Anonymous
02/08/2023 17:30
Subject: Bill to legally rent out pool or home gym
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Seems like a terrible idea, but maybe I am in the minority. Smells like a ZTA Trojan horse.
https://moco360.media/2023/02/01/homeowners-could-rent-out-their-pools-gyms-legally-under-jawando-bill/
The Trojan horse here are that these businesses would operate in SFH communities and without parking minimums.
I for one hope that they extend this auto repair shops. People are doing this anyway, so may was well regulate it. Nothing wrong with a little commercial activity out of someone’s home in your community. It’s good actually.
That's not a Trojan horse. That's explicit. It's why there needs to be a zoning text amendment.
And yes, it would affect neighborhoods with single-unit detached houses, because that's where the private pools and private home gyms mostly are. There is nothing sacrosanct about such neighborhoods or the people (including me) who live in them.
Sure. But infrastructure in those neighborhoods are not designed to accommodate a lot of cars. The traffic safety risks are obvious from people zooming in and out of neighborhoods to go and workout. Because there is no capacity limitation, you can have a whole commercial gym at your house like a Planet Fitness. The developer who built Planet Fitness has to pay transportation impact fees to ensure that the increased infrastructure demands are accommodated. Not here. It’s wildly dangerous and pretty stupid as a matter of policy.
As PP says, it’s also a good question why it’s restricted to pools and gyms as the only acceptable commercial businesses.
Because it's one ZTA. Are there other home-based businesses you would like to allow, in addition to pools and gyms? I can think of many.
As for wildly dangerous - I don't know why people going to a pool or a workout room would be zooming in and out of neighborhoods any more than your neighbors are already zooming in and out to go to a pool or gym elsewhere. Or for any other reason they're driving in and out.
Every car going down a residential street where kids live and play is a risk. Maybe you don’t agree, but keeping kids safe is an important role of public policy. Intentionally increasing risk to kids for something so inessential is pretty stupid, which makes sense as to why this is coming from Jawando.
Your stated reason is classic "won't somebody think of the children". Most of the cars are your neighbors' cars. The threat to the kids isn't from some random person who wants to pay to use someone else's pool; it's from your neighbors. It's weird how often some people oppose ideas like this by saying they endanger children, but then also oppose ideas that would make children safer, like sidewalks on their streets, or limits on parking near intersections, or speed bumps.
Anonymous
02/08/2023 15:53
Subject: Bill to legally rent out pool or home gym
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I think SFH neighborhoods need to prepare themselves for an onslaught of ZTAs as home-based businesses continue to grow in scope and number.
In other words, homeowners in SFH neighborhoods are increasingly interested in being able to use their homes for business purposes as well.
Accountants have been doing this for decades without registration or regulation. Same with the therapists who have in-home counseling offices.
If some guy wants to do personal training out of his garage gym or rent his pool, I don’t care. The local govt just wants their cut.
Anonymous
02/08/2023 15:52
Subject: Bill to legally rent out pool or home gym
My home gym is STACKED.
Even if I only had 2-3 renters a month. Could be nice little bonus play money
Even if I only had 2-3 renters a month. Could be nice little bonus play money
Anonymous
02/08/2023 15:48
Subject: Bill to legally rent out pool or home gym
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Seems like a terrible idea, but maybe I am in the minority. Smells like a ZTA Trojan horse.
https://moco360.media/2023/02/01/homeowners-could-rent-out-their-pools-gyms-legally-under-jawando-bill/
The Trojan horse here are that these businesses would operate in SFH communities and without parking minimums.
I for one hope that they extend this auto repair shops. People are doing this anyway, so may was well regulate it. Nothing wrong with a little commercial activity out of someone’s home in your community. It’s good actually.
That's not a Trojan horse. That's explicit. It's why there needs to be a zoning text amendment.
And yes, it would affect neighborhoods with single-unit detached houses, because that's where the private pools and private home gyms mostly are. There is nothing sacrosanct about such neighborhoods or the people (including me) who live in them.
Sure. But infrastructure in those neighborhoods are not designed to accommodate a lot of cars. The traffic safety risks are obvious from people zooming in and out of neighborhoods to go and workout. Because there is no capacity limitation, you can have a whole commercial gym at your house like a Planet Fitness. The developer who built Planet Fitness has to pay transportation impact fees to ensure that the increased infrastructure demands are accommodated. Not here. It’s wildly dangerous and pretty stupid as a matter of policy.
As PP says, it’s also a good question why it’s restricted to pools and gyms as the only acceptable commercial businesses.
Because it's one ZTA. Are there other home-based businesses you would like to allow, in addition to pools and gyms? I can think of many.
As for wildly dangerous - I don't know why people going to a pool or a workout room would be zooming in and out of neighborhoods any more than your neighbors are already zooming in and out to go to a pool or gym elsewhere. Or for any other reason they're driving in and out.
Every car going down a residential street where kids live and play is a risk. Maybe you don’t agree, but keeping kids safe is an important role of public policy. Intentionally increasing risk to kids for something so inessential is pretty stupid, which makes sense as to why this is coming from Jawando.
Anonymous
02/08/2023 14:18
Subject: Bill to legally rent out pool or home gym
Anonymous wrote:I think SFH neighborhoods need to prepare themselves for an onslaught of ZTAs as home-based businesses continue to grow in scope and number.
In other words, homeowners in SFH neighborhoods are increasingly interested in being able to use their homes for business purposes as well.
Anonymous
02/08/2023 14:15
Subject: Bill to legally rent out pool or home gym
I think SFH neighborhoods need to prepare themselves for an onslaught of ZTAs as home-based businesses continue to grow in scope and number.
Anonymous
02/08/2023 14:13
Subject: Bill to legally rent out pool or home gym
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Seems like a terrible idea, but maybe I am in the minority. Smells like a ZTA Trojan horse.
https://moco360.media/2023/02/01/homeowners-could-rent-out-their-pools-gyms-legally-under-jawando-bill/
The Trojan horse here are that these businesses would operate in SFH communities and without parking minimums.
I for one hope that they extend this auto repair shops. People are doing this anyway, so may was well regulate it. Nothing wrong with a little commercial activity out of someone’s home in your community. It’s good actually.
That's not a Trojan horse. That's explicit. It's why there needs to be a zoning text amendment.
And yes, it would affect neighborhoods with single-unit detached houses, because that's where the private pools and private home gyms mostly are. There is nothing sacrosanct about such neighborhoods or the people (including me) who live in them.
It is a Trojan horse because once you start messing with SFH neighborhoods, it’s becomes easier to do so further. The 1st ZTA will beget more. Maybe you agree with ruining neighborhoods, I can’t help that. I don’t understand it, but I don’t have to I guess. I’ll just fight against it to slow implementation down so I can move while my property value is still high.
I don't think it will "ruin" a neighborhood if you allow a homeowner to rent their pool out for pool parties. I also don't think it will "ruin" a neighborhood to allow duplexes next to uniplexes. I also don't think it will "ruin" a neighborhood to allow an extended family to live in a "single family" house. That idea of "neighborhood" is very rigid and very limited, and you're right, I don't support it.
Anonymous
02/08/2023 14:09
Subject: Bill to legally rent out pool or home gym
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Seems like a terrible idea, but maybe I am in the minority. Smells like a ZTA Trojan horse.
https://moco360.media/2023/02/01/homeowners-could-rent-out-their-pools-gyms-legally-under-jawando-bill/
The Trojan horse here are that these businesses would operate in SFH communities and without parking minimums.
I for one hope that they extend this auto repair shops. People are doing this anyway, so may was well regulate it. Nothing wrong with a little commercial activity out of someone’s home in your community. It’s good actually.
That's not a Trojan horse. That's explicit. It's why there needs to be a zoning text amendment.
And yes, it would affect neighborhoods with single-unit detached houses, because that's where the private pools and private home gyms mostly are. There is nothing sacrosanct about such neighborhoods or the people (including me) who live in them.
Sure. But infrastructure in those neighborhoods are not designed to accommodate a lot of cars. The traffic safety risks are obvious from people zooming in and out of neighborhoods to go and workout. Because there is no capacity limitation, you can have a whole commercial gym at your house like a Planet Fitness. The developer who built Planet Fitness has to pay transportation impact fees to ensure that the increased infrastructure demands are accommodated. Not here. It’s wildly dangerous and pretty stupid as a matter of policy.
As PP says, it’s also a good question why it’s restricted to pools and gyms as the only acceptable commercial businesses.
Because it's one ZTA. Are there other home-based businesses you would like to allow, in addition to pools and gyms? I can think of many.
As for wildly dangerous - I don't know why people going to a pool or a workout room would be zooming in and out of neighborhoods any more than your neighbors are already zooming in and out to go to a pool or gym elsewhere. Or for any other reason they're driving in and out.
Anonymous
02/08/2023 13:51
Subject: Bill to legally rent out pool or home gym
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Seems like a terrible idea, but maybe I am in the minority. Smells like a ZTA Trojan horse.
https://moco360.media/2023/02/01/homeowners-could-rent-out-their-pools-gyms-legally-under-jawando-bill/
The Trojan horse here are that these businesses would operate in SFH communities and without parking minimums.
I for one hope that they extend this auto repair shops. People are doing this anyway, so may was well regulate it. Nothing wrong with a little commercial activity out of someone’s home in your community. It’s good actually.
That's not a Trojan horse. That's explicit. It's why there needs to be a zoning text amendment.
And yes, it would affect neighborhoods with single-unit detached houses, because that's where the private pools and private home gyms mostly are. There is nothing sacrosanct about such neighborhoods or the people (including me) who live in them.
It is a Trojan horse because once you start messing with SFH neighborhoods, it’s becomes easier to do so further. The 1st ZTA will beget more. Maybe you agree with ruining neighborhoods, I can’t help that. I don’t understand it, but I don’t have to I guess. I’ll just fight against it to slow implementation down so I can move while my property value is still high.
Anonymous
02/08/2023 13:40
Subject: Bill to legally rent out pool or home gym
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Seems like a terrible idea, but maybe I am in the minority. Smells like a ZTA Trojan horse.
https://moco360.media/2023/02/01/homeowners-could-rent-out-their-pools-gyms-legally-under-jawando-bill/
The Trojan horse here are that these businesses would operate in SFH communities and without parking minimums.
I for one hope that they extend this auto repair shops. People are doing this anyway, so may was well regulate it. Nothing wrong with a little commercial activity out of someone’s home in your community. It’s good actually.
That's not a Trojan horse. That's explicit. It's why there needs to be a zoning text amendment.
And yes, it would affect neighborhoods with single-unit detached houses, because that's where the private pools and private home gyms mostly are. There is nothing sacrosanct about such neighborhoods or the people (including me) who live in them.
Sure. But infrastructure in those neighborhoods are not designed to accommodate a lot of cars. The traffic safety risks are obvious from people zooming in and out of neighborhoods to go and workout. Because there is no capacity limitation, you can have a whole commercial gym at your house like a Planet Fitness. The developer who built Planet Fitness has to pay transportation impact fees to ensure that the increased infrastructure demands are accommodated. Not here. It’s wildly dangerous and pretty stupid as a matter of policy.
As PP says, it’s also a good question why it’s restricted to pools and gyms as the only acceptable commercial businesses.
Anonymous
02/08/2023 13:14
Subject: Bill to legally rent out pool or home gym
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Seems like a terrible idea, but maybe I am in the minority. Smells like a ZTA Trojan horse.
https://moco360.media/2023/02/01/homeowners-could-rent-out-their-pools-gyms-legally-under-jawando-bill/
The Trojan horse here are that these businesses would operate in SFH communities and without parking minimums.
I for one hope that they extend this auto repair shops. People are doing this anyway, so may was well regulate it. Nothing wrong with a little commercial activity out of someone’s home in your community. It’s good actually.
That's not a Trojan horse. That's explicit. It's why there needs to be a zoning text amendment.
And yes, it would affect neighborhoods with single-unit detached houses, because that's where the private pools and private home gyms mostly are. There is nothing sacrosanct about such neighborhoods or the people (including me) who live in them.
Anonymous
02/08/2023 12:59
Subject: Bill to legally rent out pool or home gym
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So Golds Gym gets regulated but I can run an unregulated gym from my home?
No, the idea for you would be to run a regulated gym from your home.
Will there be health department inspections of peoples homes to ensure that their home gyms are safe and sanitary?
https://moco360.media/2023/02/01/homeowners-could-rent-out-their-pools-gyms-legally-under-jawando-bill/
So no. There will not be any required health department inspections.
Anonymous
02/08/2023 12:58
Subject: Bill to legally rent out pool or home gym
Anonymous wrote:Seems like a terrible idea, but maybe I am in the minority. Smells like a ZTA Trojan horse.
https://moco360.media/2023/02/01/homeowners-could-rent-out-their-pools-gyms-legally-under-jawando-bill/
The Trojan horse here are that these businesses would operate in SFH communities and without parking minimums.
I for one hope that they extend this auto repair shops. People are doing this anyway, so may was well regulate it. Nothing wrong with a little commercial activity out of someone’s home in your community. It’s good actually.
Anonymous
02/08/2023 12:57
Subject: Bill to legally rent out pool or home gym
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So Golds Gym gets regulated but I can run an unregulated gym from my home?
No, the idea for you would be to run a regulated gym from your home.
Will there be health department inspections of peoples homes to ensure that their home gyms are safe and sanitary?
https://moco360.media/2023/02/01/homeowners-could-rent-out-their-pools-gyms-legally-under-jawando-bill/
Anonymous
02/08/2023 12:55
Subject: Bill to legally rent out pool or home gym
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So Golds Gym gets regulated but I can run an unregulated gym from my home?
No, the idea for you would be to run a regulated gym from your home.
Will there be health department inspections of peoples homes to ensure that their home gyms are safe and sanitary?