Anonymous
Post 03/05/2023 09:41     Subject: Who has the right of way in this situation?
Anonymous wrote:

Love this!
Anonymous
Post 03/05/2023 09:36     Subject: Re:Who has the right of way in this situation?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:In this situation I would drive around and come from the other direction to avoid the frustration of waiting in a long line to turn left.

Yes, the right turn has the right of way. If you are turning left across traffic, you need to wait until it's clear. If it's a four way stop sign, then you go by who got there first. If you got there at the same time, the person on the right goes.


So what happens when traffic NEVER clears? There's always a line of people turning right.


Eventually it will clear or just loop around to get into the right turn lane.
Anonymous
Post 03/05/2023 09:21     Subject: Who has the right of way in this situation?
Anonymous
Post 03/05/2023 09:21     Subject: Who has the right of way in this situation?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Do NOT yield the right-of-way ever. It only leads to accidents. We all have to follow the procedures so we all know what the other guy is going to do. We don't need guessing games brought on by "trying to be nice".


I agree so very hard. People think they're being sweet but they're actually putting everyone in danger. Predictable driving behavior is safe driving behavior.


This is the dumbest thing I've ever heard. I recently took a defensive driving course that involved the state police and they would disagree with you. You should always yield the right of way. Not doing so is a cause of accidents. However, you should NOT expect that other drivers will yield the right of way.


You are misusing the term or simply misunderstanding. The person with the right of way should proceed. Always. Doing otherwise makes the entire interaction unpredictable for every other driver and creates danger. Your understanding would essentially mean that the rules of the road should ALWAYS be violated. Which is, obviously nonsense.


In other words: you should yield TO the driver with the right of way. That driver should not yield the right of way to you.


+100. I hope the person getting this mixed up gets it now.
Anonymous
Post 02/28/2023 17:14     Subject: Who has the right of way in this situation?
If you are attempting to make a left turn at an intersection, you must yield the right of way to traffic in the opposing lane.
Anonymous
Post 02/28/2023 17:12     Subject: Who has the right of way in this situation?
OP, is this a school or an imaginary shopping center?
If the former, someone in uniform should be out directly these turns. This happens at a school near me (helps with crosswalk and the cars turning).

If it is the latter, then I would follow the whole yield protocol described above. If you happen to be in the left lane hoping for a break I would approach from other direction or go into another entry point.
Anonymous
Post 02/28/2023 17:08     Subject: Who has the right of way in this situation?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Do NOT yield the right-of-way ever. It only leads to accidents. We all have to follow the procedures so we all know what the other guy is going to do. We don't need guessing games brought on by "trying to be nice".


I agree so very hard. People think they're being sweet but they're actually putting everyone in danger. Predictable driving behavior is safe driving behavior.


Agree as well. It is not YOUR right of way yield. It is the right of way, and it makes things confusing to yield. If someone's gonna cut you off, sure, yield to avoid an accident.

The folks coming from the left can turn at the next light and wait in line. That's what I would do as it's far less stressful.
Anonymous
Post 02/28/2023 17:06     Subject: Who has the right of way in this situation?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Do NOT yield the right-of-way ever. It only leads to accidents. We all have to follow the procedures so we all know what the other guy is going to do. We don't need guessing games brought on by "trying to be nice".


I agree so very hard. People think they're being sweet but they're actually putting everyone in danger. Predictable driving behavior is safe driving behavior.


This is the dumbest thing I've ever heard. I recently took a defensive driving course that involved the state police and they would disagree with you. You should always yield the right of way. Not doing so is a cause of accidents. However, you should NOT expect that other drivers will yield the right of way.


You are misusing the term or simply misunderstanding. The person with the right of way should proceed. Always. Doing otherwise makes the entire interaction unpredictable for every other driver and creates danger. Your understanding would essentially mean that the rules of the road should ALWAYS be violated. Which is, obviously nonsense.


In other words: you should yield TO the driver with the right of way. That driver should not yield the right of way to you.
Anonymous
Post 02/28/2023 17:05     Subject: Who has the right of way in this situation?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Do NOT yield the right-of-way ever. It only leads to accidents. We all have to follow the procedures so we all know what the other guy is going to do. We don't need guessing games brought on by "trying to be nice".


I agree so very hard. People think they're being sweet but they're actually putting everyone in danger. Predictable driving behavior is safe driving behavior.


This is the dumbest thing I've ever heard. I recently took a defensive driving course that involved the state police and they would disagree with you. You should always yield the right of way. Not doing so is a cause of accidents. However, you should NOT expect that other drivers will yield the right of way.


You are misusing the term or simply misunderstanding. The person with the right of way should proceed. Always. Doing otherwise makes the entire interaction unpredictable for every other driver and creates danger. Your understanding would essentially mean that the rules of the road should ALWAYS be violated. Which is, obviously nonsense.
Anonymous
Post 02/28/2023 17:03     Subject: Who has the right of way in this situation?
Zipper and alternate. If the person turning left has been doing the right thing and waiting and not clogging a crosswalk into the place, then let them go if you just pulled up in the opposing side, even if you technically have the right of way. Don't be a dick.

Anonymous
Post 02/28/2023 11:23     Subject: Who has the right of way in this situation?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Do NOT yield the right-of-way ever. It only leads to accidents. We all have to follow the procedures so we all know what the other guy is going to do. We don't need guessing games brought on by "trying to be nice".


I agree so very hard. People think they're being sweet but they're actually putting everyone in danger. Predictable driving behavior is safe driving behavior.


This is the dumbest thing I've ever heard. I recently took a defensive driving course that involved the state police and they would disagree with you. You should always yield the right of way. Not doing so is a cause of accidents. However, you should NOT expect that other drivers will yield the right of way.
Anonymous
Post 02/27/2023 16:56     Subject: Who has the right of way in this situation?
Anonymous wrote:Do NOT yield the right-of-way ever. It only leads to accidents. We all have to follow the procedures so we all know what the other guy is going to do. We don't need guessing games brought on by "trying to be nice".


I agree so very hard. People think they're being sweet but they're actually putting everyone in danger. Predictable driving behavior is safe driving behavior.
Anonymous
Post 02/27/2023 16:53     Subject: Who has the right of way in this situation?
Anonymous wrote:Street, with a shopping center on one side. It's busy getting into a specific parking lot, so cars are waiting on the road to turn without blocking the intersection/roadway. There is a line about 5 cars deep one way, and zero on the other. A few cars come from the other side, also wanting to turn into the same parking lot. When it's clear that another car can enter, does the person turning right (who came later) have the right of way, or does the person turning left (waiting longer) have the right of way?



This sounds like the Kensington Starbucks!
Anonymous
Post 02/22/2023 10:38     Subject: Who has the right of way in this situation?
So frustrating. Right if way is not the same as courtesy.
Anonymous
Post 02/22/2023 10:34     Subject: Re:Who has the right of way in this situation?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:In this situation I would drive around and come from the other direction to avoid the frustration of waiting in a long line to turn left.

Yes, the right turn has the right of way. If you are turning left across traffic, you need to wait until it's clear. If it's a four way stop sign, then you go by who got there first. If you got there at the same time, the person on the right goes.


So what happens when traffic NEVER clears? There's always a line of people turning right.

Then you go straight, make a u turn and get in line behind the people who are turning right.