Anonymous
Post 04/01/2023 15:44     Subject: APS Elementary: On the Rise ?

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Anonymous wrote:Complainers gonna complain. We've been perfectly happy with our APS experience. The scores show zero difference between our school and high achieving MCPS / FCPS schools. So, shrug.


So you are at Jamestown?


Dang you went there. And you’re probably right.


Frankly so jealous of Jamestown. We are in North Arlington and the schools were supposed to be good, but it is such a difference apparently between neighborhoods. Jamestown is apparently amazing and meanwhile we are looking at private school because our neighborhood school is not the best. We should have bought north of Langston.


Which NA schools are not as nice as Jamestown?


Pretty much the rest of them. We bought above Langston and are far from thrilled.
Anonymous
Post 04/01/2023 14:58     Subject: APS Elementary: On the Rise ?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Complainers gonna complain. We've been perfectly happy with our APS experience. The scores show zero difference between our school and high achieving MCPS / FCPS schools. So, shrug.


So you are at Jamestown?


Dang you went there. And you’re probably right.


Frankly so jealous of Jamestown. We are in North Arlington and the schools were supposed to be good, but it is such a difference apparently between neighborhoods. Jamestown is apparently amazing and meanwhile we are looking at private school because our neighborhood school is not the best. We should have bought north of Langston.


Which NA schools are not as nice as Jamestown?
Anonymous
Post 03/31/2023 13:39     Subject: APS Elementary: On the Rise ?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Complainers gonna complain. We've been perfectly happy with our APS experience. The scores show zero difference between our school and high achieving MCPS / FCPS schools. So, shrug.


So you are at Jamestown?


Dang you went there. And you’re probably right.


Frankly so jealous of Jamestown. We are in North Arlington and the schools were supposed to be good, but it is such a difference apparently between neighborhoods. Jamestown is apparently amazing and meanwhile we are looking at private school because our neighborhood school is not the best. We should have bought north of Langston.


Have you hopped over to the private school threads? If you do private, you’ll find something better than Jamestown. I hear ya on the schools, APS could fix it if they wanted to. It’s not right.
Anonymous
Post 03/31/2023 13:16     Subject: APS Elementary: On the Rise ?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Complainers gonna complain. We've been perfectly happy with our APS experience. The scores show zero difference between our school and high achieving MCPS / FCPS schools. So, shrug.


So you are at Jamestown?


Dang you went there. And you’re probably right.


Frankly so jealous of Jamestown. We are in North Arlington and the schools were supposed to be good, but it is such a difference apparently between neighborhoods. Jamestown is apparently amazing and meanwhile we are looking at private school because our neighborhood school is not the best. We should have bought north of Langston.
Anonymous
Post 03/27/2023 22:23     Subject: Re:APS Elementary: On the Rise ?

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Anonymous wrote:They've switched to online assessments for grading and it's stupid. Elementary kids shouldn't have their math tests be multiple choice. They shouldn't be assessed on only 3-8 questions per unit and there should be partial credit. It's a bonkers way of deciding if kids know the materials.


Are you kidding me?! My kids are no longer in ES, but I swear I was repeating "You have to show your work so they know you're thinking like a mathematician" in my sleep.

Also, SBG is trash.

(I do love almost all APS teachers, though)

Yup, the online tests also have tons of mistakes or terribly unclear questions. At parent teacher conferences out conversation went like this:

Us: So how did Larlo get a B in math this quarter? His Math Inventory is off the charts and he is great at math.

Teacher: Well, there were two tests and he got a 66% on one of them.

Us: Really, what didn't he understand.

Teacher: We'll, it was three problems and he got this one wrong, so he got a 66%.

Us: (Looking at the problem) Uh, but none of those answers is correct? The answer should be X.

Teacher: It says the answer is (C)

Us:. But that's not correct.

Teacher: I have to go by what's in the system.

Good times in APS.


Me correcting 4th grade math is my favorite after bedtime activity. It's insane how stupid some of the questions are. Upside, I explain what they are supposed to say and what they do say to my kid so she should be a pretty good thinker..I hope.
Anonymous
Post 03/23/2023 07:20     Subject: Re:APS Elementary: On the Rise ?

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I’m an elementary APS teacher. I have no idea what you are talking about with this testing… sounds like you are not in an SBG school.

We do multiple check ins and also track formative assignments for progress. Students have many many opportunities to show mastery of a standard.


You're saying math tests are not multiple choice and students are required to show their work?



Our math check-ins are a mix of multiple choice and showing work, depending on the question. We do have students show their work. If your teacher uses mastery connect for all tests and quizzes, that's up to them, and then the questions are mult choice, write in the blank, drag and drop, etc.

Each quarter APS also makes a larger quarterly assessment that is SOL style on mastery connect which is our online testing software attached to canvas. It's not required to use mastery connect.

We were told that APS has made Mastery Connect mandatory and that teachers must use it for tracking math progress, so it has to be used for all tests/evaluations. It doesn't matter if kids show their work. Like all things APS, I'm sure your mileage varies by elementary school.


I’m an APS elementary teacher. We have never been told that mastery connect is required for anything. We do use it sometimes but it’s not a great program (especially compared to powertest whuch we used previously). We prefer paper pencil and we often reformat to paper pencil from master connect.

So like all thing APS, it varies by school. I shared exactly what I've been told and how my child is being evaluated this year. It's not a good way of determining if a kid knows math.
Anonymous
Post 03/23/2023 07:02     Subject: Re:APS Elementary: On the Rise ?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
I’m an elementary APS teacher. I have no idea what you are talking about with this testing… sounds like you are not in an SBG school.

We do multiple check ins and also track formative assignments for progress. Students have many many opportunities to show mastery of a standard.


You're saying math tests are not multiple choice and students are required to show their work?



Our math check-ins are a mix of multiple choice and showing work, depending on the question. We do have students show their work. If your teacher uses mastery connect for all tests and quizzes, that's up to them, and then the questions are mult choice, write in the blank, drag and drop, etc.

Each quarter APS also makes a larger quarterly assessment that is SOL style on mastery connect which is our online testing software attached to canvas. It's not required to use mastery connect.

We were told that APS has made Mastery Connect mandatory and that teachers must use it for tracking math progress, so it has to be used for all tests/evaluations. It doesn't matter if kids show their work. Like all things APS, I'm sure your mileage varies by elementary school.


I’m an APS elementary teacher. We have never been told that mastery connect is required for anything. We do use it sometimes but it’s not a great program (especially compared to powertest whuch we used previously). We prefer paper pencil and we often reformat to paper pencil from master connect.
Anonymous
Post 03/22/2023 21:19     Subject: Re:APS Elementary: On the Rise ?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
I’m an elementary APS teacher. I have no idea what you are talking about with this testing… sounds like you are not in an SBG school.

We do multiple check ins and also track formative assignments for progress. Students have many many opportunities to show mastery of a standard.


You're saying math tests are not multiple choice and students are required to show their work?



Our math check-ins are a mix of multiple choice and showing work, depending on the question. We do have students show their work. If your teacher uses mastery connect for all tests and quizzes, that's up to them, and then the questions are mult choice, write in the blank, drag and drop, etc.

Each quarter APS also makes a larger quarterly assessment that is SOL style on mastery connect which is our online testing software attached to canvas. It's not required to use mastery connect.

We were told that APS has made Mastery Connect mandatory and that teachers must use it for tracking math progress, so it has to be used for all tests/evaluations. It doesn't matter if kids show their work. Like all things APS, I'm sure your mileage varies by elementary school.
Anonymous
Post 03/22/2023 13:49     Subject: Re:APS Elementary: On the Rise ?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:They've switched to online assessments for grading and it's stupid. Elementary kids shouldn't have their math tests be multiple choice. They shouldn't be assessed on only 3-8 questions per unit and there should be partial credit. It's a bonkers way of deciding if kids know the materials.


Are you kidding me?! My kids are no longer in ES, but I swear I was repeating "You have to show your work so they know you're thinking like a mathematician" in my sleep.

Also, SBG is trash.

(I do love almost all APS teachers, though)

Yup, the online tests also have tons of mistakes or terribly unclear questions. At parent teacher conferences out conversation went like this:

Us: So how did Larlo get a B in math this quarter? His Math Inventory is off the charts and he is great at math.

Teacher: Well, there were two tests and he got a 66% on one of them.

Us: Really, what didn't he understand.

Teacher: We'll, it was three problems and he got this one wrong, so he got a 66%.

Us: (Looking at the problem) Uh, but none of those answers is correct? The answer should be X.

Teacher: It says the answer is (C)

Us:. But that's not correct.

Teacher: I have to go by what's in the system.

Good times in APS.


You should land your helicopter. Or go to private.


I’m sorry, did you just suggest that people who want math tests to include the proper answer in a multiple choice test must send their kids to private school? What a terrible indictment of the public school system.
Anonymous
Post 03/22/2023 12:42     Subject: Re:APS Elementary: On the Rise ?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
I’m an elementary APS teacher. I have no idea what you are talking about with this testing… sounds like you are not in an SBG school.

We do multiple check ins and also track formative assignments for progress. Students have many many opportunities to show mastery of a standard.


You're saying math tests are not multiple choice and students are required to show their work?



Our math check-ins are a mix of multiple choice and showing work, depending on the question. We do have students show their work. If your teacher uses mastery connect for all tests and quizzes, that's up to them, and then the questions are mult choice, write in the blank, drag and drop, etc.

Each quarter APS also makes a larger quarterly assessment that is SOL style on mastery connect which is our online testing software attached to canvas. It's not required to use mastery connect.
Anonymous
Post 03/22/2023 12:22     Subject: Re:APS Elementary: On the Rise ?

Anonymous wrote:
I’m an elementary APS teacher. I have no idea what you are talking about with this testing… sounds like you are not in an SBG school.

We do multiple check ins and also track formative assignments for progress. Students have many many opportunities to show mastery of a standard.


You're saying math tests are not multiple choice and students are required to show their work?

Anonymous
Post 03/22/2023 10:39     Subject: Re:APS Elementary: On the Rise ?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:They've switched to online assessments for grading and it's stupid. Elementary kids shouldn't have their math tests be multiple choice. They shouldn't be assessed on only 3-8 questions per unit and there should be partial credit. It's a bonkers way of deciding if kids know the materials.


Are you kidding me?! My kids are no longer in ES, but I swear I was repeating "You have to show your work so they know you're thinking like a mathematician" in my sleep.

Also, SBG is trash.

(I do love almost all APS teachers, though)

Yup, the online tests also have tons of mistakes or terribly unclear questions. At parent teacher conferences out conversation went like this:

Us: So how did Larlo get a B in math this quarter? His Math Inventory is off the charts and he is great at math.

Teacher: Well, there were two tests and he got a 66% on one of them.

Us: Really, what didn't he understand.

Teacher: We'll, it was three problems and he got this one wrong, so he got a 66%.

Us: (Looking at the problem) Uh, but none of those answers is correct? The answer should be X.

Teacher: It says the answer is (C)

Us:. But that's not correct.

Teacher: I have to go by what's in the system.

Good times in APS.


You should land your helicopter. Or go to private.

Good to know that attending a parent teacher conference is helicoptering.
Anonymous
Post 03/22/2023 10:38     Subject: Re:APS Elementary: On the Rise ?

Anonymous wrote:
I’m an elementary APS teacher. I have no idea what you are talking about with this testing… sounds like you are not in an SBG school.

We do multiple check ins and also track formative assignments for progress. Students have many many opportunities to show mastery of a standard.


Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:They've switched to online assessments for grading and it's stupid. Elementary kids shouldn't have their math tests be multiple choice. They shouldn't be assessed on only 3-8 questions per unit and there should be partial credit. It's a bonkers way of deciding if kids know the materials.


Are you kidding me?! My kids are no longer in ES, but I swear I was repeating "You have to show your work so they know you're thinking like a mathematician" in my sleep.

Also, SBG is trash.

(I do love almost all APS teachers, though)

Yup, the online tests also have tons of mistakes or terribly unclear questions. At parent teacher conferences out conversation went like this:

Us: So how did Larlo get a B in math this quarter? His Math Inventory is off the charts and he is great at math.

Teacher: Well, there were two tests and he got a 66% on one of them.

Us: Really, what didn't he understand.

Teacher: We'll, it was three problems and he got this one wrong, so he got a 66%.

Us: (Looking at the problem) Uh, but none of those answers is correct? The answer should be X.

Teacher: It says the answer is (C)

Us:. But that's not correct.

Teacher: I have to go by what's in the system.

Good times in APS.


The program is called Mastery Connect and it's what's being used for all math tests in our APS elementary. Maybe it just hasn't been rolled out at your school yet?
Anonymous
Post 03/22/2023 10:22     Subject: APS Elementary: On the Rise ?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Complainers gonna complain. We've been perfectly happy with our APS experience. The scores show zero difference between our school and high achieving MCPS / FCPS schools. So, shrug.


So you are at Jamestown?


Dang you went there. And you’re probably right.
Anonymous
Post 03/22/2023 01:25     Subject: APS Elementary: On the Rise ?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Complainers gonna complain. We've been perfectly happy with our APS experience. The scores show zero difference between our school and high achieving MCPS / FCPS schools. So, shrug.


Not true. At least compared to Fairfax peer schools, our HS underperform Fairfax.


Yeah SOLs are in 70s at our NA elementary, while like Haycock is 99 across the board.