Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I am an alum of one of the schools in Roland Park and pretty much my entire family went to one of the Roland Park schools or McDonogh. I think people are right to say that it is tough to do an apples to apples comparison with DC. The biggest thing I would say is that the top kids from each school, despite the schools reputation for academic rigor, got into top schools. These schools also do not have an abundance of applicants where they are rejecting hoards of students or can fill classes with kids guaranteed to get 1500s on their SATs (this is the impression I am starting to get from the DC schools). Each school really emphasized fit. And a lot of my friends seemed to go to one school over another simple because it was close by or they had a family member (like a cousin) already going there. When I was there in the aughts, this was what the rep was for each school:
The Roland Park 5
Gilman - old money, elitist, more
academically rigorous
Boys Latin - lax jocks, less academically rigorous with more
emphasis on smaller class sizes/saying they were a family
Friends - art types with more programs focused on dance, music, etc. also the only coed school in the Roland Park 5. Emphasized quicker values.
Bryn Mawr - girl Gilman with a little less elitism and similar academic rigor
Roland Park Country School - girl Gilman with a little more focus on athletics with slightly less academic rigor
Catholic Schools (don’t know these reps as well)
Calvert Hall - large student body, opposite of elitist
Loyola - most elite catholic school (but not like in the same sense as gilman)
NDP - jocks
Maryvale - smallest student body catholic school
Burb Schools
Garrison Forest - wealthy (polo arena and boarders); skewed less academically rigorous
Park - Jewish artsy kids (I don’t think it ever had a religious affiliation unlike most the other schools, which is why it skews jewish)
St Paul’s - new money and skewed towards lax jocks
McDonogh - Similar to Gilman but coed and campus has more of a country feel due to location; felt less elitist and old moneyish/WASPy
There are other schools like St Tims and Oldfields that I really know nothing about.
It’s funny that people consider Maryvale “Baltimore” and St Paul’s a “burb school.”
St Paul’s is actually closer to the Baltimore Beltway than Maryvale is. They and St Tim’s are all within about two miles of each other
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I am an alum of one of the schools in Roland Park and pretty much my entire family went to one of the Roland Park schools or McDonogh. I think people are right to say that it is tough to do an apples to apples comparison with DC. The biggest thing I would say is that the top kids from each school, despite the schools reputation for academic rigor, got into top schools. These schools also do not have an abundance of applicants where they are rejecting hoards of students or can fill classes with kids guaranteed to get 1500s on their SATs (this is the impression I am starting to get from the DC schools). Each school really emphasized fit. And a lot of my friends seemed to go to one school over another simple because it was close by or they had a family member (like a cousin) already going there. When I was there in the aughts, this was what the rep was for each school:
The Roland Park 5
Gilman - old money, elitist, more
academically rigorous
Boys Latin - lax jocks, less academically rigorous with more
emphasis on smaller class sizes/saying they were a family
Friends - art types with more programs focused on dance, music, etc. also the only coed school in the Roland Park 5. Emphasized quicker values.
Bryn Mawr - girl Gilman with a little less elitism and similar academic rigor
Roland Park Country School - girl Gilman with a little more focus on athletics with slightly less academic rigor
Catholic Schools (don’t know these reps as well)
Calvert Hall - large student body, opposite of elitist
Loyola - most elite catholic school (but not like in the same sense as gilman)
NDP - jocks
Maryvale - smallest student body catholic school
Burb Schools
Garrison Forest - wealthy (polo arena and boarders); skewed less academically rigorous
Park - Jewish artsy kids (I don’t think it ever had a religious affiliation unlike most the other schools, which is why it skews jewish)
St Paul’s - new money and skewed towards lax jocks
McDonogh - Similar to Gilman but coed and campus has more of a country feel due to location; felt less elitist and old moneyish/WASPy
There are other schools like St Tims and Oldfields that I really know nothing about.
It’s funny that people consider Maryvale “Baltimore” and St Paul’s a “burb school.”
St Paul’s is actually closer to the Baltimore Beltway than Maryvale is. They and St Tim’s are all within about two miles of each other
Anonymous wrote:I am an alum of one of the schools in Roland Park and pretty much my entire family went to one of the Roland Park schools or McDonogh. I think people are right to say that it is tough to do an apples to apples comparison with DC. The biggest thing I would say is that the top kids from each school, despite the schools reputation for academic rigor, got into top schools. These schools also do not have an abundance of applicants where they are rejecting hoards of students or can fill classes with kids guaranteed to get 1500s on their SATs (this is the impression I am starting to get from the DC schools). Each school really emphasized fit. And a lot of my friends seemed to go to one school over another simple because it was close by or they had a family member (like a cousin) already going there. When I was there in the aughts, this was what the rep was for each school:
The Roland Park 5
Gilman - old money, elitist, more
academically rigorous
Boys Latin - lax jocks, less academically rigorous with more
emphasis on smaller class sizes/saying they were a family
Friends - art types with more programs focused on dance, music, etc. also the only coed school in the Roland Park 5. Emphasized quicker values.
Bryn Mawr - girl Gilman with a little less elitism and similar academic rigor
Roland Park Country School - girl Gilman with a little more focus on athletics with slightly less academic rigor
Catholic Schools (don’t know these reps as well)
Calvert Hall - large student body, opposite of elitist
Loyola - most elite catholic school (but not like in the same sense as gilman)
NDP - jocks
Maryvale - smallest student body catholic school
Burb Schools
Garrison Forest - wealthy (polo arena and boarders); skewed less academically rigorous
Park - Jewish artsy kids (I don’t think it ever had a religious affiliation unlike most the other schools, which is why it skews jewish)
St Paul’s - new money and skewed towards lax jocks
McDonogh - Similar to Gilman but coed and campus has more of a country feel due to location; felt less elitist and old moneyish/WASPy
There are other schools like St Tims and Oldfields that I really know nothing about.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I would remove Gilman until they are cleared of wrongdoing
I wonder how many families declined acceptances due to wrongdoing at Gilman.
Anonymous wrote:How would you rank your obsession with rankings?
Anonymous wrote:Girls: Bryn Mawr, Roland Park, St. Paul’s, Garrison Forest
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Girls: Bryn Mawr, Roland Park, St. Paul’s, Garrison Forest
That can't be right. You need an odd number.
Anonymous wrote:Is there some kind of rule against having an even number of "Big" Schools? I have always wondered why people don't talk about the Big 4 or Big 6, and now we're assuming Baltimore must have an odd number too? Does Wichita have an odd number? How about NYC?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Things have shifted a bit over the years. Friends isn't quite the academic powerhouse it was 25 years ago, having priced themselves out of a highly educated but not highly paid demographic that now mostly goes to public schools. Even Park has slipped in that sense. While schools like Gilman and Bryn Mawr had a long history among socially prominent Baltimoreans, even that has changed greatly in the last decade.
I'd rank the schools as follows - strictly by academic outcome as measured in college placements, NOT in any sense of superiority, AND it's because the schools get the kids more likely to go to an Ivy, NOT because the schools are able to turn a dullard into an Ivy bound student.
Tier 1: Gilman, Bryn Mawr, McDonogh
Tier 2: Everyone else.
Anonymous wrote:Things have shifted a bit over the years. Friends isn't quite the academic powerhouse it was 25 years ago, having priced themselves out of a highly educated but not highly paid demographic that now mostly goes to public schools. Even Park has slipped in that sense. While schools like Gilman and Bryn Mawr had a long history among socially prominent Baltimoreans, even that has changed greatly in the last decade.
I'd rank the schools as follows - strictly by academic outcome as measured in college placements, NOT in any sense of superiority, AND it's because the schools get the kids more likely to go to an Ivy, NOT because the schools are able to turn a dullard into an Ivy bound student.
Tier 1: Gilman, Bryn Mawr, McDonogh
Tier 2: Everyone else.
Anonymous wrote:Girls: Bryn Mawr, Roland Park, St. Paul’s, Garrison Forest