Anonymous
Post 01/29/2023 11:58     Subject: Level IV clustering

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Anonymous wrote:We have one kid getting the cluster model and another at the center. IME, the center is more rigorous.


Can you expand on this? Our school uses the clustering model and we don’t see the benefit -whether it is the AAP kid, the gen Ed kid or the teacher. It doesn’t seem effective. We would have moved to Center but it is the last year of ES.


For DS, who is in local level IV, the math component is a separate class that combines level IV students with the level III kids who are strong in math (about a 50-50 split). DD's center classes are level IV-only and seem to move faster. One of DS's friends started in LLIV and transferred to the center for 5th grade. Per the mom, he was behind and had lots of catching up to do. Center has significantly more math homework.

Other level IV material is provided only three days a week via pull-out for DS. The rest of the time he does the same things Gen Ed does. DD gets level IV content in all subjects, full-time.


That is a nice way at least to do the math and LLIV, and I would find that a decent option while acknowledging full time LIV still seems better.

However, our base (newly offering LLIV this year) is doing cluster model and very explicitly is NOT doing a LIII push-in like this. It is truly just mixed gen ed. - including for math. (This is a base that formerly started adv math in 5th grade incidentally.) I just do not see that as a good replacement for the center system. AAP kids get less and so does everyone else in the classroom where the teacher suddenly has to differentiate (somehow) even more but with the same resources.
Anonymous
Post 01/29/2023 11:21     Subject: Level IV clustering

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We have one kid getting the cluster model and another at the center. IME, the center is more rigorous.


Can you expand on this? Our school uses the clustering model and we don’t see the benefit -whether it is the AAP kid, the gen Ed kid or the teacher. It doesn’t seem effective. We would have moved to Center but it is the last year of ES.


For DS, who is in local level IV, the math component is a separate class that combines level IV students with the level III kids who are strong in math (about a 50-50 split). DD's center classes are level IV-only and seem to move faster. One of DS's friends started in LLIV and transferred to the center for 5th grade. Per the mom, he was behind and had lots of catching up to do. Center has significantly more math homework.

Other level IV material is provided only three days a week via pull-out for DS. The rest of the time he does the same things Gen Ed does. DD gets level IV content in all subjects, full-time.
Anonymous
Post 01/28/2023 08:45     Subject: Level IV clustering

Anonymous wrote:We have one kid getting the cluster model and another at the center. IME, the center is more rigorous.


Can you expand on this? Our school uses the clustering model and we don’t see the benefit -whether it is the AAP kid, the gen Ed kid or the teacher. It doesn’t seem effective. We would have moved to Center but it is the last year of ES.
Anonymous
Post 01/26/2023 22:14     Subject: Re:Level IV clustering

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Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Cannot wait until they dismantle the centers.


IKR? The reason families with bright children choose Fairfax over alternatives in the DMV - can't wait to get rid of it!


Yup, ALL the families with kids in AAP are going to move away somewhere with a more rigorous curriculum for their children.

Oh wait.


Of course not all. We bought in fairfax specifically for the AAP opportunities though. I would have considered other neighboring districts when we were house hunting if not for AAP.


So go ahead and move to Arlington - literally everyone I know there hates the school system. Prince William County schools are very poorly rated. You could move to Loudon but it's full of crazy people. Have fun!!!


I have no need to move. I am very happy with my kid’s aap center education.

I’m sure other models would be okay if aap weren’t a thing, but we came to FCPS specifically for the opportunity no one else in the region was offering—full time accelerated curriculum. Like it or not it’s a selling point for some families.
Anonymous
Post 01/26/2023 22:07     Subject: Re:Level IV clustering

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Cannot wait until they dismantle the centers.


IKR? The reason families with bright children choose Fairfax over alternatives in the DMV - can't wait to get rid of it!


Yup, ALL the families with kids in AAP are going to move away somewhere with a more rigorous curriculum for their children.

Oh wait.


Of course not all. We bought in fairfax specifically for the AAP opportunities though. I would have considered other neighboring districts when we were house hunting if not for AAP.


We did too. Many of the people I know did. I'm not sure if those like PP who object to the idea are unaware or are just contrary. I wonder about the school board too. Are they unaware or just contrary?


I mean, I'd be thrilled if all the crazy AAP parents moved away. You all are nuts.
Anonymous
Post 01/26/2023 22:06     Subject: Re:Level IV clustering

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Cannot wait until they dismantle the centers.


IKR? The reason families with bright children choose Fairfax over alternatives in the DMV - can't wait to get rid of it!


Yup, ALL the families with kids in AAP are going to move away somewhere with a more rigorous curriculum for their children.

Oh wait.


Of course not all. We bought in fairfax specifically for the AAP opportunities though. I would have considered other neighboring districts when we were house hunting if not for AAP.


So go ahead and move to Arlington - literally everyone I know there hates the school system. Prince William County schools are very poorly rated. You could move to Loudon but it's full of crazy people. Have fun!!!
Anonymous
Post 01/26/2023 15:31     Subject: Re:Level IV clustering

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Cannot wait until they dismantle the centers.


LOL, not in your lifetime.


If all the schools have Local Level IV, which they’re on track to do within a couple of years, then they absolutely could dismantle them.


I agree. It is trending this way.
Anonymous
Post 01/26/2023 15:03     Subject: Level IV clustering

Anonymous wrote:Poor little AAP mommies and daddies.


Don't feel sorry for me. We all just want what's best for our kids.
Anonymous
Post 01/26/2023 14:59     Subject: Re:Level IV clustering

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Cannot wait until they dismantle the centers.


IKR? The reason families with bright children choose Fairfax over alternatives in the DMV - can't wait to get rid of it!


Yup, ALL the families with kids in AAP are going to move away somewhere with a more rigorous curriculum for their children.

Oh wait.


Of course not all. We bought in fairfax specifically for the AAP opportunities though. I would have considered other neighboring districts when we were house hunting if not for AAP.


We did too. Many of the people I know did. I'm not sure if those like PP who object to the idea are unaware or are just contrary. I wonder about the school board too. Are they unaware or just contrary?
Anonymous
Post 01/26/2023 14:47     Subject: Re:Level IV clustering

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Cannot wait until they dismantle the centers.


IKR? The reason families with bright children choose Fairfax over alternatives in the DMV - can't wait to get rid of it!


Yup, ALL the families with kids in AAP are going to move away somewhere with a more rigorous curriculum for their children.

Oh wait.


Of course not all. We bought in fairfax specifically for the AAP opportunities though. I would have considered other neighboring districts when we were house hunting if not for AAP.
Anonymous
Post 01/26/2023 12:22     Subject: Re:Level IV clustering

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Cannot wait until they dismantle the centers.


IKR? The reason families with bright children choose Fairfax over alternatives in the DMV - can't wait to get rid of it!


Yup, ALL the families with kids in AAP are going to move away somewhere with a more rigorous curriculum for their children.

Oh wait.
Anonymous
Post 01/26/2023 12:21     Subject: Level IV clustering

Poor little AAP mommies and daddies.
Anonymous
Post 01/26/2023 08:44     Subject: Re:Level IV clustering

Anonymous wrote:Cannot wait until they dismantle the centers.


Never going to happen, sorry (not sorry).
Anonymous
Post 01/26/2023 08:01     Subject: Level IV clustering

We have one kid getting the cluster model and another at the center. IME, the center is more rigorous.
Anonymous
Post 01/25/2023 18:42     Subject: Re:Level IV clustering

Anonymous wrote:Cannot wait until they dismantle the centers.


IKR? The reason families with bright children choose Fairfax over alternatives in the DMV - can't wait to get rid of it!