Anonymous
04/15/2023 16:12
Subject: Re:Minneapolis approved change in noise regulations to allow Islamic call to prayer 5 times per day
I have also lived in a Muslim country and it’s true that even some of the locals get annoyed by all the noise. But to be completely honest, you get used to it and stop noticing it after a while. Even at 5:30am. Kind of like living next to a train track, you eventually just tune out the noise.
Anonymous
04/15/2023 16:02
Subject: Minneapolis approved change in noise regulations to allow Islamic call to prayer 5 times per day
Anonymous wrote:This is clearly unconstitutional.
Not allowing it was unconstitutional? Or allowing it now?
Anonymous
04/15/2023 15:32
Subject: Minneapolis approved change in noise regulations to allow Islamic call to prayer 5 times per day
The call to prayer could be better accomplished with a phone alert. It's hard to argue that this kind of noise intrusion is necessary.
Anonymous
04/15/2023 15:30
Subject: Minneapolis approved change in noise regulations to allow Islamic call to prayer 5 times per day
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I think the call to prayer is one of the loveliest sounds out there. It's not like it's a honking horn.
I feel like this is something that many people will say is lovely because they don’t actually live by a mosque and never will. I think it’s lovely as well when I occasionally hear it. But not if I were forced to hear it 35 times a WEEK. It isn’t going to sound so lovely at 5:30 in the morning. This is going to be a problem in poor crowded neighborhoods when a mosque opens. And just wait until a religious group that is opposed starts blaring music some people find offensive an hour a day. It’s not hard to imagine an evangelical group doing this or a group like the Satanic temple (they opening after school clubs just to oppose the evangelical good news club.)
An evangelical church isn't going to blare music. They may ring their church bells. Beautiful music for the day!
Evangelical churches don't have church bells, IME.
Anonymous
04/15/2023 15:17
Subject: Minneapolis approved change in noise regulations to allow Islamic call to prayer 5 times per day
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I think the call to prayer is one of the loveliest sounds out there. It's not like it's a honking horn.
I feel like this is something that many people will say is lovely because they don’t actually live by a mosque and never will. I think it’s lovely as well when I occasionally hear it. But not if I were forced to hear it 35 times a WEEK. It isn’t going to sound so lovely at 5:30 in the morning. This is going to be a problem in poor crowded neighborhoods when a mosque opens. And just wait until a religious group that is opposed starts blaring music some people find offensive an hour a day. It’s not hard to imagine an evangelical group doing this or a group like the Satanic temple (they opening after school clubs just to oppose the evangelical good news club.)
An evangelical church isn't going to blare music. They may ring their church bells. Beautiful music for the day!
Until a rabid evangelical who wants to save souls starts blasting Christian music to drown out the Muslim call to prayer. and a Satanic church starts blasting Black Sabbath. The new law has NO maximum decibel level that is mentioned. They now have that right 6 minutes every hour for up to 60 minutes a day. So does every religion. There are apps and receivers that can be placed in believers houses that can transmit the call to prayer. Noise pollution is awful.
Forgot to add. The call to prayer was legal in Minneapolis before what was illegal was doing it before 7 am or after 10 pm. Now it can be done at as early as required. The first morning prayer of the day is done between dawn and no later than sunrise; it is called Fajr. I just googled what time is Fajr in Minneapolis today it is between It is between 5:02 am and 6:29. The time changes daily depending on sunrise. It is listed on June 21st as between 3:30 and 5:26 am. And the last prayer time is at 11 pm. How many people really want to hear a call to prayer on a loudspeaker before 5:26 and at 11 pm?
Anonymous
04/15/2023 14:57
Subject: Minneapolis approved change in noise regulations to allow Islamic call to prayer 5 times per day
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I think the call to prayer is one of the loveliest sounds out there. It's not like it's a honking horn.
I feel like this is something that many people will say is lovely because they don’t actually live by a mosque and never will. I think it’s lovely as well when I occasionally hear it. But not if I were forced to hear it 35 times a WEEK. It isn’t going to sound so lovely at 5:30 in the morning. This is going to be a problem in poor crowded neighborhoods when a mosque opens. And just wait until a religious group that is opposed starts blaring music some people find offensive an hour a day. It’s not hard to imagine an evangelical group doing this or a group like the Satanic temple (they opening after school clubs just to oppose the evangelical good news club.)
An evangelical church isn't going to blare music. They may ring their church bells. Beautiful music for the day!
Until a rabid evangelical who wants to save souls starts blasting Christian music to drown out the Muslim call to prayer. and a Satanic church starts blasting Black Sabbath. The new law has NO maximum decibel level that is mentioned. They now have that right 6 minutes every hour for up to 60 minutes a day. So does every religion. There are apps and receivers that can be placed in believers houses that can transmit the call to prayer. Noise pollution is awful.
Anonymous
04/15/2023 14:51
Subject: Minneapolis approved change in noise regulations to allow Islamic call to prayer 5 times per day
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:5:30am is unreasonable in my opin[b]ion. When do church bells start? 9:30 pm is fine but who wants to be woken or have their kids woken at 5:30?!
Muslim people.
They are welcome to set their personal alarm clocks for that.
Anonymous
04/15/2023 13:13
Subject: Minneapolis approved change in noise regulations to allow Islamic call to prayer 5 times per day
Anonymous wrote:5:30am is unreasonable in my opin[b]ion. When do church bells start? 9:30 pm is fine but who wants to be woken or have their kids woken at 5:30?!
Muslim people.
Anonymous
04/15/2023 13:11
Subject: Minneapolis approved change in noise regulations to allow Islamic call to prayer 5 times per day
Anonymous wrote:As someone who has lived in a country where the call to prayer is blasted on a megaphone, it’s awful. I don’t care if it sounds “lovely,” there are times in the day when you don’t want to hear something like that, lovely or not.
It’s especially bad when two mosques are in proximity to you but their timing is slightly off so you get DOUBLE the call to prayer, or slightly overlapping call to prayer.
The call to prayer was designed before megaphones and loudspeakers, that bit of technology ruins it. Even Muslims in the country I stayed hated it but they, too, we’re afraid to organize opposition.
This. Being not right next door to a mosque is a real consideration when people look for housing.
Anonymous
04/15/2023 13:05
Subject: Minneapolis approved change in noise regulations to allow Islamic call to prayer 5 times per day
Anonymous wrote:+1Anonymous wrote:I think the call to prayer is one of the loveliest sounds out there. It's not like it's a honking horn.
+2! This is awesome. I love the call to prayer and I’m not religious at all. I also enjoyed hearing reveille and taps when I lived on a military base.
Anonymous
04/15/2023 13:01
Subject: Minneapolis approved change in noise regulations to allow Islamic call to prayer 5 times per day
5:30am is unreasonable in my opinion. When do church bells start? 9:30 pm is fine but who wants to be woken or have their kids woken at 5:30?!
Anonymous
04/15/2023 12:49
Subject: Minneapolis approved change in noise regulations to allow Islamic call to prayer 5 times per day
As someone who has lived in a country where the call to prayer is blasted on a megaphone, it’s awful. I don’t care if it sounds “lovely,” there are times in the day when you don’t want to hear something like that, lovely or not.
It’s especially bad when two mosques are in proximity to you but their timing is slightly off so you get DOUBLE the call to prayer, or slightly overlapping call to prayer.
The call to prayer was designed before megaphones and loudspeakers, that bit of technology ruins it. Even Muslims in the country I stayed hated it but they, too, we’re afraid to organize opposition.
It’s especially bad when two mosques are in proximity to you but their timing is slightly off so you get DOUBLE the call to prayer, or slightly overlapping call to prayer.
The call to prayer was designed before megaphones and loudspeakers, that bit of technology ruins it. Even Muslims in the country I stayed hated it but they, too, we’re afraid to organize opposition.
Anonymous
04/15/2023 12:44
Subject: Minneapolis approved change in noise regulations to allow Islamic call to prayer 5 times per day
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I think the call to prayer is one of the loveliest sounds out there. It's not like it's a honking horn.
I feel like this is something that many people will say is lovely because they don’t actually live by a mosque and never will. I think it’s lovely as well when I occasionally hear it. But not if I were forced to hear it 35 times a WEEK. It isn’t going to sound so lovely at 5:30 in the morning. This is going to be a problem in poor crowded neighborhoods when a mosque opens. And just wait until a religious group that is opposed starts blaring music some people find offensive an hour a day. It’s not hard to imagine an evangelical group doing this or a group like the Satanic temple (they opening after school clubs just to oppose the evangelical good news club.)
An evangelical church isn't going to blare music. They may ring their church bells. Beautiful music for the day!
Anonymous
04/15/2023 11:52
Subject: Minneapolis approved change in noise regulations to allow Islamic call to prayer 5 times per day
Anonymous wrote:I think the call to prayer is one of the loveliest sounds out there. It's not like it's a honking horn.
I feel like this is something that many people will say is lovely because they don’t actually live by a mosque and never will. I think it’s lovely as well when I occasionally hear it. But not if I were forced to hear it 35 times a WEEK. It isn’t going to sound so lovely at 5:30 in the morning. This is going to be a problem in poor crowded neighborhoods when a mosque opens. And just wait until a religious group that is opposed starts blaring music some people find offensive an hour a day. It’s not hard to imagine an evangelical group doing this or a group like the Satanic temple (they opening after school clubs just to oppose the evangelical good news club.)
Anonymous
04/15/2023 11:06
Subject: Minneapolis approved change in noise regulations to allow Islamic call to prayer 5 times per day
Anonymous wrote:I live in Minneapolis and am proud and supportive of this change.
I'd love hearing the call to prayer and hoping that church bells are ringing on the hour, too.