Anonymous
03/13/2023 10:24
Subject: Re:Why was Jesus crucified ? ( Legally speaking )
Anonymous wrote:The actual charge is apparently lost to history, but strong evidence suggests that it was sedition (Jesus claiming to be king). Both Herod’s government and the Romans were afraid that the large crowds in the area for Passover would: 1. Crown Jesus king (Herod’s fear); and 2. Riot on behalf of Jesus and trigger violent clashes with Roman troops, displeasing Caesar (Pilate’s fear).
He was a political hot potato and neither Herod nor Pilate wanted to be responsible for his execution, potentially running afoul of popular sentiment. But it turned out that the largely non local crowds in the area for Passover supported the increasingly harsh punishments Pilate suggested, all the way through execution. Political problem solved.
Seriously? Where are you getting this info from? Because this is, again, antisemitism. Let's look at what you said piece-by-piece:
"But it turned out that the largely non-local [foreigners, others, not "us," scapegoats] crowds in the area for Passover [i.e. Jews] supported the increasingly harsh punishments Pilate suggested, all the way through execution [a Jewish mob killed Jesus]."
Anonymous
03/13/2023 09:35
Subject: Why was Jesus crucified ? ( Legally speaking )
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Please don’t take any of the responses you get here as truth. This is a terrible place for people to learn anything about Christianity.
It’s a question about history, not belief.
So why ask in a religion forum?
Take it up with Jeff.
Anonymous
03/13/2023 09:35
Subject: Re:Why was Jesus crucified ? ( Legally speaking )
The actual charge is apparently lost to history, but strong evidence suggests that it was sedition (Jesus claiming to be king). Both Herod’s government and the Romans were afraid that the large crowds in the area for Passover would: 1. Crown Jesus king (Herod’s fear); and 2. Riot on behalf of Jesus and trigger violent clashes with Roman troops, displeasing Caesar (Pilate’s fear).
He was a political hot potato and neither Herod nor Pilate wanted to be responsible for his execution, potentially running afoul of popular sentiment. But it turned out that the largely non local crowds in the area for Passover supported the increasingly harsh punishments Pilate suggested, all the way through execution. Political problem solved.
He was a political hot potato and neither Herod nor Pilate wanted to be responsible for his execution, potentially running afoul of popular sentiment. But it turned out that the largely non local crowds in the area for Passover supported the increasingly harsh punishments Pilate suggested, all the way through execution. Political problem solved.
Anonymous
03/13/2023 09:27
Subject: Why was Jesus crucified ? ( Legally speaking )
Ancient historian here. The truth is that they couldn’t actually convict him for blasphemy for technical reasons, so the final charges were tax evasion and practicing without a license.
Anonymous
03/13/2023 09:25
Subject: Why was Jesus crucified ? ( Legally speaking )
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Please don’t take any of the responses you get here as truth. This is a terrible place for people to learn anything about Christianity.
It’s a question about history, not belief.
So why ask in a religion forum?
Anonymous
03/13/2023 09:02
Subject: Why was Jesus crucified ? ( Legally speaking )
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Please don’t take any of the responses you get here as truth. This is a terrible place for people to learn anything about Christianity.
Why didn't YOU answer the question?
Not OP
Because op can and should read about history and learn about the answer independently.
Many people posting here give opinion based, incorrect answers to questions like this.
PP seems to have left that but of advice out of their response to OP
Just a general slam against this board without providing the superior knowledge they may claim to hold
No, don’t believe anything you read on the internet, especially in an anonymous forum, without independently confirming the information from reliable sources.
Lots of people claim to have superior knowledge. Lots of people who claim that, don’t.
This forum is for discussion, not gaining knowledge, being educated, etc, because completely random, anonymous people post here.
But there is collective wisdom to be found.
It is like crowed-sourcing.
Anonymous
03/13/2023 08:42
Subject: Why was Jesus crucified ? ( Legally speaking )
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:To elaborate on 22:07, there was some sort of law where the Jewish people could save someone (like get a pardon) and Pilate was trying to offer that so he could have a way out and spare him. The people in the crowd picked Barabbas (some bad dude) instead. I recall Pilate was surprised at this.
OP, if you go read the story rather than rely on DCUM (including me, who is going off memory) it should answer your question
"The story" is deeply antisemitic. I think/hope OP is looking for actual historical information and not a regurgitation of "the Jews killed Jesus" that can be found in "the story."
Yes,
I am asking the Roman legal case against Jesus.
There was no official charge or trial. He was tried by mob. This was 2,000 years ago.
Anonymous
03/13/2023 08:39
Subject: Why was Jesus crucified ? ( Legally speaking )
Anonymous wrote:Please don’t take any of the responses you get here as truth. This is a terrible place for people to learn anything about Christianity.
It’s a question about history, not belief.
Anonymous
03/13/2023 08:36
Subject: Why was Jesus crucified ? ( Legally speaking )
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:To elaborate on 22:07, there was some sort of law where the Jewish people could save someone (like get a pardon) and Pilate was trying to offer that so he could have a way out and spare him. The people in the crowd picked Barabbas (some bad dude) instead. I recall Pilate was surprised at this.
OP, if you go read the story rather than rely on DCUM (including me, who is going off memory) it should answer your question
"The story" is deeply antisemitic. I think/hope OP is looking for actual historical information and not a regurgitation of "the Jews killed Jesus" that can be found in "the story."
Yes,
I am asking the Roman legal case against Jesus.
Anonymous
03/13/2023 08:33
Subject: Why was Jesus crucified ? ( Legally speaking )
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:To elaborate on 22:07, there was some sort of law where the Jewish people could save someone (like get a pardon) and Pilate was trying to offer that so he could have a way out and spare him. The people in the crowd picked Barabbas (some bad dude) instead. I recall Pilate was surprised at this.
OP, if you go read the story rather than rely on DCUM (including me, who is going off memory) it should answer your question
"The story" is deeply antisemitic. I think/hope OP is looking for actual historical information and not a regurgitation of "the Jews killed Jesus" that can be found in "the story."
op should not seek answers here. plenty of places online with good information from reputable and knowledgeable sources based on historical evidence.
Anonymous
03/13/2023 08:31
Subject: Why was Jesus crucified ? ( Legally speaking )
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Please don’t take any of the responses you get here as truth. This is a terrible place for people to learn anything about Christianity.
Why didn't YOU answer the question?
Not OP
Because op can and should read about history and learn about the answer independently.
Many people posting here give opinion based, incorrect answers to questions like this.
PP seems to have left that but of advice out of their response to OP
Just a general slam against this board without providing the superior knowledge they may claim to hold
No, don’t believe anything you read on the internet, especially in an anonymous forum, without independently confirming the information from reliable sources.
Lots of people claim to have superior knowledge. Lots of people who claim that, don’t.
This forum is for discussion, not gaining knowledge, being educated, etc, because completely random, anonymous people post here.
Anonymous
03/13/2023 08:06
Subject: Why was Jesus crucified ? ( Legally speaking )
Anonymous wrote:To elaborate on 22:07, there was some sort of law where the Jewish people could save someone (like get a pardon) and Pilate was trying to offer that so he could have a way out and spare him. The people in the crowd picked Barabbas (some bad dude) instead. I recall Pilate was surprised at this.
OP, if you go read the story rather than rely on DCUM (including me, who is going off memory) it should answer your question
"The story" is deeply antisemitic. I think/hope OP is looking for actual historical information and not a regurgitation of "the Jews killed Jesus" that can be found in "the story."
Anonymous
03/13/2023 08:03
Subject: Re:Why was Jesus crucified ? ( Legally speaking )
*bit
Anonymous
03/13/2023 08:02
Subject: Why was Jesus crucified ? ( Legally speaking )
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Please don’t take any of the responses you get here as truth. This is a terrible place for people to learn anything about Christianity.
Why didn't YOU answer the question?
Not OP
Because op can and should read about history and learn about the answer independently.
Many people posting here give opinion based, incorrect answers to questions like this.
PP seems to have left that but of advice out of their response to OP
Just a general slam against this board without providing the superior knowledge they may claim to hold
Anonymous
03/13/2023 07:29
Subject: Why was Jesus crucified ? ( Legally speaking )
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Please don’t take any of the responses you get here as truth. This is a terrible place for people to learn anything about Christianity.
Why didn't YOU answer the question?
Not OP
Because op can and should read about history and learn about the answer independently.
Many people posting here give opinion based, incorrect answers to questions like this.