Anonymous
Post 03/28/2023 20:54     Subject: Deleted posts in Nashville shooting thread

Anonymous wrote:ii think you should delete posts where posters "hope the next shooter goes to a school full of you republicans' kids.

if people can't behave better than that, delete the whole thread.

disgusting.

No one said that.
Anonymous
Post 03/28/2023 20:50     Subject: Deleted posts in Nashville shooting thread

ii think you should delete posts where posters "hope the next shooter goes to a school full of you republicans' kids.

if people can't behave better than that, delete the whole thread.

disgusting.
Anonymous
Post 03/28/2023 20:36     Subject: Deleted posts in Nashville shooting thread

You could refer to the shooter by name. Seems that information is public knowledge.
Anonymous
Post 03/28/2023 17:25     Subject: Deleted posts in Nashville shooting thread

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So how do we refer to or discuss this person if we can’t use any pronouns, don’t know whether the correct name is Audrey or Aiden (or something else), and they are dead so we can’t ask them what their gender is? Seems problematic.


How about not referring to them at all, or just going by “the shooter” or “the murderer”.


You just used a pronoun!!
Anonymous
Post 03/28/2023 16:59     Subject: Deleted posts in Nashville shooting thread

Anonymous wrote:So how do we refer to or discuss this person if we can’t use any pronouns, don’t know whether the correct name is Audrey or Aiden (or something else), and they are dead so we can’t ask them what their gender is? Seems problematic.


How about not referring to them at all, or just going by “the shooter” or “the murderer”.
jsteele
Post 03/28/2023 16:45     Subject: Deleted posts in Nashville shooting thread

Anonymous wrote:So how do we refer to or discuss this person if we can’t use any pronouns, don’t know whether the correct name is Audrey or Aiden (or something else), and they are dead so we can’t ask them what their gender is? Seems problematic.


I agree. It is problematic.
Anonymous
Post 03/28/2023 16:36     Subject: Deleted posts in Nashville shooting thread

So how do we refer to or discuss this person if we can’t use any pronouns, don’t know whether the correct name is Audrey or Aiden (or something else), and they are dead so we can’t ask them what their gender is? Seems problematic.
jsteele
Post 03/28/2023 16:27     Subject: Re:Deleted posts in Nashville shooting thread

More on this topic. The Trans Journalists Association put out this statement:

https://newsletter.transjournalists.org/tja-statement-on-the-covenant-school-shooting/

Which partially says:

The TJA's guidance is to not assume someone is cisgender or transgender based on their appearance, gender presentation, or pronouns. Police reports, public documents, or statements from family members can likewise incorrectly identify a person's gender. Even social media profiles can be misleading, outdated or incomplete.


So, going by this guidance, we can't make any determination about the shooter's gender. In that case, I am not sure if we can use any pronouns with regard to the person.

Note, I have never heard of the Trans Journalists Association until just now and have no idea if it is credible and/or representative. But I learned about this statement via a journalist that I trust and who has credibility with the trans community.