Anonymous
Post 02/08/2023 11:54     Subject: DeSantis Photos
Anonymous wrote:DeSantis will appeal to the upper income MAGA’s in Florida and elsewhere. The people who owns the nice beach and lake houses, drive $90K SUVs and pick up trucks, did the Trump boat parades with their 6-figure boats, and send their kids to private schools.

But the lower income white MAGAs in places like PA, OH, and MI are still all in on Trump. The

In short, DeSantis is going to cleave Trump’s base but it probably won’t be enough to win. While the wealthy MAGAs vote more consistently, their numbers are too small. White working class MAGA with racial resentments still control the ballot box.

If the GOP was smart they’d go all in on DeSantis as the one true Trump alternative and strong arm anyone else out of running. But instead they’re going to have a bunch of irrelevant Pences and Pompeos and Haleys splitting up the anti-Trump vote so it’ll end up like the 2016 primary again.
Anonymous
Post 02/08/2023 11:36     Subject: DeSantis Photos
DeSantis will appeal to the upper income MAGA’s in Florida and elsewhere. The people who owns the nice beach and lake houses, drive $90K SUVs and pick up trucks, did the Trump boat parades with their 6-figure boats, and send their kids to private schools.

But the lower income white MAGAs in places like PA, OH, and MI are still all in on Trump. The

In short, DeSantis is going to cleave Trump’s base but it probably won’t be enough to win. While the wealthy MAGAs vote more consistently, their numbers are too small. White working class MAGA with racial resentments still control the ballot box.
Anonymous
Post 02/08/2023 11:15     Subject: DeSantis Photos
Anonymous wrote:DeSantis is of Italian descent...
in the 1900 census Italians were not considered white. Racists go back far.
Anonymous
Post 02/08/2023 11:13     Subject: Re:DeSantis Photos
Anonymous wrote:The NY Times did an article on DeSantis' year as a teacher at an elite Georgia boarding school, Darlington. https://www.nytimes.com/2022/11/05/us/desantis-high-school-teacher-georgia.html

Apparently he partied with the older students. If you don't think the cute history teacher was hooking up with students, then you're pretty naive.

Several students recalled that Mr. DeSantis was a frequent presence at parties with the seniors who lived in town. Most spoke about socializing with him on the condition of anonymity because they feared backlash for speaking publicly about it.

“As an 18-year-old, I remember thinking, ‘What are you doing here, dude?’” one former student said....

...Last year, Hill Reporter, a blog put out by a Democratic super PAC, published a photograph of Mr. DeSantis taken with several female students from Darlington in 2002, one of whom was holding what appeared to be a bottle of beer.

Two former students, both women, remembered him attending at least two parties where alcohol was served, but they said that the parties took place after graduation and that they were not bothered by his presence at the time, although they question it now. “It was his first job out of Yale, he was cute. We didn’t really think too much about it,” one of the former students said.


OH gross! His career is over.
Anonymous
Post 02/08/2023 10:07     Subject: Re:DeSantis Photos
The NY Times did an article on DeSantis' year as a teacher at an elite Georgia boarding school, Darlington. https://www.nytimes.com/2022/11/05/us/desantis-high-school-teacher-georgia.html

Apparently he partied with the older students. If you don't think the cute history teacher was hooking up with students, then you're pretty naive.

Several students recalled that Mr. DeSantis was a frequent presence at parties with the seniors who lived in town. Most spoke about socializing with him on the condition of anonymity because they feared backlash for speaking publicly about it.

“As an 18-year-old, I remember thinking, ‘What are you doing here, dude?’” one former student said....

...Last year, Hill Reporter, a blog put out by a Democratic super PAC, published a photograph of Mr. DeSantis taken with several female students from Darlington in 2002, one of whom was holding what appeared to be a bottle of beer.

Two former students, both women, remembered him attending at least two parties where alcohol was served, but they said that the parties took place after graduation and that they were not bothered by his presence at the time, although they question it now. “It was his first job out of Yale, he was cute. We didn’t really think too much about it,” one of the former students said.
Anonymous
Post 02/08/2023 10:00     Subject: DeSantis Photos
Anonymous wrote:
I dislike both these terrible men with different but equal venom

Yes! I know this is a low bar, but of those running or likely to run, I will not be totally embarrassed to be an American with any non-Trump, non-DeSantis president.
Anonymous
Post 02/08/2023 09:58     Subject: DeSantis Photos
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think if DeSantis stays above the fray, respectful but dismissive of any crap trump throws his way, he will come out looking even better. And trump even worse.

Not if Trump has actual incriminating photos. Not that pedophilia is a disqualifier in the GOP anymore. Based on the sheer numbers it looks like it’s a requirement.


It doesn't matter if they are real or not. He went after Cruz over a completely made-up accusation about his father, and it worked with the idiot GOP electorate. Republicans have been trained to be impervious to facts and evidence.

Right but I don’t think Trump has the mental power or fan base to sway people anymore. For as much as he is the GOP, he himself has sort of ceased to matter. The cult has slipped from his control.


He doesn't need to control a majority, or anything close to that, to sink DeSantis. If even 10% of the GOP base believes DeSantis is a pedo because of Trump's attacks, he will lose in the general even if he beats Trump in the primary.
Anonymous
Post 02/08/2023 09:56     Subject: DeSantis Photos
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think if DeSantis stays above the fray, respectful but dismissive of any crap trump throws his way, he will come out looking even better. And trump even worse.

Not if Trump has actual incriminating photos. Not that pedophilia is a disqualifier in the GOP anymore. Based on the sheer numbers it looks like it’s a requirement.


It doesn't matter if they are real or not. He went after Cruz over a completely made-up accusation about his father, and it worked with the idiot GOP electorate. Republicans have been trained to be impervious to facts and evidence.

Right but I don’t think Trump has the mental power or fan base to sway people anymore. For as much as he is the GOP, he himself has sort of ceased to matter. The cult has slipped from his control.
Anonymous
Post 02/08/2023 09:52     Subject: DeSantis Photos
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think if DeSantis stays above the fray, respectful but dismissive of any crap trump throws his way, he will come out looking even better. And trump even worse.

Not if Trump has actual incriminating photos. Not that pedophilia is a disqualifier in the GOP anymore. Based on the sheer numbers it looks like it’s a requirement.


It doesn't matter if they are real or not. He went after Cruz over a completely made-up accusation about his father, and it worked with the idiot GOP electorate. Republicans have been trained to be impervious to facts and evidence.
Anonymous
Post 02/08/2023 09:51     Subject: DeSantis Photos
Anonymous wrote:I think if DeSantis stays above the fray, respectful but dismissive of any crap trump throws his way, he will come out looking even better. And trump even worse.


I don't think so. It's a real bad look for the guy who wants details of every teenaged girl's menstrual cycle to have been in these sorts of "cozy" photos when he was a teacher. Also it makes you wonder why he doesn't trust teachers with kids - he levies accusations and innuendos that I, who has never been inappropriate with children at parties, would never dream of.
Anonymous
Post 02/08/2023 09:50     Subject: DeSantis Photos
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think if DeSantis stays above the fray, respectful but dismissive of any crap trump throws his way, he will come out looking even better. And trump even worse.


People tried this in 2016 and they still lost.


+1

DeSantis either needs to back out now and support Trump or lose his career. This is going to be it for him. Trump is going to immolate him.

I dislike both these terrible men with different but equal venom, but I don’t think Trump actually has any proof and Trump’s dementia continues to catch up with him. He doesn’t have the goods on Ronnie and he doesn’t have enough fans or the negative charisma to damn him with words.
Anonymous
Post 02/08/2023 09:48     Subject: DeSantis Photos
Anonymous wrote:I think if DeSantis stays above the fray, respectful but dismissive of any crap trump throws his way, he will come out looking even better. And trump even worse.

Not if Trump has actual incriminating photos. Not that pedophilia is a disqualifier in the GOP anymore. Based on the sheer numbers it looks like it’s a requirement.
Anonymous
Post 02/08/2023 09:48     Subject: DeSantis Photos
Anonymous wrote:I think if DeSantis stays above the fray, respectful but dismissive of any crap trump throws his way, he will come out looking even better. And trump even worse.


Nope, it will just make him look like a cuck.
Anonymous
Post 02/08/2023 09:47     Subject: DeSantis Photos
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Trump is accusing Ron of being a pedophile with these photos being posted of him parting with minors while as a teacher.


So the guy who cheats on all of his wives, has sex with porn-stars and pays them hush money, and brags about assaulting women as a regular thing, is taking the moral high ground against DeSantis (who I hate) for drinking with teens who were 5 (?) yrs younger than he was?

I mean... doesn't really sound right.


That guy ran the most corrupt administration in the history of the country, and then tried to make his campaign against Biden about an entirely made-up corruption scheme. And Republicans lapped it up.
Anonymous
Post 02/08/2023 09:47     Subject: DeSantis Photos
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think if DeSantis stays above the fray, respectful but dismissive of any crap trump throws his way, he will come out looking even better. And trump even worse.


People tried this in 2016 and they still lost.


+1

DeSantis either needs to back out now and support Trump or lose his career. This is going to be it for him. Trump is going to immolate him.