Crazy junk show. Can’t believe how much they relied on Jeff guy. He is all fiction.

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Anonymous wrote:Did anyone watch this? They review the theories. In hindsight, what sounds the most plausible to you?

I think the US shot it down for some reason.

Old DCUM thread: https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/368394.page

Not that the US shot it down "for some reason."

I think the likeliest explanation is the pilot had a death wish for some reason and crashed it into the ocean. Since rescuers were looking in the wrong place after the initial disappearance the wreckage dispersed or sank.

Agreed, by far the likeliest scenario is the pilot.

I don't believe for a second the US shot it down. What would be the reason? Second, if it was a mistake, the US would own up to it or another country
country would out them. There have been examples of accidental bombings in the past without a grand coverup.

The US didn't own up to TWA 800.

USG had nothing to do with TWA 800. The fuel tank exploded. Fuel tank designs were changed as a result of the investigation.

Just finished it.

The biggest data point debunking Russian involvement is that the guy who made that claim is still alive. The second biggest is that the Russian nationals that he speculates could have been involved are not publicly identified. The identity of the Skripal poisoners was publicly released after Bellingcat dug into it. There's no way that something similar would not have happened here.

Everyone talks about the pilot being a great guy and how he couldn't do this, but I'd expect his loved ones, colleagues, and in this case, employer, to say that. And there's an element of mental self-preservation there as well.

I felt like there were a lot of things presented in this as established facts, but then I kept wondering where I missed how it was established. The AWACS planes being the main one. Seems like the source for that is the mysterious guy the French survivor met? Even if the US wouldn't officially confirm it I'd think that's another fact that could probably be proven via open source. They have to take off and land from somewhere - and we only have 31 of them?

I first posted that I think the pilot did it, and I still think that. Lots of reasons, but one of the main ones is that no one has come forward in 10 years with any knowledge that has panned out. You can shut a few people up here and there, but not the amount of people you would need to keep quiet if Russians landed the plane in Kazakhstan or it was shot down. Neither of those things happens in a vacuum and someone or many someones would have come forward.

Anonymous wrote:Why would the pilot drive for 6 hours to suicide? Why not go down immediately?

He didn't drive.

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Anonymous wrote:I think it’s super weird that the American man with Russian ties just kept randomly finding plane parts within 30 minutes of being on certain beaches. And I’m not usually a conspiracy theorist.

It is strange. And then not having the id plates on them, as one of the journalists noted.

ID plates. Do you really think that when aircraft are built, they fasten a bunch of "ID plates", whatever that is, to the parts, panels, etc?

I couldn’t make it til the end of the first episode because it became clear this was about peoples’ ‘theories’ that they turn into fictional dramatizations. Look, knowledgeable aviation people discussed the Inmarsat arcs, debris, etc. I don’t think there was an agreed upon explanation and all this *show* does is turn tragedy into entertainment. Netflix is really dumb sometimes.

Lithium ion batteries blew it to little pieces hence no wreckage being found or the pilot nose dived the plane from 35000 feet which would also leave little wreckage.

No proof if actually flew over an air base. That was speculation. No one knows the precise flight path. The French reporter simply wanted to sell her book.

I thought it was the pilot until watching this; now I'm not sure.

The idea that it flew over a military base without detection, and all these countries, etc. does make it seem far-fetched. I hadn't thought about Russia's attack on Crimea, and the other Malaysian plane that the Russians accidentally shot down 4 months later. I wonder if they accidentally shot down this plane as well. They are not exactly organized. Or did it to distract the world from Crimea.

However; I think the idea of three Russians getting into the bowels of the plane to take over the plane etc is too complicated and don't really think the Russian culture is such that they are expecting 72 virgins on the other end. But hate that Netflix has shown every nutjob how to climb into the "brains" of the plane.

I also don't think the theory of tihe US shooting it down makes sense, because I don't think the pilot would have ignored military aircraft ordering the plane to turn around or be shot down.

Nnot explored on Netflix is maybe rather than something top secret, there was just something explosive in the baggage that was not x-rayed. That's a fairly straightforward explanation.

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Anonymous wrote:Did anyone watch this? They review the theories. In hindsight, what sounds the most plausible to you?

I think the US shot it down for some reason.

Old DCUM thread: https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/368394.page

Not that the US shot it down "for some reason."

I think the likeliest explanation is the pilot had a death wish for some reason and crashed it into the ocean. Since rescuers were looking in the wrong place after the initial disappearance the wreckage dispersed or sank.

Agreed, by far the likeliest scenario is the pilot.

I don't believe for a second the US shot it down. What would be the reason? Second, if it was a mistake, the US would own up to it or another country
country would out them. There have been examples of accidental bombings in the past without a grand coverup.

The US didn't own up to TWA 800.

What did the US do to TWA 800

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Anonymous wrote:Did anyone watch this? They review the theories. In hindsight, what sounds the most plausible to you?

I think the US shot it down for some reason.

Old DCUM thread: https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/368394.page

Not that the US shot it down "for some reason."

I think the likeliest explanation is the pilot had a death wish for some reason and crashed it into the ocean. Since rescuers were looking in the wrong place after the initial disappearance the wreckage dispersed or sank.

Agreed, by far the likeliest scenario is the pilot.

I don't believe for a second the US shot it down. What would be the reason? Second, if it was a mistake, the US would own up to it or another country
country would out them. There have been examples of accidental bombings in the past without a grand coverup.

The US didn't own up to TWA 800.

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Anonymous wrote:I think it’s super weird that the American man with Russian ties just kept randomly finding plane parts within 30 minutes of being on certain beaches. And I’m not usually a conspiracy theorist.

It’s a Netflix documentary designed to blame Russia to try and justify our getting involved in the war in Ukraine.

PP here. The Russian spin was annoying and overdone. But the situation with Gibson is beyond bizarre and did seem too coincidental for my taste.

It’s worth noting that same year Russian did shot down a plane over Ukraine. But imo that’s a different situation.

The French father, who I really felt sorry for (I felt for all the victims’ families) thought the FBI was in on it.

French think the FBI are in on everything

Up until a year or two ago you could put your phone in reader mode and get all the articles for free. Most publications have fixed that glitch but it still works occasional.

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Anonymous wrote:Why would the pilot drive for 6 hours to suicide? Why not go down immediately?

Fly. And he didn’t. Likely, when the co-pilot left the cockpit for something, the pilot put on his oxygen mask and turned off the plane’s oxygen supply. Everyone else was unconscious in seconds. The pilot eventually ran out of oxygen, and the plane cruised until it crashed.

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Everyone should read the 2019 Atlantic article which is very thorough and good.

The data would leave one to believe that yes, he did kill everyone on the flight quickly by rapidly ascending to 40,000 feet, around the time he made the turn south and de-pressurizing the cabin. He may have worn his oxygen mask (which would sustain him for hours, unlike passengers' which only work for 15-20 minutes) or re-pressurized the cabin.

Also, the data show that the plane did not glide down but nose-dived into the ocean (which would have been done by a person, not by running out of fuel), essentially turning it to confetti. This is why there's so little debris.

The article haunted me for a long time and sealed the case shut (in my mind). I don't know how I read it for free back then, seems to be a paid thing now.

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2019/07/mh370-malaysia-airlines/590653/

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Anonymous wrote:Why would the pilot drive for 6 hours to suicide? Why not go down immediately?

Fly. And he didn’t. Likely, when the co-pilot left the cockpit for something, the pilot put on his oxygen mask and turned off the plane’s oxygen supply. Everyone else was unconscious in seconds. The pilot eventually ran out of oxygen, and the plane cruised until it crashed.

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Everyone should read the 2019 Atlantic article which is very thorough and good.

The data would leave one to believe that yes, he did kill everyone on the flight quickly by rapidly ascending to 40,000 feet, around the time he made the turn south and de-pressurizing the cabin. He may have worn his oxygen mask (which would sustain him for hours, unlike passengers' which only work for 15-20 minutes) or re-pressurized the cabin.

Also, the data show that the plane did not glide down but nose-dived into the ocean (which would have been done by a person, not by running out of fuel), essentially turning it to confetti. This is why there's so little debris.

Anonymous wrote:Why would the pilot drive for 6 hours to suicide? Why not go down immediately?

Fly. And he didn’t. Likely, when the co-pilot left the cockpit for something, the pilot put on his oxygen mask and turned off the plane’s oxygen supply. Everyone else was unconscious in seconds. The pilot eventually ran out of oxygen, and the plane cruised until it crashed.

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