Anonymous
Post 04/10/2023 17:17     Subject: Occidental
We toured this past weekend. No pronouns and nothing racial mentioned.

The AO was quite new and had graduated Oxy a few years earlier. A lot of the focus of the talk seemed to be about equanimity. If you don't have a car you can get a zip car on campus. There's a shuttle, there are bikes. You can borrow electronic equipment, including game consoles.
Anonymous
Post 04/10/2023 16:21     Subject: Occidental
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I wanted my kid to apply. On our visit last year, admissions officer spent first 20 min of her talk focused on why white supremacy had changed the education system and that Oxy was fighting it. Entire room was white families. One asian family.

I get it / we are at the most progressive of the Big 3. I love a lot about Oxy. My kid was so turned off by that AO that they refused to seriously consider Oxy at the end.

Sort of bummed me out. B/c it would have been a good target for kid who needed more targets.

And I’m not exaggerating about the 20 min lecture on white supremacy to start the AO q&a.


We were just at Oxy this week for a tour. Nothing like this happened for us.


PP here. Yeah I begged my kid to overlook it. It was an AO new to the school and her first few months on the job. Just got unlucky with that (though she’s entitled to her opinion). Like when you get unlucky with bad weather or bad tour guide or something on a tour and kid ends up opposed to the school.

The student guides also gave their pronouns. Again I’m not trying to incite on this thread but that’s what happened to us. Last august.


Every school these days on the coasts has the tour guides giving pronouns. That is not unusual at all.


This isn't limited to the coasts. It's not the 1970s and no cable.
Anonymous
Post 04/10/2023 16:20     Subject: Occidental
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I wanted my kid to apply. On our visit last year, admissions officer spent first 20 min of her talk focused on why white supremacy had changed the education system and that Oxy was fighting it. Entire room was white families. One asian family.

I get it / we are at the most progressive of the Big 3. I love a lot about Oxy. My kid was so turned off by that AO that they refused to seriously consider Oxy at the end.

Sort of bummed me out. B/c it would have been a good target for kid who needed more targets.

And I’m not exaggerating about the 20 min lecture on white supremacy to start the AO q&a.


We were just at Oxy this week for a tour. Nothing like this happened for us.


PP here. Yeah I begged my kid to overlook it. It was an AO new to the school and her first few months on the job. Just got unlucky with that (though she’s entitled to her opinion). Like when you get unlucky with bad weather or bad tour guide or something on a tour and kid ends up opposed to the school.

The student guides also gave their pronouns. Again I’m not trying to incite on this thread but that’s what happened to us. Last august.


If that is your first experience of students using pronouns, then you do not get out much and are completely unfamiliar with how your kids comport themselves in group meetings.
Anonymous
Post 04/10/2023 16:08     Subject: Occidental
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I wanted my kid to apply. On our visit last year, admissions officer spent first 20 min of her talk focused on why white supremacy had changed the education system and that Oxy was fighting it. Entire room was white families. One asian family.

I get it / we are at the most progressive of the Big 3. I love a lot about Oxy. My kid was so turned off by that AO that they refused to seriously consider Oxy at the end.

Sort of bummed me out. B/c it would have been a good target for kid who needed more targets.

And I’m not exaggerating about the 20 min lecture on white supremacy to start the AO q&a.


We were just at Oxy this week for a tour. Nothing like this happened for us.


PP here. Yeah I begged my kid to overlook it. It was an AO new to the school and her first few months on the job. Just got unlucky with that (though she’s entitled to her opinion). Like when you get unlucky with bad weather or bad tour guide or something on a tour and kid ends up opposed to the school.

The student guides also gave their pronouns. Again I’m not trying to incite on this thread but that’s what happened to us. Last august.



I'm an Alum. The pronoun things are done everywhere now. But that AO's statement does reflect the liberal slant of the school and the fact that the school does nothing about it should be a concern. Some AOs are very much SJW fighting for racial equity (it's in their AO bios) or other phrases to indicate that. It was a turn-off for my children; they did not apply. And it's been a concern of the alums I know. Just pick up any issue of the Occidental - it's all about racial equity, diversity, SJW, etc.
Anonymous
Post 04/02/2023 16:07     Subject: Occidental
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I wanted my kid to apply. On our visit last year, admissions officer spent first 20 min of her talk focused on why white supremacy had changed the education system and that Oxy was fighting it. Entire room was white families. One asian family.

I get it / we are at the most progressive of the Big 3. I love a lot about Oxy. My kid was so turned off by that AO that they refused to seriously consider Oxy at the end.

Sort of bummed me out. B/c it would have been a good target for kid who needed more targets.

And I’m not exaggerating about the 20 min lecture on white supremacy to start the AO q&a.


We were just at Oxy this week for a tour. Nothing like this happened for us.


PP here. Yeah I begged my kid to overlook it. It was an AO new to the school and her first few months on the job. Just got unlucky with that (though she’s entitled to her opinion). Like when you get unlucky with bad weather or bad tour guide or something on a tour and kid ends up opposed to the school.

The student guides also gave their pronouns. Again I’m not trying to incite on this thread but that’s what happened to us. Last august.


Every school these days on the coasts has the tour guides giving pronouns. That is not unusual at all.


+1 Every college tour we went on last year on both coasts & Minnesota too, featured student guides and AOs (at least those under the age of about 60) giving their pronouns.

(And it takes about three seconds to say something like "he/him," so I don't know why it'd bother anyone.)


NP, agree it’s the norm on many campuses. I’m GenX and work at a university and have my pronouns in my email signature.
Anonymous
Post 04/02/2023 00:55     Subject: Occidental
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I wanted my kid to apply. On our visit last year, admissions officer spent first 20 min of her talk focused on why white supremacy had changed the education system and that Oxy was fighting it. Entire room was white families. One asian family.

I get it / we are at the most progressive of the Big 3. I love a lot about Oxy. My kid was so turned off by that AO that they refused to seriously consider Oxy at the end.

Sort of bummed me out. B/c it would have been a good target for kid who needed more targets.

And I’m not exaggerating about the 20 min lecture on white supremacy to start the AO q&a.


We were just at Oxy this week for a tour. Nothing like this happened for us.


PP here. Yeah I begged my kid to overlook it. It was an AO new to the school and her first few months on the job. Just got unlucky with that (though she’s entitled to her opinion). Like when you get unlucky with bad weather or bad tour guide or something on a tour and kid ends up opposed to the school.

The student guides also gave their pronouns. Again I’m not trying to incite on this thread but that’s what happened to us. Last august.


Every school these days on the coasts has the tour guides giving pronouns. That is not unusual at all.


+1 Every college tour we went on last year on both coasts & Minnesota too, featured student guides and AOs (at least those under the age of about 60) giving their pronouns.

(And it takes about three seconds to say something like "he/him," so I don't know why it'd bother anyone.)
Anonymous
Post 04/01/2023 23:27     Subject: Occidental
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I wanted my kid to apply. On our visit last year, admissions officer spent first 20 min of her talk focused on why white supremacy had changed the education system and that Oxy was fighting it. Entire room was white families. One asian family.

I get it / we are at the most progressive of the Big 3. I love a lot about Oxy. My kid was so turned off by that AO that they refused to seriously consider Oxy at the end.

Sort of bummed me out. B/c it would have been a good target for kid who needed more targets.

And I’m not exaggerating about the 20 min lecture on white supremacy to start the AO q&a.


We were just at Oxy this week for a tour. Nothing like this happened for us.


PP here. Yeah I begged my kid to overlook it. It was an AO new to the school and her first few months on the job. Just got unlucky with that (though she’s entitled to her opinion). Like when you get unlucky with bad weather or bad tour guide or something on a tour and kid ends up opposed to the school.

The student guides also gave their pronouns. Again I’m not trying to incite on this thread but that’s what happened to us. Last august.


Every school these days on the coasts has the tour guides giving pronouns. That is not unusual at all.
Anonymous
Post 04/01/2023 23:16     Subject: Occidental
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I wanted my kid to apply. On our visit last year, admissions officer spent first 20 min of her talk focused on why white supremacy had changed the education system and that Oxy was fighting it. Entire room was white families. One asian family.

I get it / we are at the most progressive of the Big 3. I love a lot about Oxy. My kid was so turned off by that AO that they refused to seriously consider Oxy at the end.

Sort of bummed me out. B/c it would have been a good target for kid who needed more targets.

And I’m not exaggerating about the 20 min lecture on white supremacy to start the AO q&a.


We were just at Oxy this week for a tour. Nothing like this happened for us.


PP here. Yeah I begged my kid to overlook it. It was an AO new to the school and her first few months on the job. Just got unlucky with that (though she’s entitled to her opinion). Like when you get unlucky with bad weather or bad tour guide or something on a tour and kid ends up opposed to the school.

The student guides also gave their pronouns. Again I’m not trying to incite on this thread but that’s what happened to us. Last august.
Anonymous
Post 04/01/2023 22:58     Subject: Occidental
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I wanted my kid to apply. On our visit last year, admissions officer spent first 20 min of her talk focused on why white supremacy had changed the education system and that Oxy was fighting it. Entire room was white families. One asian family.

I get it / we are at the most progressive of the Big 3. I love a lot about Oxy. My kid was so turned off by that AO that they refused to seriously consider Oxy at the end.

Sort of bummed me out. B/c it would have been a good target for kid who needed more targets.

And I’m not exaggerating about the 20 min lecture on white supremacy to start the AO q&a.


We had nothing remotely like that when we visited oxy last year.


We also did not have this experience on our tour (or since in any communications). Not a single mention of any social or political topic.

We loved the school and DC was accepted but has decided to go elsewhere.
Anonymous
Post 04/01/2023 22:37     Subject: Re:Occidental
I love LA. Gotta love Oxy
Anonymous
Post 04/01/2023 22:35     Subject: Occidental
Anonymous wrote:I wanted my kid to apply. On our visit last year, admissions officer spent first 20 min of her talk focused on why white supremacy had changed the education system and that Oxy was fighting it. Entire room was white families. One asian family.

I get it / we are at the most progressive of the Big 3. I love a lot about Oxy. My kid was so turned off by that AO that they refused to seriously consider Oxy at the end.

Sort of bummed me out. B/c it would have been a good target for kid who needed more targets.

And I’m not exaggerating about the 20 min lecture on white supremacy to start the AO q&a.


We were just at Oxy this week for a tour. Nothing like this happened for us.
Anonymous
Post 04/01/2023 22:13     Subject: Occidental
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I wanted my kid to apply. On our visit last year, admissions officer spent first 20 min of her talk focused on why white supremacy had changed the education system and that Oxy was fighting it. Entire room was white families. One asian family.

I get it / we are at the most progressive of the Big 3. I love a lot about Oxy. My kid was so turned off by that AO that they refused to seriously consider Oxy at the end.

Sort of bummed me out. B/c it would have been a good target for kid who needed more targets.

And I’m not exaggerating about the 20 min lecture on white supremacy to start the AO q&a.


We had nothing remotely like that when we visited oxy last year.


Four years for us, but also nothing of the sort.
Anonymous
Post 04/01/2023 22:11     Subject: Occidental
Anonymous wrote:I wanted my kid to apply. On our visit last year, admissions officer spent first 20 min of her talk focused on why white supremacy had changed the education system and that Oxy was fighting it. Entire room was white families. One asian family.

I get it / we are at the most progressive of the Big 3. I love a lot about Oxy. My kid was so turned off by that AO that they refused to seriously consider Oxy at the end.

Sort of bummed me out. B/c it would have been a good target for kid who needed more targets.

And I’m not exaggerating about the 20 min lecture on white supremacy to start the AO q&a.


We had nothing remotely like that when we visited oxy last year.
Anonymous
Post 04/01/2023 19:15     Subject: Occidental
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:A close friend of my daughter’s was completely shut out in admissions last year, Occidental was her safety. She was beside herself for month and absolutely dreaded going. Fast forward a year and she truly couldn’t be happier. She loves the school and the people and wouldn’t want to be anywhere else.


38% admissions rate is not a safety for anyone, not any more


Yeah: a target, maybe, but not safety. My kid was above Oxy's 75% mark for stats. We visited in person, and I thought his Oxy-specific essays were pretty good. Still was rejected. We were pretty impressed by Oxy on the tour, and thought it'd be a great LAC option.
Anonymous
Post 04/01/2023 19:05     Subject: Occidental
I wanted my kid to apply. On our visit last year, admissions officer spent first 20 min of her talk focused on why white supremacy had changed the education system and that Oxy was fighting it. Entire room was white families. One asian family.

I get it / we are at the most progressive of the Big 3. I love a lot about Oxy. My kid was so turned off by that AO that they refused to seriously consider Oxy at the end.

Sort of bummed me out. B/c it would have been a good target for kid who needed more targets.

And I’m not exaggerating about the 20 min lecture on white supremacy to start the AO q&a.