Anonymous
02/13/2023 20:23
Subject: Tesla features worth it?
Anonymous wrote:OP, to answer your question, you would most likely find Enhanced Auto Pilot useful and FSD not very useful.
Spend the money on EAP and skip FSD.
+1
If you can afford it, EAP all the way. I would probably check for used Teslas because you’re more likely to get one at a reasonable price with EAP.
Anonymous
02/11/2023 21:46
Subject: Tesla features worth it?
That's rich, Elon. You suddenly move halfway into another lane of traffic at highway speed and abruptly stop for no reason whatsoever in front of a car that had no traffic at all in front of it and you call that driver error? Who did they buy off?
https://theintercept.com/2023/01/10/tesla-crash-footage-autopilot/
Anonymous
02/11/2023 17:17
Subject: Tesla features worth it?
OP, to answer your question, you would most likely find Enhanced Auto Pilot useful and FSD not very useful.
Spend the money on EAP and skip FSD.
Spend the money on EAP and skip FSD.
Anonymous
02/11/2023 16:57
Subject: Tesla features worth it?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:We took an Uber this summer and was picked up in a Tesla model 3. The driver was doing tesla beta testing for the auto pilot and got our permission to demo it on part of our ride to Dulles airport.
Tge car itself was not luxurious. It seemed plasticky. Granted a lot of “drivers” cars are better from the driver and passenger perspective vs the kid-seats in the back; but the doors and seats reminded me of a Corolla. The autopilot was somewhat impressive, but a very jerky and uncomfortable ride. It made a couple of mistakes, so the driver mentioned that he needed to hit a button to report it to Tesla. we needed to to change over three lanes to tske an exit, and admitted that he needed to do that manually because auto pilot was not good at it. Also the car got confused a couple of times and he had to grab the wheel to reset it.
My daily driver is a GLE so I wasn’t expecting that. And I’ve ridden in a few Tesla’s in the past 6 years. But DH worships Musks “genius” and has been wanting to buy one for forever, and even he is changing his mind.
Im a home builder. Tesla cars remind of cheaply constructed contemporary homes. All the pieces (cheap) are there but no soul. BTW, I'm not a Tesla hater. I drive one myself and it serves a good purpose. However, it lacks the refinement and finish of IC vehicles.
Yeah! 50K+ and no leather seats!
Don’t all cars have the fake leather now days?
Many give you the choice of real or “vegan” leather options. There are practical reasons not to have real leather, like maintenance. It’s not really a big deal anymore. Ventilated seats are a bigger deal and Tesla doesn’t have them but everyone else seems to have them.
Anonymous
02/11/2023 16:55
Subject: Tesla features worth it?
Anonymous wrote:Are the Enhanced Autopilot or FSD capability worth it? Do they really do what they promise to do?
Considering Model Y. I'm the kind of person who doesn't even use cruise control right now.
Just ordered a Model Y and decided against all of this.
FSD doesn’t work, so it’s pointless. To make matters worse, Tesla has been removing radar sensors from the cars and a hardware update is expected later in 2023 or 2024 so clearly it’s a waste of money for current models.
Enhanced Autopilot has several features that I want, like auto lane change. However the cost doesn’t seem worth it. It’s important to note that several other automakers provide all of the features of EA with the significant added cost and many reports are that they work better than Tesla. These include the Ioniq by Hyundai, Volvo’s Polestar and the new Mercedes EVs that will be released soon. Tesla no longer seems to be the industry leader in this technology.
Anonymous
02/10/2023 20:35
Subject: Tesla features worth it?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:We took an Uber this summer and was picked up in a Tesla model 3. The driver was doing tesla beta testing for the auto pilot and got our permission to demo it on part of our ride to Dulles airport.
Tge car itself was not luxurious. It seemed plasticky. Granted a lot of “drivers” cars are better from the driver and passenger perspective vs the kid-seats in the back; but the doors and seats reminded me of a Corolla. The autopilot was somewhat impressive, but a very jerky and uncomfortable ride. It made a couple of mistakes, so the driver mentioned that he needed to hit a button to report it to Tesla. we needed to to change over three lanes to tske an exit, and admitted that he needed to do that manually because auto pilot was not good at it. Also the car got confused a couple of times and he had to grab the wheel to reset it.
My daily driver is a GLE so I wasn’t expecting that. And I’ve ridden in a few Tesla’s in the past 6 years. But DH worships Musks “genius” and has been wanting to buy one for forever, and even he is changing his mind.
Im a home builder. Tesla cars remind of cheaply constructed contemporary homes. All the pieces (cheap) are there but no soul. BTW, I'm not a Tesla hater. I drive one myself and it serves a good purpose. However, it lacks the refinement and finish of IC vehicles.
Yeah! 50K+ and no leather seats!
Don’t all cars have the fake leather now days?
Anonymous
01/31/2023 18:36
Subject: Re:Tesla features worth it?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:tesla Y owner here
love the drive and the saving gas part and the dog-mode (keeps internal temp for you and displays a note so people wont break in to your car), and the third row, and the speed and acceleration.
Fit and finish is well below other cars (plastic-y, pieces fall off etc)
DON'T SPEND THE MONEY ON THE SELF DRIVING (10k). It's not worth it, we wouldnt trust it for the freeway or at high speeds, and at trafficky low speeds the regular auto drive thing works the same.
Overall still a great car but don't expect the quality of a porsche or mercedes unless you move into the X or S models.
Other EVs, like the ID.4 but probably not limited to them, will warm up your car for you too. From an app I can control my EV's internal temperature.
Acceleration may or may not matter much depending on whether you mostly drive in the city and/or need to merge onto the Beltway every day. In any case pretty much all cars accelerate quickly these days, it's just a question of a few seconds.
+1. My 20 y.o. minivan accelerates quickly enough for me even after 200K miles. Not really looking to be Speedy Gonzales.
Anonymous
01/31/2023 16:23
Subject: Re:Tesla features worth it?
Anonymous wrote:tesla Y owner here
love the drive and the saving gas part and the dog-mode (keeps internal temp for you and displays a note so people wont break in to your car), and the third row, and the speed and acceleration.
Fit and finish is well below other cars (plastic-y, pieces fall off etc)
DON'T SPEND THE MONEY ON THE SELF DRIVING (10k). It's not worth it, we wouldnt trust it for the freeway or at high speeds, and at trafficky low speeds the regular auto drive thing works the same.
Overall still a great car but don't expect the quality of a porsche or mercedes unless you move into the X or S models.
Other EVs, like the ID.4 but probably not limited to them, will warm up your car for you too. From an app I can control my EV's internal temperature.
Acceleration may or may not matter much depending on whether you mostly drive in the city and/or need to merge onto the Beltway every day. In any case pretty much all cars accelerate quickly these days, it's just a question of a few seconds.
Anonymous
01/31/2023 13:38
Subject: Tesla features worth it?
According to J.D. Power, Tesla vehicles had an average of 176 mechanical faults per 100, compared to an average of 121 for the industry. They ranked tesla 30th out of 33 brands featured in a J.D. Power Vehicle Dependability Survey released last year.
Anonymous
01/31/2023 13:37
Subject: Tesla features worth it?
Tesla has never done well in Consumer Reports' annual reliability surveys and the same is true for the manufacturer's 2022 performance.
Anonymous
01/31/2023 13:36
Subject: Tesla features worth it?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:We took an Uber this summer and was picked up in a Tesla model 3. The driver was doing tesla beta testing for the auto pilot and got our permission to demo it on part of our ride to Dulles airport.
Tge car itself was not luxurious. It seemed plasticky. Granted a lot of “drivers” cars are better from the driver and passenger perspective vs the kid-seats in the back; but the doors and seats reminded me of a Corolla. The autopilot was somewhat impressive, but a very jerky and uncomfortable ride. It made a couple of mistakes, so the driver mentioned that he needed to hit a button to report it to Tesla. we needed to to change over three lanes to tske an exit, and admitted that he needed to do that manually because auto pilot was not good at it. Also the car got confused a couple of times and he had to grab the wheel to reset it.
My daily driver is a GLE so I wasn’t expecting that. And I’ve ridden in a few Tesla’s in the past 6 years. But DH worships Musks “genius” and has been wanting to buy one for forever, and even he is changing his mind.
Im a home builder. Tesla cars remind of cheaply constructed contemporary homes. All the pieces (cheap) are there but no soul. BTW, I'm not a Tesla hater. I drive one myself and it serves a good purpose. However, it lacks the refinement and finish of IC vehicles.
Yeah! 50K+ and no leather seats!
Anonymous
01/31/2023 12:37
Subject: Tesla features worth it?
tesla hahahaha!
Anonymous
01/31/2023 12:27
Subject: Tesla features worth it?
Anonymous wrote:We took an Uber this summer and was picked up in a Tesla model 3. The driver was doing tesla beta testing for the auto pilot and got our permission to demo it on part of our ride to Dulles airport.
Tge car itself was not luxurious. It seemed plasticky. Granted a lot of “drivers” cars are better from the driver and passenger perspective vs the kid-seats in the back; but the doors and seats reminded me of a Corolla. The autopilot was somewhat impressive, but a very jerky and uncomfortable ride. It made a couple of mistakes, so the driver mentioned that he needed to hit a button to report it to Tesla. we needed to to change over three lanes to tske an exit, and admitted that he needed to do that manually because auto pilot was not good at it. Also the car got confused a couple of times and he had to grab the wheel to reset it.
My daily driver is a GLE so I wasn’t expecting that. And I’ve ridden in a few Tesla’s in the past 6 years. But DH worships Musks “genius” and has been wanting to buy one for forever, and even he is changing his mind.
Im a home builder. Tesla cars remind of cheaply constructed contemporary homes. All the pieces (cheap) are there but no soul. BTW, I'm not a Tesla hater. I drive one myself and it serves a good purpose. However, it lacks the refinement and finish of IC vehicles.