Anonymous
03/30/2023 12:49
Subject: Re:Who best exemplifies the political character of Montgomery County?
There is probably a lane somewhere for someone to be
-solidly left on most social issues (but not their entire brand, "overly woke posturing", etc
-pro business, growth, YIMBY, but not annoying or single issue about it
-fund MCPS well (hint- we already do), but control the bloat of admin and central office
but most importantly do the above with some semblance of getting crime in order.
The average moco resident is left to center left, but people everywhere value public safety.
-solidly left on most social issues (but not their entire brand, "overly woke posturing", etc
-pro business, growth, YIMBY, but not annoying or single issue about it
-fund MCPS well (hint- we already do), but control the bloat of admin and central office
but most importantly do the above with some semblance of getting crime in order.
The average moco resident is left to center left, but people everywhere value public safety.
Anonymous
03/30/2023 12:18
Subject: Re:Who best exemplifies the political character of Montgomery County?
In the more recent past it was a Chris Van Hollen/Jamie Raskin mix.
Now? The “Woke” technocrat/YIMBY like Hans Riemer/Dan Reed/GGWash types are gaining a lot of traction. However, IMO that’s an overreaction by voters to stick it to the conservatives and their recent nonsense. Hopefully we will get back to a more moderate D voter selection the next time around. I think that people in MoCo will quickly tire of the current progressive agenda.
Now? The “Woke” technocrat/YIMBY like Hans Riemer/Dan Reed/GGWash types are gaining a lot of traction. However, IMO that’s an overreaction by voters to stick it to the conservatives and their recent nonsense. Hopefully we will get back to a more moderate D voter selection the next time around. I think that people in MoCo will quickly tire of the current progressive agenda.
Anonymous
03/30/2023 11:30
Subject: Who best exemplifies the political character of Montgomery County?
Mao Zedong would be a really good “who” exemplifies the county politics
Anonymous
03/30/2023 11:28
Subject: Re:Who best exemplifies the political character of Montgomery County?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:David Blair was the county's best shot by far..but nobody votes in the election so we are stuck with Marc.
Most of Moco is Center Left and pro-business.
161,740 people voted for county executive in the primary.
Do you think that is a lot?
I believe that's only ~1/3 of the voting age population.
It's 161,740 people more than nobody.
Right but even if 50% voted, the county would be a different (IMO, better) place. The voting base will skew far to the left due to SS, Takoma, etc.
50% voted in the general election, and here we are!
Dem primary - the general election is stupid. The primary is the actual election. It will never go R.
Elrich won by 32 votes..only 110k votes between those two.
Anonymous
03/30/2023 11:23
Subject: Re:Who best exemplifies the political character of Montgomery County?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:David Blair was the county's best shot by far..but nobody votes in the election so we are stuck with Marc.
Most of Moco is Center Left and pro-business.
161,740 people voted for county executive in the primary.
Do you think that is a lot?
I believe that's only ~1/3 of the voting age population.
It's 161,740 people more than nobody.
Right but even if 50% voted, the county would be a different (IMO, better) place. The voting base will skew far to the left due to SS, Takoma, etc.
50% voted in the general election, and here we are!
Anonymous
03/30/2023 11:16
Subject: Re:Who best exemplifies the political character of Montgomery County?
Anonymous wrote:David Blair was the county's best shot by far..but nobody votes in the election so we are stuck with Marc.
Most of Moco is Center Left and pro-business.
This
Anonymous
03/30/2023 11:15
Subject: Who best exemplifies the political character of Montgomery County?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There's nothing "super progressive" or "alt-left" (whatever that even means) about Elrich. He's not even progressive. With a few exceptions, he's quite conservative, in the traditional sense of the word: conserving things the way they are now.
Also, Greater Greater Washington is not a person.
Also, there are over 1.1 million people in Montgomery County. The idea that there is one person who represents the political views of 1.1 million people is foolish. Like asking "Who best represents the political culture of Alaska or Delaware?"
This answer tells OP everything they need to know: “Elrich is a conservative.” That’s the modal political view in MoCo IMO.
I'm old enough to remember when "conservative" meant "a person who doesn't want things to change" and/or "a person who wants to conserve things" (for example, the environment), instead of "a person who wants to radically change basically everything about America in order to make it "great again"."
But, I think you need to keep up with the times. Today, the definition of "conservative" politically means "low taxes, control women's bodies, anti-lgbtq for everything, build a wall, kick out the illegals, drill baby drill, bring back the coal mines", ie, let's get back to the good ol' days of the 1950s when jobs were plentiful for the white men, and you could have a nice middle class life being a brick layer, and when we didn't have so many immigrants, and WASP straight people were in charge.
-a 52 yr old former conservative
No that’s the definition of alt right not conservative
- 56 yo conservative who believes in all the conservative values defined by educators not grifters
Anonymous
03/30/2023 11:12
Subject: Re:Who best exemplifies the political character of Montgomery County?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:David Blair was the county's best shot by far..but nobody votes in the election so we are stuck with Marc.
Most of Moco is Center Left and pro-business.
161,740 people voted for county executive in the primary.
Do you think that is a lot?
I believe that's only ~1/3 of the voting age population.
It's 161,740 people more than nobody.
Right but even if 50% voted, the county would be a different (IMO, better) place. The voting base will skew far to the left due to SS, Takoma, etc.
Anonymous
03/30/2023 11:01
Subject: Re:Who best exemplifies the political character of Montgomery County?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:David Blair was the county's best shot by far..but nobody votes in the election so we are stuck with Marc.
Most of Moco is Center Left and pro-business.
161,740 people voted for county executive in the primary.
Do you think that is a lot?
I believe that's only ~1/3 of the voting age population.
It's 161,740 people more than nobody.
Anonymous
03/30/2023 10:56
Subject: Re:Who best exemplifies the political character of Montgomery County?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:David Blair was the county's best shot by far..but nobody votes in the election so we are stuck with Marc.
Most of Moco is Center Left and pro-business.
161,740 people voted for county executive in the primary.
Do you think that is a lot?
I believe that's only ~1/3 of the voting age population.
Anonymous
03/30/2023 10:55
Subject: Who best exemplifies the political character of Montgomery County?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There's nothing "super progressive" or "alt-left" (whatever that even means) about Elrich. He's not even progressive. With a few exceptions, he's quite conservative, in the traditional sense of the word: conserving things the way they are now.
Also, Greater Greater Washington is not a person.
Also, there are over 1.1 million people in Montgomery County. The idea that there is one person who represents the political views of 1.1 million people is foolish. Like asking "Who best represents the political culture of Alaska or Delaware?"
Yeah, that Net Zero is a conservative idea.
If you're trying to conserve the planet we live on? Yes, it is.
Anonymous
03/30/2023 10:55
Subject: Re:Who best exemplifies the political character of Montgomery County?
Anonymous wrote:David Blair was the county's best shot by far..but nobody votes in the election so we are stuck with Marc.
Most of Moco is Center Left and pro-business.
161,740 people voted for county executive in the primary.
Anonymous
03/30/2023 10:40
Subject: Who best exemplifies the political character of Montgomery County?
Anonymous wrote:There's nothing "super progressive" or "alt-left" (whatever that even means) about Elrich. He's not even progressive. With a few exceptions, he's quite conservative, in the traditional sense of the word: conserving things the way they are now.
Also, Greater Greater Washington is not a person.
Also, there are over 1.1 million people in Montgomery County. The idea that there is one person who represents the political views of 1.1 million people is foolish. Like asking "Who best represents the political culture of Alaska or Delaware?"
Yeah, that Net Zero is a conservative idea.
Anonymous
03/30/2023 10:37
Subject: Re:Who best exemplifies the political character of Montgomery County?
David Blair was the county's best shot by far..but nobody votes in the election so we are stuck with Marc.
Most of Moco is Center Left and pro-business.
Most of Moco is Center Left and pro-business.
Anonymous
03/30/2023 10:12
Subject: Who best exemplifies the political character of Montgomery County?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There's nothing "super progressive" or "alt-left" (whatever that even means) about Elrich. He's not even progressive. With a few exceptions, he's quite conservative, in the traditional sense of the word: conserving things the way they are now.
Also, Greater Greater Washington is not a person.
Also, there are over 1.1 million people in Montgomery County. The idea that there is one person who represents the political views of 1.1 million people is foolish. Like asking "Who best represents the political culture of Alaska or Delaware?"
I'm OP and I didn't want to digress too much in defining Elrich because I want to get back to the original question, but some friends and I were talking about it and came up with that "alt-left" descriptor for Elrich. In horseshoe theory, far-left populists mirror far-right populists. Elrich is a "stick-it-to-the-Man" contrarian even if the results end up actually regressive. To put it in popular political culture, Elrich is less an MSNBC or Pod Save America liberal, in so much as a Chapo Trap House, The GrayZone, Jimmy Dore type contrarian. I actually remember a CTH podcast about how much they hate YIMBYs for being "neoliberal shills."
IMHO I have come across a lot of people in MoCo (Silver Spring mostly) with that kind of politics, but most people in the county seem to be a generic kind of anti-Trump resistance liberal.
He is definitely a contrarian, as shown by all of those 8-1 Council votes. However, he consistently supports affluent haves (for example, people in Bethesda who don't want taller buildings or fewer parking lots or more apartments or ADUs or the Purple Line or...), and if they're not the Man, who is?
The Evil Developers™ and Big Corporations. Obviously.