The choice as a parent is this - and it is stark in a place like MoCo where it is so expensive to live: move or private school. Your child has a right to feel safe. Your child has told you they don’t. You have to do something. Stop supporting these bloated, failing organizations. Public schools like MCPS don’t work in an overly diverse community. Pull your kid. You are the only one who is at fault here with this knowledge at this point. My hope is if enough middle class folks pull the system will implode. Only way to get change at this point. Then vote for backpack funding - money follows kid, not corrupt bureaucrats. COVID proved public schools as they are currently structured (offering jobs to lower class) are worth very little to society.

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Anonymous wrote:There are fights and incidents at every middle and high school in the county right now.

Yes, there appear to be one or more posters who are heavily vested in the narrative that schools are out of control and hope to create grassroots support for reinstating SROs even though the CEO program appears to be more effective.

Spoken like a person who has no clue what's going on.

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Anonymous wrote:There are fights and incidents at every middle and high school in the county right now.

Right now? It's always been that way. Even in my small town Catholic high school there were fights.

Shhh, we want to make it sound like society is in decline, and saying this isn't helping our false narrative.

I went to a middle class and lower middle class high school and there was maybe 1 fight a week. In a school of 1800 kids. I don't think I remember but a handful of fights my entire 3 years of middle school.

My kids go to Julius West Middle School and there at least 5 fights a week.

I am sorry, but it is different now. Do fights happen? yes. Daily? no

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Anonymous wrote:There are fights and incidents at every middle and high school in the county right now.

Right now? It's always been that way. Even in my small town Catholic high school there were fights.

Nah, not at all.

I went to a public MS and HS in an area that was not wealthy. There were not nearly as many fights as there are in my kid’s MCPS middle school.

Sorry, OP. It’s been bad since pre-Covid and has just gotten worse. Not much admin can do about it. Just try to tell your kid to steer clear as much as possible. Helps to eat lunch in the Media Center since my kid notes the fights are often in the cafeteria at lunch time.

The board meeting the other day made it sound like things had gotten much better over recent years. For example, far fewer calls to police etc.

Fewer calls to polices does not equal fewer fights. It just means that admin is not calling the police and more likely, admin is just sweeping incidents under the rug.

Ask any teacher if there are more fights now versus five years ago.

Which MCPS middle school do your kids attend?

+1 it's like how the covid denying states wouldn't report the numbers. If you don't report, then the numbers don't look bad.

#RJ
#equity

Yep, at the RJ meeting last month the MCPS rep emphasized the need to reduce suspensions. It just makes things look better on paper , the poor behaviors are still there.

RJ is preventative so the numbers are down.

Ok? That’s what the rep said. The school had X suspensions and be emphasized the need to reduce suspensions for POC. Never mind the white suspensions.
Reducing suspensions means the data looks improved but the students may still be exhibiting same behavior. Just yesterday a student threw a bottle in the cafeteria.

They said it's reduced suspensions because it's working.

NP. I would appreciate an explanation of how RJ reduces suspensions. Not being snarky, but I honestly thought RJ was being implemented in lieu of suspensions so kids would spend more time in school and because there was significant disparity in the suspension rates between different racial groups, so it seems disingenuous to say RJ reduces suspensions — but I freely admit that my impression of how RJ is used may be way off base.

RJ is supposed to reduce the incidents, not be a replacement for suspension. That is the major flaw in how MCPS is implementing/marketing RJ. MCPS is not enforcing a lot of rules that used to trigger police involvement, so now police only show up for the worst of the worst incidents. Police arrests/charges have actually increased, so it is fair say that RJ has not been effective in reducing incidents in schools. It also cannot get credit for reducing police involvement.

MCPS's own data as well as opinions from staff, students, and families indicate RJ has not been successful at least at the middle school and high school level.

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Anonymous wrote:There are fights and incidents at every middle and high school in the county right now.

Right now? It's always been that way. Even in my small town Catholic high school there were fights.

Nah, not at all.

I went to a public MS and HS in an area that was not wealthy. There were not nearly as many fights as there are in my kid’s MCPS middle school.

Sorry, OP. It’s been bad since pre-Covid and has just gotten worse. Not much admin can do about it. Just try to tell your kid to steer clear as much as possible. Helps to eat lunch in the Media Center since my kid notes the fights are often in the cafeteria at lunch time.

The board meeting the other day made it sound like things had gotten much better over recent years. For example, far fewer calls to police etc.

Fewer calls to polices does not equal fewer fights. It just means that admin is not calling the police and more likely, admin is just sweeping incidents under the rug.

Ask any teacher if there are more fights now versus five years ago.

Which MCPS middle school do your kids attend?

+1 it's like how the covid denying states wouldn't report the numbers. If you don't report, then the numbers don't look bad.

#RJ
#equity

Yep, at the RJ meeting last month the MCPS rep emphasized the need to reduce suspensions. It just makes things look better on paper , the poor behaviors are still there.

RJ is preventative so the numbers are down.

Ok? That’s what the rep said. The school had X suspensions and be emphasized the need to reduce suspensions for POC. Never mind the white suspensions.
Reducing suspensions means the data looks improved but the students may still be exhibiting same behavior. Just yesterday a student threw a bottle in the cafeteria.

They said it's reduced suspensions because it's working.

NP. I would appreciate an explanation of how RJ reduces suspensions. Not being snarky, but I honestly thought RJ was being implemented in lieu of suspensions so kids would spend more time in school and because there was significant disparity in the suspension rates between different racial groups, so it seems disingenuous to say RJ reduces suspensions — but I freely admit that my impression of how RJ is used may be way off base.

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Anonymous wrote:There are fights and incidents at every middle and high school in the county right now.

Right now? It's always been that way. Even in my small town Catholic high school there were fights.

Nah, not at all.

I went to a public MS and HS in an area that was not wealthy. There were not nearly as many fights as there are in my kid’s MCPS middle school.

Sorry, OP. It’s been bad since pre-Covid and has just gotten worse. Not much admin can do about it. Just try to tell your kid to steer clear as much as possible. Helps to eat lunch in the Media Center since my kid notes the fights are often in the cafeteria at lunch time.

The board meeting the other day made it sound like things had gotten much better over recent years. For example, far fewer calls to police etc.

Fewer calls to polices does not equal fewer fights. It just means that admin is not calling the police and more likely, admin is just sweeping incidents under the rug.

Ask any teacher if there are more fights now versus five years ago.

Which MCPS middle school do your kids attend?

+1 it's like how the covid denying states wouldn't report the numbers. If you don't report, then the numbers don't look bad.

#RJ
#equity

Yep, at the RJ meeting last month the MCPS rep emphasized the need to reduce suspensions. It just makes things look better on paper , the poor behaviors are still there.

RJ is preventative so the numbers are down.

Ok? That’s what the rep said. The school had X suspensions and be emphasized the need to reduce suspensions for POC. Never mind the white suspensions.
Reducing suspensions means the data looks improved but the students may still be exhibiting same behavior. Just yesterday a student threw a bottle in the cafeteria.

They said it's reduced suspensions because it's working.

Some folks were convinced that hydroxychloroquine worked on covid and that's why the numbers went down in certain places.

This is a case of self fulfilling prophecy and circular reasoning: RJ is working because suspension rates are down; suspensions are down because RJ is working

Violence is up in the schools. Why do you think MCPS and the city council and a meeting about school safety?

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Anonymous wrote:There are fights and incidents at every middle and high school in the county right now.

Yes, there appear to be one or more posters who are heavily vested in the narrative that schools are out of control and hope to create grassroots support for reinstating SROs even though the CEO program appears to be more effective.

The GOPs strategy is to get parents worked up over these faux issues like CRT and now this.

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Anonymous wrote:There are fights and incidents at every middle and high school in the county right now.

Right now? It's always been that way. Even in my small town Catholic high school there were fights.

Nah, not at all.

I went to a public MS and HS in an area that was not wealthy. There were not nearly as many fights as there are in my kid’s MCPS middle school.

Sorry, OP. It’s been bad since pre-Covid and has just gotten worse. Not much admin can do about it. Just try to tell your kid to steer clear as much as possible. Helps to eat lunch in the Media Center since my kid notes the fights are often in the cafeteria at lunch time.

The board meeting the other day made it sound like things had gotten much better over recent years. For example, far fewer calls to police etc.

Fewer calls to polices does not equal fewer fights. It just means that admin is not calling the police and more likely, admin is just sweeping incidents under the rug.

Ask any teacher if there are more fights now versus five years ago.

Which MCPS middle school do your kids attend?

+1 it's like how the covid denying states wouldn't report the numbers. If you don't report, then the numbers don't look bad.

#RJ
#equity

Yep, at the RJ meeting last month the MCPS rep emphasized the need to reduce suspensions. It just makes things look better on paper , the poor behaviors are still there.

RJ is preventative so the numbers are down.

Ok? That’s what the rep said. The school had X suspensions and be emphasized the need to reduce suspensions for POC. Never mind the white suspensions.
Reducing suspensions means the data looks improved but the students may still be exhibiting same behavior. Just yesterday a student threw a bottle in the cafeteria.

They said it's reduced suspensions because it's working.

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Anonymous wrote:There are fights and incidents at every middle and high school in the county right now.

Yes, there appear to be one or more posters who are heavily vested in the narrative that schools are out of control and hope to create grassroots support for reinstating SROs even though the CEO program appears to be more effective.

Ummm…are you in the schools, they ARE out of control- from elementary up through high. I feel that we need to have substitute requirements like we do jury duty. If you have a child in the school system, then you’re on the list and can be called upon on a rotating schedule. People like you need to get into the schools rather than judging by the MCPS spin team.

+1 ^PPs head is in the sand. Why do you think MCPS and the county council had a meeting about school safety? Why do you think they had to implement CEO 2.0? Because RJ is working so well and violence is down?

I vote that Elrich and the progressive council members walk the HS hallways, break up fights, go to the bathrooms and confront the kids who are doing drugs, sit in on the classrooms and deal with disruptive and disrespectful kids.

Actually, parental involvement is good , too. I read about a story where some teen boy in HS was causing issues in the class. The teacher kept complaining to the parent, so one day, the dad came into the class and sat in the class with the kid. The kid was mortified, and stopped acting up.

There is zero accountability on the parent, students, MCPS and the progressive Council members.

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Anonymous wrote:There are fights and incidents at every middle and high school in the county right now.

Right now? It's always been that way. Even in my small town Catholic high school there were fights.

Nah, not at all.

I went to a public MS and HS in an area that was not wealthy. There were not nearly as many fights as there are in my kid’s MCPS middle school.

Sorry, OP. It’s been bad since pre-Covid and has just gotten worse. Not much admin can do about it. Just try to tell your kid to steer clear as much as possible. Helps to eat lunch in the Media Center since my kid notes the fights are often in the cafeteria at lunch time.

The board meeting the other day made it sound like things had gotten much better over recent years. For example, far fewer calls to police etc.

Fewer calls to polices does not equal fewer fights. It just means that admin is not calling the police and more likely, admin is just sweeping incidents under the rug.

Ask any teacher if there are more fights now versus five years ago.

Which MCPS middle school do your kids attend?

+1 it's like how the covid denying states wouldn't report the numbers. If you don't report, then the numbers don't look bad.

#RJ
#equity

Yep, at the RJ meeting last month the MCPS rep emphasized the need to reduce suspensions. It just makes things look better on paper , the poor behaviors are still there.

RJ is preventative so the numbers are down.

Ok? That’s what the rep said. The school had X suspensions and be emphasized the need to reduce suspensions for POC. Never mind the white suspensions.
Reducing suspensions means the data looks improved but the students may still be exhibiting same behavior. Just yesterday a student threw a bottle in the cafeteria.

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Anonymous wrote:There are fights and incidents at every middle and high school in the county right now.

Yes, there appear to be one or more posters who are heavily vested in the narrative that schools are out of control and hope to create grassroots support for reinstating SROs even though the CEO program appears to be more effective.

Ummm…are you in the schools, they ARE out of control- from elementary up through high. I feel that we need to have substitute requirements like we do jury duty. If you have a child in the school system, then you’re on the list and can be called upon on a rotating schedule. People like you need to get into the schools rather than judging by the MCPS spin team.

Anonymous wrote:There are fights and incidents at every middle and high school in the county right now.

Yes, there appear to be one or more posters who are heavily vested in the narrative that schools are out of control and hope to create grassroots support for reinstating SROs even though the CEO program appears to be more effective.

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Anonymous wrote:There are fights and incidents at every middle and high school in the county right now.

Right now? It's always been that way. Even in my small town Catholic high school there were fights.

Nah, not at all.

I went to a public MS and HS in an area that was not wealthy. There were not nearly as many fights as there are in my kid’s MCPS middle school.

Sorry, OP. It’s been bad since pre-Covid and has just gotten worse. Not much admin can do about it. Just try to tell your kid to steer clear as much as possible. Helps to eat lunch in the Media Center since my kid notes the fights are often in the cafeteria at lunch time.

The board meeting the other day made it sound like things had gotten much better over recent years. For example, far fewer calls to police etc.

Fewer calls to polices does not equal fewer fights. It just means that admin is not calling the police and more likely, admin is just sweeping incidents under the rug.

Ask any teacher if there are more fights now versus five years ago.

Which MCPS middle school do your kids attend?

+1 it's like how the covid denying states wouldn't report the numbers. If you don't report, then the numbers don't look bad.

#RJ
#equity

Yep, at the RJ meeting last month the MCPS rep emphasized the need to reduce suspensions. It just makes things look better on paper , the poor behaviors are still there.

RJ is preventative so the numbers are down.

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Anonymous wrote:There are fights and incidents at every middle and high school in the county right now.

Right now? It's always been that way. Even in my small town Catholic high school there were fights.

Nah, not at all.

I went to a public MS and HS in an area that was not wealthy. There were not nearly as many fights as there are in my kid’s MCPS middle school.

Sorry, OP. It’s been bad since pre-Covid and has just gotten worse. Not much admin can do about it. Just try to tell your kid to steer clear as much as possible. Helps to eat lunch in the Media Center since my kid notes the fights are often in the cafeteria at lunch time.

The board meeting the other day made it sound like things had gotten much better over recent years. For example, far fewer calls to police etc.

Fewer calls to polices does not equal fewer fights. It just means that admin is not calling the police and more likely, admin is just sweeping incidents under the rug.

Ask any teacher if there are more fights now versus five years ago.

Which MCPS middle school do your kids attend?

+1 it's like how the covid denying states wouldn't report the numbers. If you don't report, then the numbers don't look bad.

#RJ
#equity

Yep, at the RJ meeting last month the MCPS rep emphasized the need to reduce suspensions. It just makes things look better on paper , the poor behaviors are still there.

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone with kids at LPMS know what is going on? My kid comes home every day with news of some sort of brawl.

Is it affecting you kid? If not, how about not worrying about it and let the school deal with it.

Were you raised by alcoholic felons? Of course violence effects all kids.

Lpms does seem to have more fights than other schools.
My dc has been attacked 3 separate times.
And the principal sent an email, this week, indicating a "threat" had been made against a group of kids. Police found the threat was not credible.

Mcps will continue its decline and people like pp will try to normalize it. But what's happening to your children isn't normal and shouldn't be accepted.
Violent students should be immediately suspended. 2nd strike, they should be sent to a school with other Violent students and staff equipped to deal with them.

Your kid was attacked three times at LP? What happened? What was the result?