Anonymous
Post 04/24/2023 11:24     Subject: Re:College Admissions Staff - Massive turnover
Serious question: how can you expect the “best and brightest” to be reading your kids’ applications when none of you would apparently encourage (or allow?) your own best and brightest kids to pursue a job like this?
Anonymous
Post 04/24/2023 11:21     Subject: College Admissions Staff - Massive turnover
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Admission staff are usually college's own grads who don't have better job options.


Exactly! We also discovered this to be true. (I felt horribly judgmental, but...) Every time the admissions staff would gush about being a proud grad of the school - I'd immediately think "and this is what you got from your $80k x 4 investment" ? (Then on the less judgmental side of my brain...) I'm curious what these young adults learn from that job and what they use it to springboard into.

It doesn't help that many of our high school's CCO staff (abysmal this year) also took a tour through college admissions offices before moving to the HS environment.


If it’s an $80k school they’re probably from wealthy families or on full FA so no debt. Biding their time before law school.


Except that no prestigious law school would appreciate reading "college admissions officer" on a resume. They know what the job is, and they're looking for more serious jobs or people going abroad and coming back with interesting experience and/or certifications.
Anonymous
Post 04/24/2023 11:19     Subject: College Admissions Staff - Massive turnover
The outcome is not that important people.

Newsflash: The sun will not rise and set based upon where Larla/Larlo winds up!
Anonymous
Post 04/24/2023 11:19     Subject: College Admissions Staff - Massive turnover
Anonymous wrote:Admission staff are usually college's own grads who don't have better job options.


That has been the case at every college we visited up and down the east coast.
Anonymous
Post 04/24/2023 11:14     Subject: College Admissions Staff - Massive turnover
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Yes and seasonal reader jobs pay $12-$18 and you are on the clock to read 4 - 6 applications per hour and score them. (ps. you can find the job descriptions - even at Ivies that show those expectations)

The entire process is broken

It should be like residency match in medicine - you rank your matches 1 to 20 and they rank applicants and those are matched.




How do I get this type of job as a side gig? I have multiple degrees from T25 schools and would find it very interesting. I feel like more DCUM folks should try to do this to understand the process well before their kids go through it.


I applied with very strong credentials and didn’t get picked up or even interviewed. I don’t think they want a well qualified person in that position.


I think they want young & expendable folks.


But it was a set hourly rate and a temp position. Though I’m guessing they did hire younger people. I don’t think they want parents of future applicants to see how the sausage is made.


What are your credentials?
Anonymous
Post 04/24/2023 11:13     Subject: College Admissions Staff - Massive turnover
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Yes and seasonal reader jobs pay $12-$18 and you are on the clock to read 4 - 6 applications per hour and score them. (ps. you can find the job descriptions - even at Ivies that show those expectations)

The entire process is broken

It should be like residency match in medicine - you rank your matches 1 to 20 and they rank applicants and those are matched.




How do I get this type of job as a side gig? I have multiple degrees from T25 schools and would find it very interesting. I feel like more DCUM folks should try to do this to understand the process well before their kids go through it.


I applied with very strong credentials and didn’t get picked up or even interviewed. I don’t think they want a well qualified person in that position.


I think they want young & expendable folks.


But it was a set hourly rate and a temp position. Though I’m guessing they did hire younger people. I don’t think they want parents of future applicants to see how the sausage is made.
Anonymous
Post 04/24/2023 11:12     Subject: College Admissions Staff - Massive turnover
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Yes and seasonal reader jobs pay $12-$18 and you are on the clock to read 4 - 6 applications per hour and score them. (ps. you can find the job descriptions - even at Ivies that show those expectations)

The entire process is broken

It should be like residency match in medicine - you rank your matches 1 to 20 and they rank applicants and those are matched.




How do I get this type of job as a side gig? I have multiple degrees from T25 schools and would find it very interesting. I feel like more DCUM folks should try to do this to understand the process well before their kids go through it.


I applied with very strong credentials and didn’t get picked up or even interviewed. I don’t think they want a well qualified person in that position.


Or maybe they just didn’t want you. Get over yourself.
Anonymous
Post 04/24/2023 11:11     Subject: College Admissions Staff - Massive turnover
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Admission staff are usually college's own grads who don't have better job options.


Exactly! We also discovered this to be true. (I felt horribly judgmental, but...) Every time the admissions staff would gush about being a proud grad of the school - I'd immediately think "and this is what you got from your $80k x 4 investment" ? (Then on the less judgmental side of my brain...) I'm curious what these young adults learn from that job and what they use it to springboard into.

It doesn't help that many of our high school's CCO staff (abysmal this year) also took a tour through college admissions offices before moving to the HS environment.


You people are so completely idiotic. You’ll complain if people in these positions aren’t educated enough. You’ll complain if they’re too educated. You’ll just complain, period.
Anonymous
Post 04/24/2023 11:09     Subject: College Admissions Staff - Massive turnover
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Yes and seasonal reader jobs pay $12-$18 and you are on the clock to read 4 - 6 applications per hour and score them. (ps. you can find the job descriptions - even at Ivies that show those expectations)

The entire process is broken

It should be like residency match in medicine - you rank your matches 1 to 20 and they rank applicants and those are matched.




How do I get this type of job as a side gig? I have multiple degrees from T25 schools and would find it very interesting. I feel like more DCUM folks should try to do this to understand the process well before their kids go through it.


I applied with very strong credentials and didn’t get picked up or even interviewed. I don’t think they want a well qualified person in that position.


I think they want young & expendable folks.
Anonymous
Post 04/24/2023 11:06     Subject: Re:College Admissions Staff - Massive turnover
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Seems like a catch 22 because to pay staff more, tuition would have to rise. Administrative bloat is a concern on campuses.

Maybe the heads could cut their pay and pay the lower staff a bit more. Or, they could use the $$$ in their endowment.


Very much agree. However, what head, in any field would agree to a pay cut? And endowments are generally restricted for certain purposes.
Anonymous
Post 04/24/2023 11:02     Subject: College Admissions Staff - Massive turnover
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Yes and seasonal reader jobs pay $12-$18 and you are on the clock to read 4 - 6 applications per hour and score them. (ps. you can find the job descriptions - even at Ivies that show those expectations)

The entire process is broken

It should be like residency match in medicine - you rank your matches 1 to 20 and they rank applicants and those are matched.




How do I get this type of job as a side gig? I have multiple degrees from T25 schools and would find it very interesting. I feel like more DCUM folks should try to do this to understand the process well before their kids go through it.


I applied with very strong credentials and didn’t get picked up or even interviewed. I don’t think they want a well qualified person in that position.
Anonymous
Post 04/24/2023 10:59     Subject: College Admissions Staff - Massive turnover
Anonymous wrote:Yes and seasonal reader jobs pay $12-$18 and you are on the clock to read 4 - 6 applications per hour and score them. (ps. you can find the job descriptions - even at Ivies that show those expectations)

The entire process is broken

It should be like residency match in medicine - you rank your matches 1 to 20 and they rank applicants and those are matched.




How do I get this type of job as a side gig? I have multiple degrees from T25 schools and would find it very interesting. I feel like more DCUM folks should try to do this to understand the process well before their kids go through it.
Anonymous
Post 04/24/2023 10:53     Subject: College Admissions Staff - Massive turnover
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Admission staff are usually college's own grads who don't have better job options.


Exactly! We also discovered this to be true. (I felt horribly judgmental, but...) Every time the admissions staff would gush about being a proud grad of the school - I'd immediately think "and this is what you got from your $80k x 4 investment" ? (Then on the less judgmental side of my brain...) I'm curious what these young adults learn from that job and what they use it to springboard into.

It doesn't help that many of our high school's CCO staff (abysmal this year) also took a tour through college admissions offices before moving to the HS environment.


If it’s an $80k school they’re probably from wealthy families or on full FA so no debt. Biding their time before law school.
Anonymous
Post 04/24/2023 10:52     Subject: Re:College Admissions Staff - Massive turnover
Anonymous wrote:Seems like a catch 22 because to pay staff more, tuition would have to rise. Administrative bloat is a concern on campuses.

Maybe the heads could cut their pay and pay the lower staff a bit more. Or, they could use the $$$ in their endowment.
Anonymous
Post 04/24/2023 10:51     Subject: Re:College Admissions Staff - Massive turnover
Seems like a catch 22 because to pay staff more, tuition would have to rise. Administrative bloat is a concern on campuses.