Anonymous
04/12/2023 00:34
Subject: Re:Are Ivies still enrolling the best students? Yes, but maybe not undergrads
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Princeton is seriously over-rated. Full of legacy admits, many of whom would not get into other top schools. This will catch up with them, the brand I mean.
This. I’ve never heard of anyone actually attending Princeton. I know kids at every other Ivy but no one ever gets in. It’s all for rich and connected kids.
+1000
Anonymous
04/12/2023 00:16
Subject: Are Ivies still enrolling the best students? Yes, but maybe not undergrads
Penn Vet is harder to get into than many med schools. But the OP is right, if you are planning to go to law or med school, graduating summa cum laude/PBK/lots of awards from any decent school will get you into the top schools.
Anonymous
04/12/2023 00:08
Subject: Re:Are Ivies still enrolling the best students? Yes, but maybe not undergrads
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Princeton is seriously over-rated. Full of legacy admits, many of whom would not get into other top schools. This will catch up with them, the brand I mean.
This. I’ve never heard of anyone actually attending Princeton. I know kids at every other Ivy but no one ever gets in. It’s all for rich and connected kids.
Several high school Jeopardy champs went to Princeton. Not rich and connected kids.
Anonymous
04/11/2023 23:30
Subject: Are Ivies still enrolling the best students? Yes, but maybe not undergrads
Anonymous wrote:To append a previous/similar post:
The Ivies do attract the absolute best. I've done both - midwest state flagship (undergrad) to Ivy (grad). There is no comparison. Trust me, the Ivy is a different league altogether and it allows you to truly peel away from the ordinary. However, do NOT obsess too much about the undergrad level. I personally was not overly impressed with the caliber of undergrads at the Ivy school I attended, and I know because I was a TA. The students in the grad or professional programs are worlds apart and represent the most talented group on campus. Get your degree anywhere and excel. I've met people who started at a community college, transferred to a four-year college and admitted to medical school at my Ivy.
50% of their students are best, which is still much higher than most schools.
Anonymous
04/11/2023 22:55
Subject: Re:Are Ivies still enrolling the best students? Yes, but maybe not undergrads
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If you get a good undergraduate degree (i.e Econ at Williams or Amherst, Wharton undergrad) you won’t need to get another degree.
This. Who wants to go to grad school? Ick.
Hmm. I have worked at the IMF and the World Bank, and you won’t find more than a handful of people in either without a graduate degree, most of them PhDs. So it depends a lot on what you want to do.
Noted. If I ever want to rape and pillage third world countries' economies, I'll sign up for grad school.
Hahhahahahahahaha. Well played..
Anonymous
04/11/2023 22:43
Subject: Re:Are Ivies still enrolling the best students? Yes, but maybe not undergrads
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If you get a good undergraduate degree (i.e Econ at Williams or Amherst, Wharton undergrad) you won’t need to get another degree.
Maybe for Econ but not true for a lot of majors.
Also, on this board we lump law and medicine into “grad school”. Helpful to remember before you insult people’s choices here.
Law degrees out outside T14 are useless.
Any degree is useless if it’s wasted on someone as clueless as a lot of the people in this thread.
Anonymous
04/11/2023 22:34
Subject: Re:Are Ivies still enrolling the best students? Yes, but maybe not undergrads
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If you get a good undergraduate degree (i.e Econ at Williams or Amherst, Wharton undergrad) you won’t need to get another degree.
Maybe for Econ but not true for a lot of majors.
Also, on this board we lump law and medicine into “grad school”. Helpful to remember before you insult people’s choices here.
Law degrees out outside T14 are useless.
Anonymous
04/11/2023 22:32
Subject: Re:Are Ivies still enrolling the best students? Yes, but maybe not undergrads
Anonymous wrote:If you get a good undergraduate degree (i.e Econ at Williams or Amherst, Wharton undergrad) you won’t need to get another degree.
Maybe for Econ but not true for a lot of majors.
Also, on this board we lump law and medicine into “grad school”. Helpful to remember before you insult people’s choices here.
Anonymous
04/11/2023 22:28
Subject: Re:Are Ivies still enrolling the best students? Yes, but maybe not undergrads
Anonymous wrote:Princeton is seriously over-rated. Full of legacy admits, many of whom would not get into other top schools. This will catch up with them, the brand I mean.
This. I’ve never heard of anyone actually attending Princeton. I know kids at every other Ivy but no one ever gets in. It’s all for rich and connected kids.
Anonymous
04/11/2023 22:00
Subject: Re:Are Ivies still enrolling the best students? Yes, but maybe not undergrads
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If you get a good undergraduate degree (i.e Econ at Williams or Amherst, Wharton undergrad) you won’t need to get another degree.
This. Who wants to go to grad school? Ick.
Hmm. I have worked at the IMF and the World Bank, and you won’t find more than a handful of people in either without a graduate degree, most of them PhDs. So it depends a lot on what you want to do.
Noted. If I ever want to rape and pillage third world countries' economies, I'll sign up for grad school.
Anonymous
04/11/2023 21:57
Subject: Re:Are Ivies still enrolling the best students? Yes, but maybe not undergrads
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If you get a good undergraduate degree (i.e Econ at Williams or Amherst, Wharton undergrad) you won’t need to get another degree.
This. Who wants to go to grad school? Ick.
Hmm. I have worked at the IMF and the World Bank, and you won’t find more than a handful of people in either without a graduate degree, most of them PhDs. So it depends a lot on what you want to do.
Anonymous
04/11/2023 21:55
Subject: Re:Are Ivies still enrolling the best students? Yes, but maybe not undergrads
Princeton is seriously over-rated. Full of legacy admits, many of whom would not get into other top schools. This will catch up with them, the brand I mean.
Anonymous
04/11/2023 21:52
Subject: Re:Are Ivies still enrolling the best students? Yes, but maybe not undergrads
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If you get a good undergraduate degree (i.e Econ at Williams or Amherst, Wharton undergrad) you won’t need to get another degree.
This. Who wants to go to grad school? Ick.
99% of grad programs are useless for low employment prospects, high debt & high opportunity cost. If you’re independently wealthy, go for it!
Anonymous
04/11/2023 21:50
Subject: Re:Are Ivies still enrolling the best students? Yes, but maybe not undergrads
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Columbia has a ton of in-person degree-mill, cash-cow master’s programs that admit anyone. It also has multiple “revenue streams” like the “General Studies” program that gives students little FA & treats them second class.
Penn, Columbia, Cornell and Harvard all have a bunch of bullsh*t online master’s degrees that cost an arm & leg. Harvard & Penn have “extension schools.”
However, I’ve heard Princeton hasn’t bought into any of that crap. They are the strictest on who is allowed to even audit a class.
OH lord, Jesus - thank Christ! For real.
Yes, thank them for keeping their standards high instead of diluting their brand with a bunch of cash cow revenue streams like the other Ivies have.
This is why I’ve always said Princeton is the best undergrad school in the US by a mile. There’s no BS there, high academic standards, and everything they do is top class with full focus. Even Harvard has issues with too much focus on grad students and random programs. Also Princeton has the largest endowment per student by a lot.
Anonymous
04/11/2023 21:49
Subject: Re:Are Ivies still enrolling the best students? Yes, but maybe not undergrads
Anonymous wrote:If you get a good undergraduate degree (i.e Econ at Williams or Amherst, Wharton undergrad) you won’t need to get another degree.
This. Who wants to go to grad school? Ick.