Anonymous
04/26/2023 14:49
Subject: NNAT scores
DS1 scored 118 on the NNAT, 136 on COGAT and WISC, and got in first round with 4CO's.
I was very worried about his NNAT score, it wound up not mattering at all.
I was very worried about his NNAT score, it wound up not mattering at all.
Anonymous
04/26/2023 14:25
Subject: NNAT scores
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My kid got 125. Extremely disappointed.
Sorry PP. It may not be the most important thing in AAP eligibility; FCPS claims it's all "holistic" now which allows them limitless latitude in who gets in. Nevertheless, you can request a retest, if you think this score doesn't reflect your child's abilities.
Holistic is complete BS. My aunt (former AART in FCPS) says they evaluate both the NNAT and COGAT evenly. The cutoff for the NNAT in previous years is 132-134. Equity/race is also a big factor. On the packet that's sent to the committee there is a federal ethnic code that is filled out. My child scored a 109 on the NNAT and a 145 on the COGAT with near perfect GBRS and was rejected. I am not appealing. The process is complete BS. I can't believe one bad test means "NO AAP FOR YOU!!".
Appeal. You have the right scores to do so.
One low score does not preclude AAP but the admissions process is a bit idiosyncratic and sometimes a second-look fixes some mistakes from the first round.
If you thought your kid's NNAT was understating his abilities, why didn't you request a free retest? Or shell out $$ for a WISC? Especially since you know he's not getting extra consideration for race? Does your aunt's insight was a former AART in FCPS still apply to the new process? The web site is deliberately vague about how the scores are combined and yes, "holistic" covers a variety of machinations.
PP here. Why is that? My AART aunt said to retake the NNAT since the COGAT is already 145.
PP here. Aunt retired last year. I might apply my kid again next year. Maybe take the NNAT again.
Don't bother with the NNAT. See what the Cogat score is, and consider a WISC. But don't request a retake for the NNAT.
Anonymous
04/26/2023 13:54
Subject: NNAT scores
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My kid got 125. Extremely disappointed.
Sorry PP. It may not be the most important thing in AAP eligibility; FCPS claims it's all "holistic" now which allows them limitless latitude in who gets in. Nevertheless, you can request a retest, if you think this score doesn't reflect your child's abilities.
Holistic is complete BS. My aunt (former AART in FCPS) says they evaluate both the NNAT and COGAT evenly. The cutoff for the NNAT in previous years is 132-134. Equity/race is also a big factor. On the packet that's sent to the committee there is a federal ethnic code that is filled out. My child scored a 109 on the NNAT and a 145 on the COGAT with near perfect GBRS and was rejected. I am not appealing. The process is complete BS. I can't believe one bad test means "NO AAP FOR YOU!!".
Appeal. You have the right scores to do so.
One low score does not preclude AAP but the admissions process is a bit idiosyncratic and sometimes a second-look fixes some mistakes from the first round.
If you thought your kid's NNAT was understating his abilities, why didn't you request a free retest? Or shell out $$ for a WISC? Especially since you know he's not getting extra consideration for race? Does your aunt's insight was a former AART in FCPS still apply to the new process? The web site is deliberately vague about how the scores are combined and yes, "holistic" covers a variety of machinations.
PP here. Aunt retired last year. I might apply my kid again next year. Maybe take the NNAT again.
Don't bother with the NNAT. See what the Cogat score is, and consider a WISC. But don't request a retake for the NNAT.
Anonymous
04/26/2023 13:49
Subject: NNAT scores
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My kid got 125. Extremely disappointed.
Sorry PP. It may not be the most important thing in AAP eligibility; FCPS claims it's all "holistic" now which allows them limitless latitude in who gets in. Nevertheless, you can request a retest, if you think this score doesn't reflect your child's abilities.
Holistic is complete BS. My aunt (former AART in FCPS) says they evaluate both the NNAT and COGAT evenly. The cutoff for the NNAT in previous years is 132-134. Equity/race is also a big factor. On the packet that's sent to the committee there is a federal ethnic code that is filled out. My child scored a 109 on the NNAT and a 145 on the COGAT with near perfect GBRS and was rejected. I am not appealing. The process is complete BS. I can't believe one bad test means "NO AAP FOR YOU!!".
Appeal. You have the right scores to do so.
One low score does not preclude AAP but the admissions process is a bit idiosyncratic and sometimes a second-look fixes some mistakes from the first round.
If you thought your kid's NNAT was understating his abilities, why didn't you request a free retest? Or shell out $$ for a WISC? Especially since you know he's not getting extra consideration for race? Does your aunt's insight was a former AART in FCPS still apply to the new process? The web site is deliberately vague about how the scores are combined and yes, "holistic" covers a variety of machinations.
PP here. Aunt retired last year. I might apply my kid again next year. Maybe take the NNAT again.
Anonymous
04/26/2023 13:25
Subject: NNAT scores
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My kid got 125. Extremely disappointed.
Sorry PP. It may not be the most important thing in AAP eligibility; FCPS claims it's all "holistic" now which allows them limitless latitude in who gets in. Nevertheless, you can request a retest, if you think this score doesn't reflect your child's abilities.
Holistic is complete BS. My aunt (former AART in FCPS) says they evaluate both the NNAT and COGAT evenly. The cutoff for the NNAT in previous years is 132-134. Equity/race is also a big factor. On the packet that's sent to the committee there is a federal ethnic code that is filled out. My child scored a 109 on the NNAT and a 145 on the COGAT with near perfect GBRS and was rejected. I am not appealing. The process is complete BS. I can't believe one bad test means "NO AAP FOR YOU!!".
Appeal. You have the right scores to do so.
One low score does not preclude AAP but the admissions process is a bit idiosyncratic and sometimes a second-look fixes some mistakes from the first round.
If you thought your kid's NNAT was understating his abilities, why didn't you request a free retest? Or shell out $$ for a WISC? Especially since you know he's not getting extra consideration for race? Does your aunt's insight was a former AART in FCPS still apply to the new process? The web site is deliberately vague about how the scores are combined and yes, "holistic" covers a variety of machinations.
Anonymous
04/26/2023 11:24
Subject: NNAT scores
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My kid got 125. Extremely disappointed.
Sorry PP. It may not be the most important thing in AAP eligibility; FCPS claims it's all "holistic" now which allows them limitless latitude in who gets in. Nevertheless, you can request a retest, if you think this score doesn't reflect your child's abilities.
Holistic is complete BS. My aunt (former AART in FCPS) says they evaluate both the NNAT and COGAT evenly. The cutoff for the NNAT in previous years is 132-134. Equity/race is also a big factor. On the packet that's sent to the committee there is a federal ethnic code that is filled out. My child scored a 109 on the NNAT and a 145 on the COGAT with near perfect GBRS and was rejected. I am not appealing. The process is complete BS. I can't believe one bad test means "NO AAP FOR YOU!!".
Appeal. You have the right scores to do so.
One low score does not preclude AAP but the admissions process is a bit idiosyncratic and sometimes a second-look fixes some mistakes from the first round.
Anonymous
04/26/2023 11:18
Subject: NNAT scores
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My kid got 125. Extremely disappointed.
Sorry PP. It may not be the most important thing in AAP eligibility; FCPS claims it's all "holistic" now which allows them limitless latitude in who gets in. Nevertheless, you can request a retest, if you think this score doesn't reflect your child's abilities.
Holistic is complete BS. My aunt (former AART in FCPS) says they evaluate both the NNAT and COGAT evenly. The cutoff for the NNAT in previous years is 132-134. Equity/race is also a big factor. On the packet that's sent to the committee there is a federal ethnic code that is filled out. My child scored a 109 on the NNAT and a 145 on the COGAT with near perfect GBRS and was rejected. I am not appealing. The process is complete BS. I can't believe one bad test means "NO AAP FOR YOU!!".
Anonymous
04/26/2023 10:46
Subject: NNAT scores
Anonymous wrote:My kid got 125. Extremely disappointed.
Sorry PP. It may not be the most important thing in AAP eligibility; FCPS claims it's all "holistic" now which allows them limitless latitude in who gets in. Nevertheless, you can request a retest, if you think this score doesn't reflect your child's abilities.
Anonymous
04/26/2023 10:19
Subject: Re:NNAT scores
Anonymous wrote:It may be the least important, but sometimes teachers with large classes don't recognize the individual students abilities until they see a good test score. Then they start to notice a bit more.
Can teachers see these test scores? DS scored highly but his teachers generally don't like him because he doesn't pay attention in class. It would be nice if the teacher paid more attention to him as a result of these types of test scores, but I didn't think the teacher necessarily could can see the test scores. I'm also skeptical in the case of DS that the teacher will be inclined to pay more attention given that DS isn't a helpful classroom presence. DS isn't disruptive or anything, but he's somewhat in his own world and doing his own thing because he finds class boring.
Anonymous
04/26/2023 10:16
Subject: Re:NNAT scores
Do the teachers receive a copy of the scores?
Anonymous
04/26/2023 10:11
Subject: Re:NNAT scores
It may be the least important, but sometimes teachers with large classes don't recognize the individual students abilities until they see a good test score. Then they start to notice a bit more.
Anonymous
04/26/2023 09:56
Subject: Re:NNAT scores
This is basically an IQ test, right? It is what it is.
Anonymous
04/26/2023 09:47
Subject: NNAT scores
Anonymous wrote:So what do these scores mean? What is the range of scores for AAP?
The highest possible score is 160. Not sure about the lowest possible score is. I think historically 132 has been the 98 percentile cutoff that people cared about for AAP purposes. That being said, I'm not sure how meaningful that cutoff is anymore as people are now compared to others in their local school. In addition, as far as factors in AAP admissions goes, the NNAT is apparently the least important.
Anonymous
04/26/2023 09:42
Subject: NNAT scores
My kid got 125. Extremely disappointed.
Anonymous
04/26/2023 09:41
Subject: NNAT scores
So what do these scores mean? What is the range of scores for AAP?