Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Good example of why I think post-Roe might end up just fine after a bad period (NO pun intended).

State legislators are going to have to look voters in the eye and tell them that not having access to basic services is just right and good. I don't think they'll be able to do that for long.

You think there will be introspection? They'll find a way to blame democrats. Two or three years from now, it will be common knowledge that the delivery department closed because of regulation and trial lawyers and insurance companies

Evolution plays out longer than 2-3 years.

In a couple of news cycles, they will be supplied with the appropriate culprit and life will move on.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Good example of why I think post-Roe might end up just fine after a bad period (NO pun intended).

State legislators are going to have to look voters in the eye and tell them that not having access to basic services is just right and good. I don't think they'll be able to do that for long.

You think there will be introspection? They'll find a way to blame democrats. Two or three years from now, it will be common knowledge that the delivery department closed because of regulation and trial lawyers and insurance companies

Evolution plays out longer than 2-3 years.

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Anonymous wrote:Ironically, the prolifers have pushed out obgyns and pediatricians from hospitals due to the restrictive abortion laws, and the hospital will no longer deliver babies.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/mar/20/idaho-bonner-hospital-baby-delivery-abortion-ban

An Idaho hospital has planned to stop delivering babies, with the medical center’s managers citing increasing criminalization of physicians and the inability to retain pediatricians as major reasons.

Bonner General Health, the only hospital in Sandpoint, Idaho, announced on Friday that it would no longer provide labor, delivery and a host of other obstetrical services.

The more than 9,000 residents of Sandpoint are now forced to drive 46 miles for the nearest labor and delivery care, the Idaho Statesman reported.

Will we see more such cases all over these anti-abortion states?

How does this relate? In Virginia, no OBGYN ever would perform an abortion, they would refer you to PP. I don't see why this would have any effect on regular OBGYN practice.

Are you daft? PP is not the only place that a woman can have her pregnancy terminated and/or have a D&C and/or any gynecological/obstetric care outside of delivery. OB/GYNs do not just deliver babies. These rulings and the legal gaping hole left for states, localities, hospitals, and physicians to navigate has restricted the type of caregiving that can be provided to someone who is pregnant and will not/cannot/does not want to give birth or has a baby that will not/cannot/does not grow/develop is not a gray area. It is a more than a significant portion of their job.

The juice isn't worth the squeeze as it were but these rural hospitals were trying to keep women and children alive. They cant get physicians to go there or to come back because they arent able to provide the best care for their patients.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ironically, the prolifers have pushed out obgyns and pediatricians from hospitals due to the restrictive abortion laws, and the hospital will no longer deliver babies.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/mar/20/idaho-bonner-hospital-baby-delivery-abortion-ban

An Idaho hospital has planned to stop delivering babies, with the medical center’s managers citing increasing criminalization of physicians and the inability to retain pediatricians as major reasons.

Bonner General Health, the only hospital in Sandpoint, Idaho, announced on Friday that it would no longer provide labor, delivery and a host of other obstetrical services.

The more than 9,000 residents of Sandpoint are now forced to drive 46 miles for the nearest labor and delivery care, the Idaho Statesman reported.

Will we see more such cases all over these anti-abortion states?

How does this relate? In Virginia, no OBGYN ever would perform an abortion, they would refer you to PP. I don't see why this would have any effect on regular OBGYN practice.

You are misinformed. Everyone doesn't have to go to PP. Even in the Commonwealth PP is not the only option. And who do you think usually performs abortions?

Anonymous wrote:Good. Pro-lifers, be careful what you wish for. I do not blame these medical professionals for their decision.

100%

Anonymous wrote:Ironically, the prolifers have pushed out obgyns and pediatricians from hospitals due to the restrictive abortion laws, and the hospital will no longer deliver babies.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/mar/20/idaho-bonner-hospital-baby-delivery-abortion-ban

An Idaho hospital has planned to stop delivering babies, with the medical center’s managers citing increasing criminalization of physicians and the inability to retain pediatricians as major reasons.

Bonner General Health, the only hospital in Sandpoint, Idaho, announced on Friday that it would no longer provide labor, delivery and a host of other obstetrical services.

The more than 9,000 residents of Sandpoint are now forced to drive 46 miles for the nearest labor and delivery care, the Idaho Statesman reported.

Will we see more such cases all over these anti-abortion states?

How does this relate? In Virginia, no OBGYN ever would perform an abortion, they would refer you to PP. I don't see why this would have any effect on regular OBGYN practice.

Anonymous wrote:Good example of why I think post-Roe might end up just fine after a bad period (NO pun intended).

State legislators are going to have to look voters in the eye and tell them that not having access to basic services is just right and good. I don't think they'll be able to do that for long.

You think there will be introspection? They'll find a way to blame democrats. Two or three years from now, it will be common knowledge that the delivery department closed because of regulation and trial lawyers and insurance companies

Anonymous wrote:Good example of why I think post-Roe might end up just fine after a bad period (NO pun intended).

State legislators are going to have to look voters in the eye and tell them that not having access to basic services is just right and good. I don't think they'll be able to do that for long.

If it ends with these goons on a deportation boat for the Vatican, our country will be better for it.

Good example of why I think post-Roe might end up just fine after a bad period (NO pun intended).

State legislators are going to have to look voters in the eye and tell them that not having access to basic services is just right and good. I don't think they'll be able to do that for long.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Fwiw, 46 miles isn't that far, in the West.

It is in the winter in Northern Idaho. Oh well, tot and pears

I know this area. It’s very mountainous with narrow roads. They get feet of snow every winter.

I SHOCKED that OBs don't want to practice in these backwards places. /s

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Anonymous wrote:Fwiw, 46 miles isn't that far, in the West.

It’s too far if you’re bleeding out.

If she didn't want to bleed out, she should have kept her legs closed. /s

Anonymous wrote:Fwiw, 46 miles isn't that far, in the West.

how far was your hospital when you gave birth? Or are you a man with no children?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So if a woman shows up in the emergency room with a baby crowning, will she just get turned away?

they may help her, but there won't be an obgyn on staff, and if the baby has issues, there won't be neonatal services to help. I predict they will see an decrease in maternal and infant mortality.

Wit? Why a decrease in mortality. Seems like we are on for a big increase.

yea, I meant decrease surviving. sorry.

Anonymous wrote:Fwiw, 46 miles isn't that far, in the West.

It is in the winter in Northern Idaho. Oh well, tot and pears