Anonymous
01/21/2023 15:16
Subject: Compensatory Services
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:We heard at our IEP meeting that evening and weekend compensatory hours were available from non-FCPS teachers. No one is making teachers do this work.
Who do you think is combing through the IEPs from the last few years and holding extra meetings on top of the already way-too-full
schedules? What services are being provided to the students while the teachers are dealing with this? They can’t teach and do this at the same time.
This came up in my annual IEP meeting. It was current teachers of my kid who had no involvement when he was at another school when denied services. This part of the meeting took 60 seconds. No one is combing through anything. I supplied tutoring receipts for the time period requested. I did all the work gathering the data. Tutoring services were offered if I want to deal with it after school or on the weekend with unheard of company.
I promise you that a lot of research went into what your child was provided and how much progress they did or didn’t make before you had that meeting. I assure you it took much longer than 60 seconds.It is odd that you had the meeting already since the teacher trainings are taking place next week and the page just appeared on Seastars the other day.
As far as anger at parents, you won’t get that from me. It’s the dumping more, more, more on special ed teachers that gets me. Where does the time come from? It comes from the time spent with students. Isn’t that who they’re supposed to be helping?
NP there was no such info at my IEP meetings it was the last agenda item and was like "you qualify for compensatory services and they are available on evenings ends weekends. You can submit receipts if you paid for services but you might not be reimbursec."
Anonymous
01/21/2023 12:01
Subject: Compensatory Services
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Maybe teachers should direct their irritation about compensatory services toward their leadership? Parents didn’t make the directive that they didn’t have to teach special kids.
I taught special ed kids. Every day during the virtual learning year. This lawsuit even covers the year we were fully back in person. And requires us to spend hours combing through old data and hold second iep meetings for literally every special education student in our building before June. It's almost impossible to get through all the meetings in a regular year but now we have to do it twice. OCR has lost there ever loving minds.
That is nice that you taught special kids when it was your job but many schools took away services. It happened to us. We were fortunate to be able to go to a private tutor- it was expensive but the teacher was fantastic and our child made massive improvements. It was worth it but it was expensive.
I have no expectations that the FCPS compensatory services will be good so we are not doing them but we are submitting our expenses for the time we paid for the private tutor. We probably won’t get paid back but I want someone to see the cost.
A meeting will still be required.
+1
Anonymous
01/21/2023 12:00
Subject: Compensatory Services
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Maybe teachers should direct their irritation about compensatory services toward their leadership? Parents didn’t make the directive that they didn’t have to teach special kids.
I taught special ed kids. Every day during the virtual learning year. This lawsuit even covers the year we were fully back in person. And requires us to spend hours combing through old data and hold second iep meetings for literally every special education student in our building before June. It's almost impossible to get through all the meetings in a regular year but now we have to do it twice. OCR has lost there ever loving minds.
That is nice that you taught special kids when it was your job but many schools took away services. It happened to us. We were fortunate to be able to go to a private tutor- it was expensive but the teacher was fantastic and our child made massive improvements. It was worth it but it was expensive.
I have no expectations that the FCPS compensatory services will be good so we are not doing them but we are submitting our expenses for the time we paid for the private tutor. We probably won’t get paid back but I want someone to see the cost.
It's nice that you parented your children as it is your job.
Anonymous
01/21/2023 10:59
Subject: Compensatory Services
Anonymous wrote:Maybe teachers should direct their irritation about compensatory services toward their leadership? Parents didn’t make the directive that they didn’t have to teach special kids.
Ok Jan
Maybe parents should not be shocked next year when schools struggle even more finding SPED teachers. This past summer there were many openings all over the county and principals scrambled to try and fill spots before the first day. Parents are a big part of the reason good teachers leave.
Anonymous
01/21/2023 10:02
Subject: Compensatory Services
Anonymous wrote:Special Ed teacher here and elementary parent. To the PP saying be mad at leadership, you’re damn right I am. None of this is parent fault. FCPS has lost their minds. No way will this system work without having every special education teacher walk out the door at the end of the year. Base high schools are looking at over 600 meetings needing to be held between now in June, in addition to all the regular meetings they would have. It’s not plausible.
D**** Straight. This is on the Superintendent at the time, the school board, and the Governor at the time. The current school staffs are getting dumped on by this and will probably get the blame when things don't go the way parents want them to go. Hopefully, we won't loose many teachers from this.
Anonymous
01/21/2023 09:25
Subject: Compensatory Services
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Maybe teachers should direct their irritation about compensatory services toward their leadership? Parents didn’t make the directive that they didn’t have to teach special kids.
I taught special ed kids. Every day during the virtual learning year. This lawsuit even covers the year we were fully back in person. And requires us to spend hours combing through old data and hold second iep meetings for literally every special education student in our building before June. It's almost impossible to get through all the meetings in a regular year but now we have to do it twice. OCR has lost there ever loving minds.
That is nice that you taught special kids when it was your job but many schools took away services. It happened to us. We were fortunate to be able to go to a private tutor- it was expensive but the teacher was fantastic and our child made massive improvements. It was worth it but it was expensive.
I have no expectations that the FCPS compensatory services will be good so we are not doing them but we are submitting our expenses for the time we paid for the private tutor. We probably won’t get paid back but I want someone to see the cost.
A meeting will still be required.
We already had the meeting. It was part of our yearly IEP
Anonymous
01/21/2023 08:45
Subject: Compensatory Services
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Special Ed teacher here and elementary parent. To the PP saying be mad at leadership, you’re damn right I am. None of this is parent fault. FCPS has lost their minds. No way will this system work without having every special education teacher walk out the door at the end of the year. Base high schools are looking at over 600 meetings needing to be held between now in June, in addition to all the regular meetings they would have. It’s not plausible.
Gatehouse needs to be carrying this heavy load as much as possible - they were the ones directing the staff on what to do. FCPS better be prepared to give some big bucks to teachers to keep them.
+1. I’m a special ed teacher and generally like my job. This crap is making me reevaluate my options for next year. Every single one of my coworkers agrees. Not a small handful, not half, every single one. Our supervisor has one foot out the door too. Gatehouse needs to be doing all extra meetings and delivering services for this. It would be a lot cheaper than hiring a ton of new sped teachers, many of whom will be gun-shy about working for FCPS if they know this is an additional unpaid part of the job that teachers in surrounding counties don’t have to deal with.
Anonymous
01/21/2023 08:24
Subject: Compensatory Services
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:We heard at our IEP meeting that evening and weekend compensatory hours were available from non-FCPS teachers. No one is making teachers do this work.
Who do you think is combing through the IEPs from the last few years and holding extra meetings on top of the already way-too-full
schedules? What services are being provided to the students while the teachers are dealing with this? They can’t teach and do this at the same time.
This came up in my annual IEP meeting. It was current teachers of my kid who had no involvement when he was at another school when denied services. This part of the meeting took 60 seconds. No one is combing through anything. I supplied tutoring receipts for the time period requested. I did all the work gathering the data. Tutoring services were offered if I want to deal with it after school or on the weekend with unheard of company.
I promise you that a lot of research went into what your child was provided and how much progress they did or didn’t make before you had that meeting. I assure you it took much longer than 60 seconds.It is odd that you had the meeting already since the teacher trainings are taking place next week and the page just appeared on Seastars the other day.
As far as anger at parents, you won’t get that from me. It’s the dumping more, more, more on special ed teachers that gets me. Where does the time come from? It comes from the time spent with students. Isn’t that who they’re supposed to be helping?
That’s what I keep thinking. If staff is busy planning and convening all these meetings are they then going to owe compensatory services to their current caseload? Who provides the current services during all of this?
Anonymous
01/21/2023 08:20
Subject: Compensatory Services
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Maybe teachers should direct their irritation about compensatory services toward their leadership? Parents didn’t make the directive that they didn’t have to teach special kids.
I taught special ed kids. Every day during the virtual learning year. This lawsuit even covers the year we were fully back in person. And requires us to spend hours combing through old data and hold second iep meetings for literally every special education student in our building before June. It's almost impossible to get through all the meetings in a regular year but now we have to do it twice. OCR has lost there ever loving minds.
That is nice that you taught special kids when it was your job but many schools took away services. It happened to us. We were fortunate to be able to go to a private tutor- it was expensive but the teacher was fantastic and our child made massive improvements. It was worth it but it was expensive.
I have no expectations that the FCPS compensatory services will be good so we are not doing them but we are submitting our expenses for the time we paid for the private tutor. We probably won’t get paid back but I want someone to see the cost.
A meeting will still be required.
Anonymous
01/21/2023 07:46
Subject: Compensatory Services
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:We heard at our IEP meeting that evening and weekend compensatory hours were available from non-FCPS teachers. No one is making teachers do this work.
Who do you think is combing through the IEPs from the last few years and holding extra meetings on top of the already way-too-full
schedules? What services are being provided to the students while the teachers are dealing with this? They can’t teach and do this at the same time.
This came up in my annual IEP meeting. It was current teachers of my kid who had no involvement when he was at another school when denied services. This part of the meeting took 60 seconds. No one is combing through anything. I supplied tutoring receipts for the time period requested. I did all the work gathering the data. Tutoring services were offered if I want to deal with it after school or on the weekend with unheard of company.
I promise you that a lot of research went into what your child was provided and how much progress they did or didn’t make before you had that meeting. I assure you it took much longer than 60 seconds.It is odd that you had the meeting already since the teacher trainings are taking place next week and the page just appeared on Seastars the other day.
As far as anger at parents, you won’t get that from me. It’s the dumping more, more, more on special ed teachers that gets me. Where does the time come from? It comes from the time spent with students. Isn’t that who they’re supposed to be helping?
Anonymous
01/21/2023 07:40
Subject: Compensatory Services
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Maybe teachers should direct their irritation about compensatory services toward their leadership? Parents didn’t make the directive that they didn’t have to teach special kids.
I taught special ed kids. Every day during the virtual learning year. This lawsuit even covers the year we were fully back in person. And requires us to spend hours combing through old data and hold second iep meetings for literally every special education student in our building before June. It's almost impossible to get through all the meetings in a regular year but now we have to do it twice. OCR has lost there ever loving minds.
That is nice that you taught special kids when it was your job but many schools took away services. It happened to us. We were fortunate to be able to go to a private tutor- it was expensive but the teacher was fantastic and our child made massive improvements. It was worth it but it was expensive.
I have no expectations that the FCPS compensatory services will be good so we are not doing them but we are submitting our expenses for the time we paid for the private tutor. We probably won’t get paid back but I want someone to see the cost.
Anonymous
01/21/2023 07:38
Subject: Compensatory Services
Anonymous wrote:Special Ed teacher here and elementary parent. To the PP saying be mad at leadership, you’re damn right I am. None of this is parent fault. FCPS has lost their minds. No way will this system work without having every special education teacher walk out the door at the end of the year. Base high schools are looking at over 600 meetings needing to be held between now in June, in addition to all the regular meetings they would have. It’s not plausible.
Gatehouse needs to be carrying this heavy load as much as possible - they were the ones directing the staff on what to do. FCPS better be prepared to give some big bucks to teachers to keep them.
Anonymous
01/21/2023 06:53
Subject: Compensatory Services
Any parent who is expecting that any services under this program will meaningfully help their students is sorely mistaken. This is performative only. If your child really needs services, get them outside of school.
Anonymous
01/21/2023 06:42
Subject: Compensatory Services
Special Ed teacher here and elementary parent. To the PP saying be mad at leadership, you’re damn right I am. None of this is parent fault. FCPS has lost their minds. No way will this system work without having every special education teacher walk out the door at the end of the year. Base high schools are looking at over 600 meetings needing to be held between now in June, in addition to all the regular meetings they would have. It’s not plausible.
Anonymous
01/21/2023 06:32
Subject: Compensatory Services
Anonymous wrote:I would really like to see the training sessions for staff. Are they open to the public or posted somewhere?
Calm down. They are highly scripted and have to be approved by the Office of Civll Rights.