Anonymous wrote:I still don’t understand the reference to Algebra 1 and the CogAT. You need to be on the Advanced Math track to take the IOWA and the 7th Grade Math SOL in 6th to have the option to take Algebra 1 in 7th grade. It doesn’t have anything to do with the CogAT. You can be in Advanced Math without being in Level IV AAP. So if someone told you that, that’s not the case.

They're talking about algebra 1 in 6th, you're talking about algebra 1 in 7th.

Anonymous wrote:I was told that kids need to have a 145 out of 160 in second grade Cogat Q to take Algebra 1 in 6th grade. However, DD got 139 w/o answering any question wrong in her year. Is there a year calibration on Cogat?

You can ask county for a free retake. Otherwise go to GMU and get it done there.

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Anonymous wrote:Your child is in second grade and you are already convinced they are gifted enough and driven enough that they need to skip three years of math, that the typical path for acceleration definitely won't meet their needs. It is a tragedy they did not score high enough to prove this, an injustice, no, the test must be wrong! I'm sure you will tell us all about how they are pushing for this, the child is just super self motivated and ravenous to do more and more advanced math and you are only trying to support their passion.

140 is a hard cap. The county doesn't budge on it even with teacher recommendations. Your kid does not need to skip three years of math. I promise.

The three year reference assumes a kid take Algebra 1 in 9th grade. The majority of kids take Algebra 1 by 8th grade in DMV and many Math 8 topics are covered in earlier years. So "skip three years of math" is an overstatement.

Do you have a source for this?

VDOE. For FCPS, 59% of 8th graders who took SOLs last year, took Algebra 1 or higher. For LCPS, 60%. LCPS used to be higher -- in mid 70% range. Hard to know if last year's LCPS drop was an aberration or not. In case OP is interested, 2% of FCPS 8th grade SOL takers took the Algebra 2 SOL.
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Anonymous wrote:Your child is in second grade and you are already convinced they are gifted enough and driven enough that they need to skip three years of math, that the typical path for acceleration definitely won't meet their needs. It is a tragedy they did not score high enough to prove this, an injustice, no, the test must be wrong! I'm sure you will tell us all about how they are pushing for this, the child is just super self motivated and ravenous to do more and more advanced math and you are only trying to support their passion.

140 is a hard cap. The county doesn't budge on it even with teacher recommendations. Your kid does not need to skip three years of math. I promise.

The three year reference assumes a kid take Algebra 1 in 9th grade. The majority of kids take Algebra 1 by 8th grade in DMV and many Math 8 topics are covered in earlier years. So "skip three years of math" is an overstatement.

Do you have a source for this?

Anonymous wrote:Your child is in second grade and you are already convinced they are gifted enough and driven enough that they need to skip three years of math, that the typical path for acceleration definitely won't meet their needs. It is a tragedy they did not score high enough to prove this, an injustice, no, the test must be wrong! I'm sure you will tell us all about how they are pushing for this, the child is just super self motivated and ravenous to do more and more advanced math and you are only trying to support their passion.

140 is a hard cap. The county doesn't budge on it even with teacher recommendations. Your kid does not need to skip three years of math. I promise.

The three year reference assumes a kid take Algebra 1 in 9th grade. The majority of kids take Algebra 1 by 8th grade in DMV and many Math 8 topics are covered in earlier years. So "skip three years of math" is an overstatement.

Anonymous wrote:Your child is in second grade and you are already convinced they are gifted enough and driven enough that they need to skip three years of math, that the typical path for acceleration definitely won't meet their needs. It is a tragedy they did not score high enough to prove this, an injustice, no, the test must be wrong! I'm sure you will tell us all about how they are pushing for this, the child is just super self motivated and ravenous to do more and more advanced math and you are only trying to support their passion.

140 is a hard cap. The county doesn't budge on it even with teacher recommendations. Your kid does not need to skip three years of math. I promise.

That's not true. If OP's kid meets the SOL requirement and the teacher strongly feels like the kid should be skipped ahead, they can administer additional tests. It should be easy to appeal one's way in with a perfect score on the CogAT Q, even if the norming made the score below the threshold level. OP still needs to wait until the end of 4th grade to see whether to pursue an additional skip in math.

Also, OP, which score was the 139? CogAT should provide 3 differently normed scores. One is age adjusted. One is grade normed. One is locally normed. The one you want is the age adjusted one, which should be marked as the SAS. I'm still finding it hard to believe that a perfect Q section could result in a sub 140 score for a non redshirted child. My kid (april birthday) had all of the problems correct and got a 149 several years ago.