meats.
Not true. All my Muslim friends/family will eat a cheese or veggie pizza. Halal refers to how meat is slaughtered/prepared. If there’s no meat (or alcohol) then it’s halal!
And forgot to mention: this does not apply to fish or seafood. These are always considered halal.
Yes halal rules don't apply to fish, but I'd be careful re fish. There are rules re shellfish - I'm Muslim and IDK what those rules even are as they aren't nearly as strict as pork/alcohol. But there are very observant Muslims who wouldn't eat shell fish etc. So if you are going to serve fish, to play it safe go with a river fish.
I am Muslim and I have never heard of this. I have never met a Muslim who would refuse to eat shellfish for religious reasons.
Anonymous
07/04/2023 22:23
Subject: Hallal food options - kids bday party
The options you are planning anyway are halal compatible, so this is reading like an SNL sketch of overly woke parents trying to accommodate the "ethnics".
Anonymous
07/04/2023 22:21
Subject: Hallal food options - kids bday party
The options you are planning anyway are halal compatible, so this is reading like an SNL sketch of overly woke parents trying to accommodate the "ethnics".
Anonymous
07/04/2023 21:18
Subject: Re:Hallal food options - kids bday party
When I broached the Halal vs Kosher to friends who are Jewish and at other times to friends who are Muslim, the Jewish friends said that Kosher is Halal but Halal might not be Kosher and the Muslim friends say Halal is Kosher but Kosher is not always Halal. I think it comes down to the different prayers said when slaughtering the animal.
Anonymous
07/04/2023 19:40
Subject: Hallal food options - kids bday party
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Isn’t kosher food the same thing as Hallal ?
No. Although several Muslims I know will eat food that’s kosher. The reverse is not true - people who keep strictly kosher will not eat halal.
This seems kind of confusing.
It’s really not. Eating halal has those rules and applies mostly to Muslims. Keeping kosher has those rules and applies mostly to Jews. Because of overlap in the rules and the stricter preparation rules kosher food requires, people to eat halal’s needs are met by that diet but not the reverse.
Anonymous
07/04/2023 19:24
Subject: Hallal food options - kids bday party
I have Muslim coworkers who are so strict they wear leather socks and they all eat cheese pizza when the boss buys it.
Anonymous
07/04/2023 19:02
Subject: Hallal food options - kids bday party
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Depends on how strictly they eat halal. Veggie pizza is made from halal ingredients, but is not considered halal due to cross contamination with non halal meats.
Not true. All my Muslim friends/family will eat a cheese or veggie pizza. Halal refers to how meat is slaughtered/prepared. If there’s no meat (or alcohol) then it’s halal!
Google “halal pizza” (different from veggie pizza from a regular pizza place) and haram and educate yourself.
Lol. I'm Muslim and trust me 95% of US Muslims aren't looking for "halal pizza." Shocking to you but a % of Muslims don't even do halal at all - they refrain from pork/alcohol - but then will eat beef, chicken, lamb etc. bc in this country they're being slaughtered by other people of the book (Christians/Jews). I don't think OP needs to cater to the 5% of obsessive fringey Muslims (who let's be honest won't be in attendance bc they don't socialize with non Muslims) in order to be a good host here. Cheese or veggie pizza is perfectly fine and if this person is SOOOOO ridiculously obsessed with religious rules they can simply not eat for a 1 hr bday party - and oh yeah if they're that strict they'll be the type that won't let their kid partake in cake bc omg frosting could have a smidge of gelatin.
OP if this person/kid have accepted your invite, they are likely normal - pizza, cake, etc. are all fine. Only thing I'd do to be hospitable is make sure to not serve them cheese/veggie pizza from the same box as pepperoni or sausage -- i.e. don't order a pizza that is half plain/half pepperoni - as the pepperoni juices could have run onto the cheese side; I've had non Muslim Americans be like so what you're not eating pepperoni, but that's one thing that most Muslims would be uncomfortable with whether they keep halal or not.
+1. I'm 99% sure your planned menu is fine. Especially if you're serving only cheese or veggie pizzas.
Anonymous
06/07/2023 10:11
Subject: Hallal food options - kids bday party
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Isn’t kosher food the same thing as Hallal ?
No. Although several Muslims I know will eat food that’s kosher. The reverse is not true - people who keep strictly kosher will not eat halal.
This seems kind of confusing.
Anonymous
05/13/2023 19:02
Subject: Hallal food options - kids bday party
Anonymous wrote:Isn’t kosher food the same thing as Hallal ?
No. Although several Muslims I know will eat food that’s kosher. The reverse is not true - people who keep strictly kosher will not eat halal.
Anonymous
05/13/2023 16:48
Subject: Hallal food options - kids bday party
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Depends on how strictly they eat halal. Veggie pizza is made from halal ingredients, but is not considered halal due to cross contamination with non halal meats.
Not true. All my Muslim friends/family will eat a cheese or veggie pizza. Halal refers to how meat is slaughtered/prepared. If there’s no meat (or alcohol) then it’s halal!
Google “halal pizza” (different from veggie pizza from a regular pizza place) and haram and educate yourself.
Lol. I'm Muslim and trust me 95% of US Muslims aren't looking for "halal pizza." Shocking to you but a % of Muslims don't even do halal at all - they refrain from pork/alcohol - but then will eat beef, chicken, lamb etc. bc in this country they're being slaughtered by other people of the book (Christians/Jews). I don't think OP needs to cater to the 5% of obsessive fringey Muslims (who let's be honest won't be in attendance bc they don't socialize with non Muslims) in order to be a good host here. Cheese or veggie pizza is perfectly fine and if this person is SOOOOO ridiculously obsessed with religious rules they can simply not eat for a 1 hr bday party - and oh yeah if they're that strict they'll be the type that won't let their kid partake in cake bc omg frosting could have a smidge of gelatin.
OP if this person/kid have accepted your invite, they are likely normal - pizza, cake, etc. are all fine. Only thing I'd do to be hospitable is make sure to not serve them cheese/veggie pizza from the same box as pepperoni or sausage -- i.e. don't order a pizza that is half plain/half pepperoni - as the pepperoni juices could have run onto the cheese side; I've had non Muslim Americans be like so what you're not eating pepperoni, but that's one thing that most Muslims would be uncomfortable with whether they keep halal or not.
Anonymous
05/13/2023 16:40
Subject: Hallal food options - kids bday party
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Depends on how strictly they eat halal. Veggie pizza is made from halal ingredients, but is not considered halal due to cross contamination with non halal meats.
Not true. All my Muslim friends/family will eat a cheese or veggie pizza. Halal refers to how meat is slaughtered/prepared. If there’s no meat (or alcohol) then it’s halal!
And forgot to mention: this does not apply to fish or seafood. These are always considered halal.
Yes halal rules don't apply to fish, but I'd be careful re fish. There are rules re shellfish - I'm Muslim and IDK what those rules even are as they aren't nearly as strict as pork/alcohol. But there are very observant Muslims who wouldn't eat shell fish etc. So if you are going to serve fish, to play it safe go with a river fish.
Anonymous
05/13/2023 16:39
Subject: Hallal food options - kids bday party
Muslim here and I think people here are conflating halal and kosher. Kosher has rules re where the food is prepped, kosher kitchen etc. so most who are strictly kosher won't eat a plain or veggie pizza because it'd be prepped in the same place as pepperoni pizza. Halal rules are easier - it only applies to how the meat is slaughtered.
I'm not halal myself but my very very (preachy) Muslim family is and they routinely eat pizza from everywhere.
As for halal restaurants in this area - Moby (chicken and lamb are halal; beef is not); Tasty Kabob (Tysons); Sheesh Grill (Mosaic and Chantilly); Akivva Grill (S Arlington) and many many others - so you'd have to post your location.
But as an etiquette issue - are you really going to get kabobs for one parent at a kiddie bday party while the other parents suffer through their 80000th bday party with pizza? I'd say get the same thing for all the parents - and in this case any vegetarian food is FINE for the halal Muslims - pizza, bagels, salad, whatever.
FWIW I wouldn't do anything with fish. While fish doesn't have halal/non halal rules, there are rules re shellfish etc. - those rules aren't that strict, but in case this guest is really really observant, there may not eat shellfish.
I'm not halal myself but my very very (preachy) Muslim family is and they routinely eat pizza from everywhere.
As for halal restaurants in this area - Moby (chicken and lamb are halal; beef is not); Tasty Kabob (Tysons); Sheesh Grill (Mosaic and Chantilly); Akivva Grill (S Arlington) and many many others - so you'd have to post your location.
But as an etiquette issue - are you really going to get kabobs for one parent at a kiddie bday party while the other parents suffer through their 80000th bday party with pizza? I'd say get the same thing for all the parents - and in this case any vegetarian food is FINE for the halal Muslims - pizza, bagels, salad, whatever.
FWIW I wouldn't do anything with fish. While fish doesn't have halal/non halal rules, there are rules re shellfish etc. - those rules aren't that strict, but in case this guest is really really observant, there may not eat shellfish.