Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Haven’t we had enough threads on this? No, I do not want SROs back in schools. They’re not the solution

Really, you do not care about this fact: ???


Public safety is in the gutter due to policies enacted in recent years and our schools are both less safe and teaching students less. . .“SROs were removed from schools in 2021 and violence (second article) and drug use has skyrocketed since in MCPS. Some community members say MCPS was safer with SROs. Following the in MCPS school shooting at Magruder HS, MCPS reconsidered this and eventually came up with CEO 2.0 and brought Community Engagement Officers back into schools. In fact, there is recent data showing that Black and Hispanic students percentage of suspensions for discipline has actually increased since SROs were removed (which is part of the problem removing them was supposed to solve). That article did not go into the violence or other types of suspensions but the full Maryland report can be see here.


PP: when you say you do not care if Black and Hispanic students are expelled at increasing rates, what does that make YOU ?

I am confused why people think this is some smoking gun about removing SROs from schools. There are a lot of other things going on besides the removal of SROs.

Agree, I can't help but wonder. Did MCPD just throw in the towel when they removed SROs. It seems like they're no longer even trying to police schools even though it's their job.

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ModeratelyMoco wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Haven’t we had enough threads on this? No, I do not want SROs back in schools. They’re not the solution

Really, you do not care about this fact: ???


Public safety is in the gutter due to policies enacted in recent years and our schools are both less safe and teaching students less. . .“SROs were removed from schools in 2021 and violence (second article) and drug use has skyrocketed since in MCPS. Some community members say MCPS was safer with SROs. Following the in MCPS school shooting at Magruder HS, MCPS reconsidered this and eventually came up with CEO 2.0 and brought Community Engagement Officers back into schools. In fact, there is recent data showing that Black and Hispanic students percentage of suspensions for discipline has actually increased since SROs were removed (which is part of the problem removing them was supposed to solve). That article did not go into the violence or other types of suspensions but the full Maryland report can be see here.


PP: when you say you do not care if Black and Hispanic students are expelled at increasing rates, what does that make YOU ?

I am confused why people think this is some smoking gun about removing SROs from schools. There are a lot of other things going on besides the removal of SROs.

Whatever is going on, violence is up. Drug use in bathrooms are out of control.

Why do you think both MCPS and now the County Council are looking into school safety again, and why some MCPS schools have implemented CEO 2.0?

We need all hands on deck, and SROs or CEO 2.0 can be part of the solution. It's not a panacea. Not even RJ is a panacea. But we can use every tool we have to address these serious issues.

I believe CEO 2.0 is at all schools. Some schools are actually bringing SROs back essentially by having them there full time in building (unless needed elsewhere in cluster).

As far as other comment about MCPD, they’re trying to leave less serious issues to MCPS to handle (which they should) but MCPS is not doing much about any of it (imo). We’ll get more into that in the next part on the restorative justice practices. These RJ practices can be useful in some circumstances but in others serve to re victimize the victims and don’t provide much accountability to the offenders.

1000% agree

I thought I read that CEO 2.0 is at the discretion of the Principals, so not all schools have the CEO 2.0 where they are allowed to walk the halls.

So, some schools have CEO 2.0. How are they different to SROs? It is just a label change?

ModeratelyMoco wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Haven’t we had enough threads on this? No, I do not want SROs back in schools. They’re not the solution

Really, you do not care about this fact: ???


Public safety is in the gutter due to policies enacted in recent years and our schools are both less safe and teaching students less. . .“SROs were removed from schools in 2021 and violence (second article) and drug use has skyrocketed since in MCPS. Some community members say MCPS was safer with SROs. Following the in MCPS school shooting at Magruder HS, MCPS reconsidered this and eventually came up with CEO 2.0 and brought Community Engagement Officers back into schools. In fact, there is recent data showing that Black and Hispanic students percentage of suspensions for discipline has actually increased since SROs were removed (which is part of the problem removing them was supposed to solve). That article did not go into the violence or other types of suspensions but the full Maryland report can be see here.


PP: when you say you do not care if Black and Hispanic students are expelled at increasing rates, what does that make YOU ?

I am confused why people think this is some smoking gun about removing SROs from schools. There are a lot of other things going on besides the removal of SROs.

Whatever is going on, violence is up. Drug use in bathrooms are out of control.

Why do you think both MCPS and now the County Council are looking into school safety again, and why some MCPS schools have implemented CEO 2.0?

We need all hands on deck, and SROs or CEO 2.0 can be part of the solution. It's not a panacea. Not even RJ is a panacea. But we can use every tool we have to address these serious issues.

I believe CEO 2.0 is at all schools. Some schools are actually bringing SROs back essentially by having them there full time in building (unless needed elsewhere in cluster).

As far as other comment about MCPD, they’re trying to leave less serious issues to MCPS to handle (which they should) but MCPS is not doing much about any of it (imo). We’ll get more into that in the next part on the restorative justice practices. These RJ practices can be useful in some circumstances but in others serve to re victimize the victims and don’t provide much accountability to the offenders.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Haven’t we had enough threads on this? No, I do not want SROs back in schools. They’re not the solution

Really, you do not care about this fact: ???


Public safety is in the gutter due to policies enacted in recent years and our schools are both less safe and teaching students less. . .“SROs were removed from schools in 2021 and violence (second article) and drug use has skyrocketed since in MCPS. Some community members say MCPS was safer with SROs. Following the in MCPS school shooting at Magruder HS, MCPS reconsidered this and eventually came up with CEO 2.0 and brought Community Engagement Officers back into schools. In fact, there is recent data showing that Black and Hispanic students percentage of suspensions for discipline has actually increased since SROs were removed (which is part of the problem removing them was supposed to solve). That article did not go into the violence or other types of suspensions but the full Maryland report can be see here.


PP: when you say you do not care if Black and Hispanic students are expelled at increasing rates, what does that make YOU ?

I am confused why people think this is some smoking gun about removing SROs from schools. There are a lot of other things going on besides the removal of SROs.

Whatever is going on, violence is up. Drug use in bathrooms are out of control.

Why do you think both MCPS and now the County Council are looking into school safety again, and why some MCPS schools have implemented CEO 2.0?

We need all hands on deck, and SROs or CEO 2.0 can be part of the solution. It's not a panacea. Not even RJ is a panacea. But we can use every tool we have to address these serious issues.

It seems like removing SROs had the opposite effect. Things seem to be better judging by their data.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Haven’t we had enough threads on this? No, I do not want SROs back in schools. They’re not the solution

Really, you do not care about this fact: ???


Public safety is in the gutter due to policies enacted in recent years and our schools are both less safe and teaching students less. . .“SROs were removed from schools in 2021 and violence (second article) and drug use has skyrocketed since in MCPS. Some community members say MCPS was safer with SROs. Following the in MCPS school shooting at Magruder HS, MCPS reconsidered this and eventually came up with CEO 2.0 and brought Community Engagement Officers back into schools. In fact, there is recent data showing that Black and Hispanic students percentage of suspensions for discipline has actually increased since SROs were removed (which is part of the problem removing them was supposed to solve). That article did not go into the violence or other types of suspensions but the full Maryland report can be see here.


PP: when you say you do not care if Black and Hispanic students are expelled at increasing rates, what does that make YOU ?

I am confused why people think this is some smoking gun about removing SROs from schools. There are a lot of other things going on besides the removal of SROs.

Whatever is going on, violence is up. Drug use in bathrooms are out of control.

Why do you think both MCPS and now the County Council are looking into school safety again, and why some MCPS schools have implemented CEO 2.0?

We need all hands on deck, and SROs or CEO 2.0 can be part of the solution. It's not a panacea. Not even RJ is a panacea. But we can use every tool we have to address these serious issues.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Haven’t we had enough threads on this? No, I do not want SROs back in schools. They’re not the solution

Really, you do not care about this fact: ???


Public safety is in the gutter due to policies enacted in recent years and our schools are both less safe and teaching students less. . .“SROs were removed from schools in 2021 and violence (second article) and drug use has skyrocketed since in MCPS. Some community members say MCPS was safer with SROs. Following the in MCPS school shooting at Magruder HS, MCPS reconsidered this and eventually came up with CEO 2.0 and brought Community Engagement Officers back into schools. In fact, there is recent data showing that Black and Hispanic students percentage of suspensions for discipline has actually increased since SROs were removed (which is part of the problem removing them was supposed to solve). That article did not go into the violence or other types of suspensions but the full Maryland report can be see here.


PP: when you say you do not care if Black and Hispanic students are expelled at increasing rates, what does that make YOU ?

I am confused why people think this is some smoking gun about removing SROs from schools. There are a lot of other things going on besides the removal of SROs.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Haven’t we had enough threads on this? No, I do not want SROs back in schools. They’re not the solution

Really, you do not care about this fact: ???


Public safety is in the gutter due to policies enacted in recent years and our schools are both less safe and teaching students less. . .“SROs were removed from schools in 2021 and violence (second article) and drug use has skyrocketed since in MCPS. Some community members say MCPS was safer with SROs. Following the in MCPS school shooting at Magruder HS, MCPS reconsidered this and eventually came up with CEO 2.0 and brought Community Engagement Officers back into schools. In fact, there is recent data showing that Black and Hispanic students percentage of suspensions for discipline has actually increased since SROs were removed (which is part of the problem removing them was supposed to solve). That article did not go into the violence or other types of suspensions but the full Maryland report can be see here.


PP: when you say you do not care if Black and Hispanic students are expelled at increasing rates, what does that make YOU ?

I am confused why people think this is some smoking gun about removing SROs from schools. There are a lot of other things going on besides the removal of SROs.

Whatever is going on, violence is up. Drug use in bathrooms are out of control.

Why do you think both MCPS and now the County Council are looking into school safety again, and why some MCPS schools have implemented CEO 2.0?

We need all hands on deck, and SROs or CEO 2.0 can be part of the solution. It's not a panacea. Not even RJ is a panacea. But we can use every tool we have to address these serious issues.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Haven’t we had enough threads on this? No, I do not want SROs back in schools. They’re not the solution

Really, you do not care about this fact: ???


Public safety is in the gutter due to policies enacted in recent years and our schools are both less safe and teaching students less. . .“SROs were removed from schools in 2021 and violence (second article) and drug use has skyrocketed since in MCPS. Some community members say MCPS was safer with SROs. Following the in MCPS school shooting at Magruder HS, MCPS reconsidered this and eventually came up with CEO 2.0 and brought Community Engagement Officers back into schools. In fact, there is recent data showing that Black and Hispanic students percentage of suspensions for discipline has actually increased since SROs were removed (which is part of the problem removing them was supposed to solve). That article did not go into the violence or other types of suspensions but the full Maryland report can be see here.


PP: when you say you do not care if Black and Hispanic students are expelled at increasing rates, what does that make YOU ?

I am confused why people think this is some smoking gun about removing SROs from schools. There are a lot of other things going on besides the removal of SROs.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Haven’t we had enough threads on this? No, I do not want SROs back in schools. They’re not the solution

Really, you do not care about this fact: ???


Public safety is in the gutter due to policies enacted in recent years and our schools are both less safe and teaching students less. . .“SROs were removed from schools in 2021 and violence (second article) and drug use has skyrocketed since in MCPS. Some community members say MCPS was safer with SROs. Following the in MCPS school shooting at Magruder HS, MCPS reconsidered this and eventually came up with CEO 2.0 and brought Community Engagement Officers back into schools. In fact, there is recent data showing that Black and Hispanic students percentage of suspensions for discipline has actually increased since SROs were removed (which is part of the problem removing them was supposed to solve). That article did not go into the violence or other types of suspensions but the full Maryland report can be see here.


PP: when you say you do not care if Black and Hispanic students are expelled at increasing rates, what does that make YOU ?

Anonymous wrote:Haven’t we had enough threads on this? No, I do not want SROs back in schools. They’re not the solution

Anonymous wrote:There’s no way that data is complete. I know of several incidents that didn’t make the list. This is at a W middle.

ModeratelyMoco wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

ModeratelyMoco wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The school data is kind of eye opening in terms of the level and type of problems.

Keep in mind that they only call in the more serious stuff and this is in school only

I think my surprise came from where the volume had been coming from. And seriously, traffic violations being included in a report about violence, theft, sexual assault . . . It was distracting.

I had that thought too

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Anonymous wrote:WOW.

So many rapes (including in an elementary school!), sexual assaults and assault & batteries.

I had no idea.

My point is: who cares about the bias incidents (swastika drawn on a desk, for example, like in my kid's high school) when there is far worse going on!!! It's as if everyone is comfortable talking about that, but no one is comfortable talking about the truly disturbing, trauma-inducing attacks.