Anonymous wrote:so how does the regime go? wash face in am(what do you use?), then vit C, then spf, night-wash face and just tretinoin or do you also then put some moisturizer, almost 50, dry skin, neck sag, more sag than wrinkles...not happy with my mirror HELP

AM: splash face with water, Vit c, moisturizer, then SPF

PM: wash face (and remove makeup if needed), tret, moisturizer

Tret is very drying so you have to follow with moisturizer.

even my DERM it should read.

I SWEAR by La Prarie Serum White Caviar. I know it may be out of most of this demographics price range, but it is works. AMAZINGLY. Even my seem started using if after she saw my skin.

so how does the regime go? wash face in am(what do you use?), then vit C, then spf, night-wash face and just tretinoin or do you also then put some moisturizer, almost 50, dry skin, neck sag, more sag than wrinkles...not happy with my mirror HELP

Skinceuticals ce ferulic - I have tried other brands but keep coming back to the gold standard.

Most people can tolerate retin A if they proceed slowly and build up tolerance for it. And like pp said, don’t introduce vitamin c and retin products at the same time. Unfortunately my skin can’t handle retin A so I use OTC retinol, also Skinceuticals brand. I started lower but I’m now up to their 1.0 immediately followed by a moisturizer.

Prescription Tretinoin and skinsceuticals vitamin c (or Maelove if skinceuticals is out of your price range).

PP: also I tried Maelove's C version and felt it didn't do anything. I also have tried The Ordinary one that's in Vitamin F? K? lol but it never actually turned yellower which is reasonable over time and that too seemed less potent than the Timeless.

Target carries Timeless online and usually better deal; I went back to the 10% Vitamin C serum for mornings as I see more age spots (50s) but frankly my derm said nothing really can prevent those. Target fyi does also have a date on the products and sure you can keep the C in the fridge. Be sure to use spf during the day.

Anyone use TRader Joes? They are both cheap, which is concerning in terms of quality/effectiveness, though both come in heavy dark bottles. The retinol seems like it is doing something. I'm only using the c on a dark spot and it is having some effect.

Probably need to replace now, only halfway through the bottles, because of instability, but I don't mind so much since they are less expensive.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I worry that Timeless isn’t quality controlled and arrives with the vitc C unstable to about to become unstable and ineffective.

Has anyone tried Mad Hippie or Maelove?

I've read that with Timeless it's best to buy directly from them because you don't know what shelf or truck the stuff coming from Amazon has been sitting on and for how long. If you order direct, you know you're getting fresh product that was temperature controlled until it got on the delivery route.

I only buy directly from them. Their products are already very fairly priced, and they also run great sales often 40-50% off. Amazon sucks. I try not to use them unless it's just one-off product where it would cost me more time and money if I had to go to the store to purchase or if I needed it immediately.

Anonymous wrote:I use Paula’s Choice .3% retinol plus bakuchiol. I do not have a derm who will prescribe retinol to prevent wrinkles (I’m active duty). I will probably try the Paula’s choice 1% next, but I wanted to go slow.

I haven’t found a vitamin c that makes a visible difference, but of the ones I’ve tried, Keihls is my favorite.

Just to be clear, you should ask the derm for retinol for ACNE. That is how your insurance company will cover (some) of the cost. It is not covered for wrinkles.

Anonymous wrote:I worry that Timeless isn’t quality controlled and arrives with the vitc C unstable to about to become unstable and ineffective.

Has anyone tried Mad Hippie or Maelove?

I've read that with Timeless it's best to buy directly from them because you don't know what shelf or truck the stuff coming from Amazon has been sitting on and for how long. If you order direct, you know you're getting fresh product that was temperature controlled until it got on the delivery route.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I worry that Timeless isn’t quality controlled and arrives with the vitc C unstable to about to become unstable and ineffective.

Has anyone tried Mad Hippie or Maelove?

I order directly from Timeless and never had a problem with quality control. Mine is also clear in color from the first day I use, until the last drop. I tried Maelove once and did not like.

I switched from Skinceuticals to maelove and think the maelove is better. Same impact on skin and smells better.

Anonymous wrote:I worry that Timeless isn’t quality controlled and arrives with the vitc C unstable to about to become unstable and ineffective.

Has anyone tried Mad Hippie or Maelove?

I order directly from Timeless and never had a problem with quality control. Mine is also clear in color from the first day I use, until the last drop. I tried Maelove once and did not like.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I worry that Timeless isn’t quality controlled and arrives with the vitc C unstable to about to become unstable and ineffective.

Has anyone tried Mad Hippie or Maelove?

Why do you say this? I've been using Timeless for 3 years, never have I had an issue with their product arriving old, or lasting a long time while staying fresh. They have dates on their packages as well.

Do you refrigerate it?

No but I do keep it in a dark space. I use it every day.