Anonymous wrote:What is race anyway? Asians are categorized by geographic location, not by race. South Asians such as Indians are of a completely different race than East Asians such as Koreans. Now lumping all these people together as “Asians”, we have an over represented group of Asians. In fact, Indians are often categorized as Caucasians in many countries. If we use that categorization, maybe it is the Caucasian group that’s over represented.

This is important. There is only one sub-group at TJ that is over represented to any amount - South Asians. And WILDLY so. They represent approximately 5% of the catchment area yet occupy nearly 45% of the seats at TJ, even AFTER the admissions changes.

How many kids from each school were selected?

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Anonymous wrote:From WAPO: “The Class of 2026 at TJ, as the school is known, will include 550 students accepted from a pool of 2,544 applicants. Of the offers sent to eighth-graders, about 60 percent went to Asian students, 21 percent to White students, 8 percent to Hispanic students and 6 percent to Black students.”

Those poor Asians. Beaten down by the system such that they actually had a higher percentage of admitted students than they had applicants. Must be racism at work.

I am not Asian, but I am not about to deny that it is very obvious that Asians are discriminated against in academic admission decisions. I hear the reasons why (apparently we do not want Harvard, etc. to be 99% Asian) and maybe they are good reasons (diverse student body), but let's just admit we discriminate against Asians.

So a group that makes up 90% of the magnet program feels discriminated against? This is a joke right?

Anonymous wrote:What is race anyway? Asians are categorized by geographic location, not by race. South Asians such as Indians are of a completely different race than East Asians such as Koreans. Now lumping all these people together as “Asians”, we have an over represented group of Asians. In fact, Indians are often categorized as Caucasians in many countries. If we use that categorization, maybe it is the Caucasian group that’s over represented.

When we learned about race in FCPS, people were classified as black, Asian, or white. They don't split hairs with these distinctions.

Anonymous wrote:What is race anyway? Asians are categorized by geographic location, not by race. South Asians such as Indians are of a completely different race than East Asians such as Koreans. Now lumping all these people together as “Asians”, we have an over represented group of Asians. In fact, Indians are often categorized as Caucasians in many countries. If we use that categorization, maybe it is the Caucasian group that’s over represented.

... especially when you throw in the white hispanics.

What is race anyway? Asians are categorized by geographic location, not by race. South Asians such as Indians are of a completely different race than East Asians such as Koreans. Now lumping all these people together as “Asians”, we have an over represented group of Asians. In fact, Indians are often categorized as Caucasians in many countries. If we use that categorization, maybe it is the Caucasian group that’s over represented.

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Anonymous wrote:From WAPO: “The Class of 2026 at TJ, as the school is known, will include 550 students accepted from a pool of 2,544 applicants. Of the offers sent to eighth-graders, about 60 percent went to Asian students, 21 percent to White students, 8 percent to Hispanic students and 6 percent to Black students.”

Those poor Asians. Beaten down by the system such that they actually had a higher percentage of admitted students than they had applicants. Must be racism at work.

I am not Asian, but I am not about to deny that it is very obvious that Asians are discriminated against in academic admission decisions. I hear the reasons why (apparently we do not want Harvard, etc. to be 99% Asian) and maybe they are good reasons (diverse student body), but let's just admit we discriminate against Asians.

Perhaps but definitely not the case here. That would be completely ridiculous given thel facts. Asians are better represented than any other group in the county and selection is race blind.

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Anonymous wrote:From WAPO: “The Class of 2026 at TJ, as the school is known, will include 550 students accepted from a pool of 2,544 applicants. Of the offers sent to eighth-graders, about 60 percent went to Asian students, 21 percent to White students, 8 percent to Hispanic students and 6 percent to Black students.”

Those poor Asians. Beaten down by the system such that they actually had a higher percentage of admitted students than they had applicants. Must be racism at work.

I am not Asian, but I am not about to deny that it is very obvious that Asians are discriminated against in academic admission decisions. I hear the reasons why (apparently we do not want Harvard, etc. to be 99% Asian) and maybe they are good reasons (diverse student body), but let's just admit we discriminate against Asians.

The only anti-Asian discrimination is in putting in a per school quota. However, Asians can get the quota seats in the schools where they intended to get black or Hispanic admits. Even more so with some families moving to these schools for a year to boost chances. I wonder if we could get stats on this, followups about what happened with the group that rented an apartment in Herndon.
At our school, the new admissions system likely caused a higher Asian percentage than would have happened with a test. Perhaps it's the same as I don't know the race of one student who is declining admission. The name suggests white, but it could be something else as it is a literary name.

Care to share the name of the MS ?

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Anonymous wrote:From WAPO: “The Class of 2026 at TJ, as the school is known, will include 550 students accepted from a pool of 2,544 applicants. Of the offers sent to eighth-graders, about 60 percent went to Asian students, 21 percent to White students, 8 percent to Hispanic students and 6 percent to Black students.”

Those poor Asians. Beaten down by the system such that they actually had a higher percentage of admitted students than they had applicants. Must be racism at work.

I am not Asian, but I am not about to deny that it is very obvious that Asians are discriminated against in academic admission decisions. I hear the reasons why (apparently we do not want Harvard, etc. to be 99% Asian) and maybe they are good reasons (diverse student body), but let's just admit we discriminate against Asians.

The only anti-Asian discrimination is in putting in a per school quota. However, Asians can get the quota seats in the schools where they intended to get black or Hispanic admits. Even more so with some families moving to these schools for a year to boost chances. I wonder if we could get stats on this, followups about what happened with the group that rented an apartment in Herndon.
At our school, the new admissions system likely caused a higher Asian percentage than would have happened with a test. Perhaps it's the same as I don't know the race of one student who is declining admission. The name suggests white, but it could be something else as it is a literary name.

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Anonymous wrote:From WAPO: “The Class of 2026 at TJ, as the school is known, will include 550 students accepted from a pool of 2,544 applicants. Of the offers sent to eighth-graders, about 60 percent went to Asian students, 21 percent to White students, 8 percent to Hispanic students and 6 percent to Black students.”

Those poor Asians. Beaten down by the system such that they actually had a higher percentage of admitted students than they had applicants. Must be racism at work.

I am not Asian, but I am not about to deny that it is very obvious that Asians are discriminated against in academic admission decisions. I hear the reasons why (apparently we do not want Harvard, etc. to be 99% Asian) and maybe they are good reasons (diverse student body), but let's just admit we discriminate against Asians.

Anonymous wrote:The Class of 2025, the first to be admitted under the system, was about 54 percent Asian, 22 percent White, 11 percent Hispanic and 7 percent Black.

For the Class of 2026 at TJ, about 60 percent went to Asian students, 21 percent to White students, 8 percent to Hispanic students and 6 percent to Black students.

Let’s wait for the numbers for Class 2027.

This metric will be more helpful if they can share total # of candidates who applied vs total who got accepted. The above metric merely suggests that a lot of Asians applied and got in compared to the other races. TBH .. it is not very helpful

Anonymous wrote:The Class of 2025, the first to be admitted under the system, was about 54 percent Asian, 22 percent White, 11 percent Hispanic and 7 percent Black.

For the Class of 2026 at TJ, about 60 percent went to Asian students, 21 percent to White students, 8 percent to Hispanic students and 6 percent to Black students.

Let’s wait for the numbers for Class 2027.

Do we have a more disaggregated breakdown of the asian group? South v. East v. Central?

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Anonymous wrote:The Class of 2025, the first to be admitted under the system, was about 54 percent Asian, 22 percent White, 11 percent Hispanic and 7 percent Black.

For the Class of 2026 at TJ, about 60 percent went to Asian students, 21 percent to White students, 8 percent to Hispanic students and 6 percent to Black students.

Let’s wait for the numbers for Class 2027.

To what extent did the huge increase in kids from PWC lead to the increase in Hispanic and Black kids?

I wish they would break down the demographics by county, since the FCPS, LCPS, APS, and PWCS TJ admission demographics are most likely quite different.

Anecdotally, PWC was a HUGE factor in those increases. I don't think any stats exist for it, but... yeah. And while the increase in Black and Hispanic students is absolutely a good thing, the increase in students from PWC isn't, necessarily. It's a lot harder for those kids to do anything significant from an extracurricular perspective.

Anonymous wrote:The Class of 2025, the first to be admitted under the system, was about 54 percent Asian, 22 percent White, 11 percent Hispanic and 7 percent Black.

For the Class of 2026 at TJ, about 60 percent went to Asian students, 21 percent to White students, 8 percent to Hispanic students and 6 percent to Black students.

Let’s wait for the numbers for Class 2027.

To what extent did the huge increase in kids from PWC lead to the increase in Hispanic and Black kids?

I wish they would break down the demographics by county, since the FCPS, LCPS, APS, and PWCS TJ admission demographics are most likely quite different.

Anonymous wrote:The Class of 2025, the first to be admitted under the system, was about 54 percent Asian, 22 percent White, 11 percent Hispanic and 7 percent Black.

For the Class of 2026 at TJ, about 60 percent went to Asian students, 21 percent to White students, 8 percent to Hispanic students and 6 percent to Black students.

Let’s wait for the numbers for Class 2027.

I predict the number will gravitate to what they had been with the old system as people figure out how to better game the new system.