Anonymous
Post 03/14/2023 15:04     Subject: Anyone else notice that “white ethnics” are more maga than DAR/mayflower/wasp types?
The "spicy whites," Jews, Italians, Greeks who have historically had only conditional "whiteness" in this country and, thus, formed the backbone of the old left are sadly leeching into the Republican party in greater numbers, and have done, since Reagan. Part of this is fundamentalism in religion that is making these communities more religious and more rightward - just like America as a whole, and part of it is the conversion of America into a service-based economy, etc.
Anonymous
Post 03/14/2023 14:43     Subject: Anyone else notice that “white ethnics” are more maga than DAR/mayflower/wasp types?
Anonymous wrote:Aren’t Jews “white ethnic”? Because Democrats continue to dominate the Jewish vote.


No

https://blogs.timesofisrael.com/ashkenazi-jews-are-not-white-response-to-haaretz-article/

https://forward.com/community/405016/no-ashkenazi-jews-are-not-functionally-white/

Anonymous
Post 03/14/2023 14:35     Subject: Re:Anyone else notice that “white ethnics” are more maga than DAR/mayflower/wasp types?
Well, you know, wasp types have had centuries longer to practice racism, white supremacy, sexism, and all that.
Anonymous
Post 03/14/2023 14:34     Subject: Anyone else notice that “white ethnics” are more maga than DAR/mayflower/wasp types?
Anonymous wrote:Mayflower et al types tend to lionize the Founders, the Union and propriety. January 6th, the MAGA personalities and the neo-Confederacy are anathema to them.


Because the Mayflower types are rich. They aren’t affected by bad Dem policies.
Anonymous
Post 03/14/2023 14:31     Subject: Anyone else notice that “white ethnics” are more maga than DAR/mayflower/wasp types?
Mayflower et al types tend to lionize the Founders, the Union and propriety. January 6th, the MAGA personalities and the neo-Confederacy are anathema to them.
Anonymous
Post 03/14/2023 14:30     Subject: Anyone else notice that “white ethnics” are more maga than DAR/mayflower/wasp types?
Aren’t Jews “white ethnic”? Because Democrats continue to dominate the Jewish vote.
Anonymous
Post 03/14/2023 14:25     Subject: Anyone else notice that “white ethnics” are more maga than DAR/mayflower/wasp types?
Anonymous wrote:

Keep telling them you think they’re racist, I’m sure that’ll do the trick.


The real trick is finding issues they care about and then telling them they shouldn't care about those issues
Anonymous
Post 03/14/2023 14:23     Subject: Re:Anyone else notice that “white ethnics” are more maga than DAR/mayflower/wasp types?
Look the neighborhood I grew up in went from 75% Hispanic in 2000 to 96% Hispanic in 2017. This has correlated in the schools becoming much lower-performing. That district isn’t in a major city; it doesn’t have the resources to deal with that kind of surge in illegal immigration. My hometown is 85% white, mostly Irish & Italian.
Anonymous
Post 03/14/2023 14:21     Subject: Anyone else notice that “white ethnics” are more maga than DAR/mayflower/wasp types?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Yes. I live in Upstate NY and the Republican Party is dominated by Italian-Americans. Honestly it’s just pure racism.


Keep telling them you think they’re racist, I’m sure that’ll do the trick.
Anonymous
Post 03/14/2023 14:21     Subject: Re:Anyone else notice that “white ethnics” are more maga than DAR/mayflower/wasp types?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The Italians in NY/NJ have resisted the D trend of suburbia. Nassau, Suffolk, Bergen etc. should be 10 points more D than they actually are. The difference seems to be the Italian vote.


This is basically what we have in the Boston suburbs too


The Boston suburbs are a lot more D than NYC suburbs though. Is there a discernible Italian vote in the Boston area?


Absolutely. North of Boston along the coast. Lots of trumpers
Anonymous
Post 03/14/2023 14:20     Subject: Anyone else notice that “white ethnics” are more maga than DAR/mayflower/wasp types?
Anonymous wrote:Yes. I live in Upstate NY and the Republican Party is dominated by Italian-Americans. Honestly it’s just pure racism.


Lots of democrats are driven by racism towards white people. Once the white population drops, white women will be in the same category as white evil men. White woman vote for D will not be needed.
Anonymous
Post 03/14/2023 14:16     Subject: Re:Anyone else notice that “white ethnics” are more maga than DAR/mayflower/wasp types?
White Scots-Irish folks in NJ, PA, WV, ME, NY aren’t exactly living that white privileged life.
Anonymous
Post 03/14/2023 14:16     Subject: Re:Anyone else notice that “white ethnics” are more maga than DAR/mayflower/wasp types?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The Italians in NY/NJ have resisted the D trend of suburbia. Nassau, Suffolk, Bergen etc. should be 10 points more D than they actually are. The difference seems to be the Italian vote.


This is basically what we have in the Boston suburbs too


The Boston suburbs are a lot more D than NYC suburbs though. Is there a discernible Italian vote in the Boston area?


A lot more Italians in Providence RI than the Boston area.

The Boston Herald was priming white male union workers for Trump for at least 20 years prior to 2016.
Anonymous
Post 03/14/2023 14:15     Subject: Re:Anyone else notice that “white ethnics” are more maga than DAR/mayflower/wasp types?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The Italians in NY/NJ have resisted the D trend of suburbia. Nassau, Suffolk, Bergen etc. should be 10 points more D than they actually are. The difference seems to be the Italian vote.


This is basically what we have in the Boston suburbs too


The Boston suburbs are a lot more D than NYC suburbs though. Is there a discernible Italian vote in the Boston area?
Anonymous
Post 03/14/2023 14:12     Subject: Anyone else notice that “white ethnics” are more maga than DAR/mayflower/wasp types?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Democrats decided they no longer cared about blue collar union workers. Those workers are voting republican now


Which makes no sense since the GOP hasn't met a union it didn't want to bust.


And democrats haven't seen a steel mill or a coal mine that they didn't want to regulate out of existence. That's before we get to NAFTA (kind of surprising that the party who is supposedly pro-labor is also the anti-protectionist party) or non-economic issues


You mean the steel mills that didn't update their production methods and the coal mines that slowly killed their workers while having them live in abject poverty? That wasn't the Democrats.