Anonymous
03/24/2023 19:49
Subject: Top Colleges
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Elite:
HYPSM + Ivies
Chicago
Duke
Northwestern
Caltech
Johns Hopkins
Williams
Amherst
That's it. The rest of the top 20-30 are "top schools" but I would not categorize them as elite.
Skip Duke and Hopkins and I'll buy it.
and cmon folks, deep down no one really considers Williams or Amherst elite. Great schools but meh prestige. Williams alumns always have to
mention LAC ranking when explaining where they went
Nope. Not in my world.
Nor mine
Anonymous
03/24/2023 19:41
Subject: Top Colleges
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Elite:
HYPSM + Ivies
Chicago
Duke
Northwestern
Caltech
Johns Hopkins
Williams
Amherst
That's it. The rest of the top 20-30 are "top schools" but I would not categorize them as elite.
Remove Northwestern from "elite."
Then you need to eliminate half of the Ivy League schools, Johns Hopkins, Williams, & Amherst as well.
That’s the point isn’t it. Only several are really elite. The rest are good but not that meaningfully distinguishable from number 50+ ranked college.
exactly is Amherst really much different than Vassar in terms of prestige?
Anonymous
03/24/2023 19:41
Subject: Top Colleges
Anonymous wrote:Elite:
HYPSM + Ivies
Chicago
Duke
Northwestern
Caltech
Johns Hopkins
Williams
Amherst
That's it. The rest of the top 20-30 are "top schools" but I would not categorize them as elite.
Exchange Harvard with Duke
Anonymous
03/24/2023 19:36
Subject: Re:Top Colleges
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'm a professor, when I look at grad school apps (which I receive filtered already for our GPA/score cut-offs), I would say there are roughly a group of 50 National Universities and 50 LACs that overlap but don't fully match the USNWR rankings that I treat mentally equivalent in terms of knowing the schools select strong students, the quality of education students received has prepared them well and that a high GPA from their school is meaningful. When I get an application outside those schools, I don't discount it, but I dig into other aspects of the application with greater scrutiny to get a read on academic preparation.
Likely my list of top colleges differs from that of entry-level employers as we are looking for different things.
honestly would be very interested in hearing your list.
+1 to that.
Anonymous
03/24/2023 19:35
Subject: Top Colleges
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Elite:
HYPSM + Ivies
Chicago
Duke
Northwestern
Caltech
Johns Hopkins
Williams
Amherst
That's it. The rest of the top 20-30 are "top schools" but I would not categorize them as elite.
Remove Northwestern from "elite."
Then you need to eliminate half of the Ivy League schools, Johns Hopkins, Williams, & Amherst as well.
That’s the point isn’t it. Only several are really elite. The rest are good but not that meaningfully distinguishable from number 50+ ranked college.
Anonymous
03/24/2023 19:32
Subject: Top Colleges
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Elite:
HYPSM + Ivies
Chicago
Duke
Northwestern
Caltech
Johns Hopkins
Williams
Amherst
That's it. The rest of the top 20-30 are "top schools" but I would not categorize them as elite.
Remove Northwestern from "elite."
Then you need to eliminate half of the Ivy League schools, Johns Hopkins, Williams, & Amherst as well.
Anonymous
03/24/2023 19:31
Subject: Re:Top Colleges
Anonymous wrote:I'm a professor, when I look at grad school apps (which I receive filtered already for our GPA/score cut-offs), I would say there are roughly a group of 50 National Universities and 50 LACs that overlap but don't fully match the USNWR rankings that I treat mentally equivalent in terms of knowing the schools select strong students, the quality of education students received has prepared them well and that a high GPA from their school is meaningful. When I get an application outside those schools, I don't discount it, but I dig into other aspects of the application with greater scrutiny to get a read on academic preparation.
Likely my list of top colleges differs from that of entry-level employers as we are looking for different things.
What is interesting to me about this is that it basically argues a case for if one isn’t going to HYPS, then go to the state uni (assuming it’s a top 50 in your state) or any uni in the 30-50 range where it is probably a lot easier to graduate with a high GPA than say Wash U.
Anonymous
03/24/2023 19:31
Subject: Top Colleges
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Elite:
HYPSM + Ivies
Chicago
Duke
Northwestern
Caltech
Johns Hopkins
Williams
Amherst
That's it. The rest of the top 20-30 are "top schools" but I would not categorize them as elite.
Remove Northwestern from "elite."
and Cornell. Kinda torn on the two SLACs though
Anonymous
03/24/2023 19:26
Subject: Top Colleges
Anonymous wrote:Elite:
HYPSM + Ivies
Chicago
Duke
Northwestern
Caltech
Johns Hopkins
Williams
Amherst
That's it. The rest of the top 20-30 are "top schools" but I would not categorize them as elite.
Remove Northwestern from "elite."
Anonymous
03/24/2023 19:26
Subject: Top Colleges
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Elite:
HYPSM + Ivies
Chicago
Duke
Northwestern
Caltech
Johns Hopkins
Williams
Amherst
That's it. The rest of the top 20-30 are "top schools" but I would not categorize them as elite.
Skip Duke and Hopkins and I'll buy it.[/quote
I’m from the 80s/early 90s. Northwestern wouldn’t be on that list.
Anonymous
03/24/2023 19:23
Subject: Re:Top Colleges
Anonymous wrote:I'm a professor, when I look at grad school apps (which I receive filtered already for our GPA/score cut-offs), I would say there are roughly a group of 50 National Universities and 50 LACs that overlap but don't fully match the USNWR rankings that I treat mentally equivalent in terms of knowing the schools select strong students, the quality of education students received has prepared them well and that a high GPA from their school is meaningful. When I get an application outside those schools, I don't discount it, but I dig into other aspects of the application with greater scrutiny to get a read on academic preparation.
Likely my list of top colleges differs from that of entry-level employers as we are looking for different things.
honestly would be very interested in hearing your list.
Anonymous
03/24/2023 19:21
Subject: Top Colleges
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Elite:
HYPSM + Ivies
Chicago
Duke
Northwestern
Caltech
Johns Hopkins
Williams
Amherst
That's it. The rest of the top 20-30 are "top schools" but I would not categorize them as elite.
Skip Duke and Hopkins and I'll buy it.
nope the average joe on the street will know all of these except Williams and Amherst - not that it really matters, but most people think a school like Wesleyan- which has arguably better name recognition that Williams - is on par with Amherst and Williams - clearly not the general opinion from the erudite masses on dcum
and cmon folks, deep down no one really considers Williams or Amherst elite. Great schools but meh prestige. Williams alumns always have to
mention LAC ranking when explaining where they went
If you’re talking about the general pop then this is true for almost everywhere outside of Harvard/Yale and big state football schools.
Anonymous
03/24/2023 19:16
Subject: Top Colleges
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Elite:
HYPSM + Ivies
Chicago
Duke
Northwestern
Caltech
Johns Hopkins
Williams
Amherst
That's it. The rest of the top 20-30 are "top schools" but I would not categorize them as elite.
Skip Duke and Hopkins and I'll buy it.
and cmon folks, deep down no one really considers Williams or Amherst elite. Great schools but meh prestige. Williams alumns always have to
mention LAC ranking when explaining where they went
If you’re talking about the general pop then this is true for almost everywhere outside of Harvard/Yale and big state football schools.
Anonymous
03/24/2023 19:14
Subject: Top Colleges
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Elite:
HYPSM + Ivies
Chicago
Duke
Northwestern
Caltech
Johns Hopkins
Williams
Amherst
That's it. The rest of the top 20-30 are "top schools" but I would not categorize them as elite.
Skip Duke and Hopkins and I'll buy it.
and cmon folks, deep down no one really considers Williams or Amherst elite. Great schools but meh prestige. Williams alumns always have to
mention LAC ranking when explaining where they went
Nope. Not in my world.
Anonymous
03/24/2023 19:13
Subject: Top Colleges
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Elite:
HYPSM + Ivies
Chicago
Duke
Northwestern
Caltech
Johns Hopkins
Williams
Amherst
That's it. The rest of the top 20-30 are "top schools" but I would not categorize them as elite.
Skip Duke and Hopkins and I'll buy it.
and cmon folks, deep down no one really considers Williams or Amherst elite. Great schools but meh prestige. Williams alumns always have to
mention LAC ranking when explaining where they went