Anonymous
Post 01/20/2023 15:01     Subject: Re:Lockdown at Einstein High School

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Wow. So I guess this is gonna be a weekly occurrence. Where is MCPS security? They are failing.

+1 good lord. All this RJ, social emotional learning, "we don't need SROs" seem to be doing jacksh1t.

-RM parent whose kids just experienced this last week.


Well look, you didn’t need an SRO. The real cops handled it just like they should.

SROs are real cops, too, and they would be in the school rather than school having to call the police which takes time. They are trained to assess risk and deal with someone with a gun better than administrators or security guards.

And since you didn't address the other part of my statement, I guess you agree: RJ and social emotional learning is BS. Get rid of it, and focus on the real issues. Huge achievement gap, violence in schools against students and staff.


Assuming SRO’s are like any cop is like saying any cop can do SWAT or murder investigations. No not all cops are the same.

SRO s are not trained to assess anything, they have literally never stopped an incident from occurring.ever.

RJ works for some and not for others. Principals need to be able to expel and moco needs to stop moving bad kids around. But that’s not new. In 1997 moco move Sheinbein from a W school to Kennedy and he killed someone’s and dismembered them.



Yeah, principals definitely need to be able to go back to suspending and expelling disruptive kids. The RJ and current approach is failing abysmally.

How does the Blair G. Ewing Center work? Is that the new Mark Twain? Why don't they refer more kids to that school if they behave badly?


Again you can’t see gray.

RJ works 90% of the time we need to fix the 20%.

Mark Twain was opened for kids with mild LDs. Teachers used it as a dumping ground for behavior issues so it closed down.

Blair g. Ewing is also not for criminals it’s for kids tfat need a more supportive environment.

RICA is even a level higher than EWING

What we need is to get rid of criminals not move them around.
Anonymous
Post 01/20/2023 15:00     Subject: Lockdown at Einstein High School

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:they just lifted it. my kids inside. says officers releasing classes. someone had a gun in art class is what kids are saying


This is terrifying. There is no barrier or deterrence to prevent kids from bringing weapons on school grounds. Why is everyone ok with this?

We go through screening at the airport to avoid this stuff but despite countless incidents at schools, we continue to let it be a free-for-all. I guess they're waiting for enough kids to die or get hurt before they do something drastic. Even though Magruder already happened on MCPS's watch.



Wrong. There are laws, and they generally work. No need to overreact to a single rumor (which is what this is so far).


A single rumor? Are you paying attention?

Last week, Richard Montgomery was on lockdown for this same issue.

Wheaton had a gun brought on campus: https://wjla.com/news/local/wheaton-high-school-bb-gun-montgomery-county-police-loaded-handgun-marijuana-backpack-teen-student

Blair G. Ewing Center (an alternative MCPS high school): https://wjla.com/news/local/montgomery-county-public-schools-blair-ewing-center-student-brought-handgun-ammunition-bullets-found-police-sro-resource-officers

Uninvited student apprehended at Bethesda MS: https://bethesdamagazine.com/2022/12/27/uninvited-student-apprehended-at-north-bethesda-ms/

BB Gun shooting at Silver Spring International Middle School: https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/local/maryland/7th-grader-shot-in-thigh-by-classmate-with-bb-gun-in-silver-spring-maryland/65-e231537c-2570-4705-be1b-3d82913b6bba

BB Guns at Walter Johnson and Magruder: https://bethesdamagazine.com/2022/03/24/bb-guns-recovered-at-magruder-walter-johnson-high-schools/

Blair lockdown: https://mocoshow.com/blog/blair-lockdown-lifted-following-report-of-weapon-outside-on-school-property/

Stabbing at Blair High School: https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/crime/stabbing-outside-high-school-shelter-in-place-montgomery-blair-high-school/65-ad2874d3-284b-4e94-be02-cfc375daaf54

But yeah.....the laws are working and we're overreacting to a single rumor. That math makes sense to you.


Lol, that was 1 week at RM alone in the 70’s and 80’s

The sky is falling, the sky is falling.


So you're not bothered. Noted.

The rest of us who care about our kids' wellbeing and have a moral code will continue the discussion.
Anonymous
Post 01/20/2023 14:57     Subject: Lockdown at Einstein High School

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:they just lifted it. my kids inside. says officers releasing classes. someone had a gun in art class is what kids are saying


This is terrifying. There is no barrier or deterrence to prevent kids from bringing weapons on school grounds. Why is everyone ok with this?

We go through screening at the airport to avoid this stuff but despite countless incidents at schools, we continue to let it be a free-for-all. I guess they're waiting for enough kids to die or get hurt before they do something drastic. Even though Magruder already happened on MCPS's watch.



Wrong. There are laws, and they generally work. No need to overreact to a single rumor (which is what this is so far).


A single rumor? Are you paying attention?

Last week, Richard Montgomery was on lockdown for this same issue.

Wheaton had a gun brought on campus: https://wjla.com/news/local/wheaton-high-school-bb-gun-montgomery-county-police-loaded-handgun-marijuana-backpack-teen-student

Blair G. Ewing Center (an alternative MCPS high school): https://wjla.com/news/local/montgomery-county-public-schools-blair-ewing-center-student-brought-handgun-ammunition-bullets-found-police-sro-resource-officers

Uninvited student apprehended at Bethesda MS: https://bethesdamagazine.com/2022/12/27/uninvited-student-apprehended-at-north-bethesda-ms/

BB Gun shooting at Silver Spring International Middle School: https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/local/maryland/7th-grader-shot-in-thigh-by-classmate-with-bb-gun-in-silver-spring-maryland/65-e231537c-2570-4705-be1b-3d82913b6bba

BB Guns at Walter Johnson and Magruder: https://bethesdamagazine.com/2022/03/24/bb-guns-recovered-at-magruder-walter-johnson-high-schools/

Blair lockdown: https://mocoshow.com/blog/blair-lockdown-lifted-following-report-of-weapon-outside-on-school-property/

Stabbing at Blair High School: https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/crime/stabbing-outside-high-school-shelter-in-place-montgomery-blair-high-school/65-ad2874d3-284b-4e94-be02-cfc375daaf54

But yeah.....the laws are working and we're overreacting to a single rumor. That math makes sense to you.


Lol, that was 1 week at RM alone in the 70’s and 80’s

The sky is falling, the sky is falling.
Anonymous
Post 01/20/2023 14:56     Subject: Re:Lockdown at Einstein High School

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Wow. So I guess this is gonna be a weekly occurrence. Where is MCPS security? They are failing.

+1 good lord. All this RJ, social emotional learning, "we don't need SROs" seem to be doing jacksh1t.

-RM parent whose kids just experienced this last week.


Well look, you didn’t need an SRO. The real cops handled it just like they should.

SROs are real cops, too, and they would be in the school rather than school having to call the police which takes time. They are trained to assess risk and deal with someone with a gun better than administrators or security guards.

And since you didn't address the other part of my statement, I guess you agree: RJ and social emotional learning is BS. Get rid of it, and focus on the real issues. Huge achievement gap, violence in schools against students and staff.


Assuming SRO’s are like any cop is like saying any cop can do SWAT or murder investigations. No not all cops are the same.

SRO s are not trained to assess anything, they have literally never stopped an incident from occurring.ever.

RJ works for some and not for others. Principals need to be able to expel and moco needs to stop moving bad kids around. But that’s not new. In 1997 moco move Sheinbein from a W school to Kennedy and he killed someone’s and dismembered them.



Yeah, principals definitely need to be able to go back to suspending and expelling disruptive kids. The RJ and current approach is failing abysmally.

How does the Blair G. Ewing Center work? Is that the new Mark Twain? Why don't they refer more kids to that school if they behave badly?
Anonymous
Post 01/20/2023 14:53     Subject: Re:Lockdown at Einstein High School

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Wow. So I guess this is gonna be a weekly occurrence. Where is MCPS security? They are failing.

+1 good lord. All this RJ, social emotional learning, "we don't need SROs" seem to be doing jacksh1t.

-RM parent whose kids just experienced this last week.


Well look, you didn’t need an SRO. The real cops handled it just like they should.

SROs are real cops, too, and they would be in the school rather than school having to call the police which takes time. They are trained to assess risk and deal with someone with a gun better than administrators or security guards.

And since you didn't address the other part of my statement, I guess you agree: RJ and social emotional learning is BS. Get rid of it, and focus on the real issues. Huge achievement gap, violence in schools against students and staff.


Assuming SRO’s are like any cop is like saying any cop can do SWAT or murder investigations. No not all cops are the same.

SRO s are not trained to assess anything, they have literally never stopped an incident from occurring.ever.

RJ works for some and not for others. Principals need to be able to expel and moco needs to stop moving bad kids around. But that’s not new. In 1997 moco move Sheinbein from a W school to Kennedy and he killed someone’s and dismembered them.

Anonymous
Post 01/20/2023 14:47     Subject: Lockdown at Einstein High School

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:they just lifted it. my kids inside. says officers releasing classes. someone had a gun in art class is what kids are saying


This is terrifying. There is no barrier or deterrence to prevent kids from bringing weapons on school grounds. Why is everyone ok with this?

We go through screening at the airport to avoid this stuff but despite countless incidents at schools, we continue to let it be a free-for-all. I guess they're waiting for enough kids to die or get hurt before they do something drastic. Even though Magruder already happened on MCPS's watch.



Wrong. There are laws, and they generally work. No need to overreact to a single rumor (which is what this is so far).


A single rumor? Are you paying attention?

Last week, Richard Montgomery was on lockdown for this same issue.

Wheaton had a gun brought on campus: https://wjla.com/news/local/wheaton-high-school-bb-gun-montgomery-county-police-loaded-handgun-marijuana-backpack-teen-student

Blair G. Ewing Center (an alternative MCPS high school): https://wjla.com/news/local/montgomery-county-public-schools-blair-ewing-center-student-brought-handgun-ammunition-bullets-found-police-sro-resource-officers

Uninvited student apprehended at Bethesda MS: https://bethesdamagazine.com/2022/12/27/uninvited-student-apprehended-at-north-bethesda-ms/

BB Gun shooting at Silver Spring International Middle School: https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/local/maryland/7th-grader-shot-in-thigh-by-classmate-with-bb-gun-in-silver-spring-maryland/65-e231537c-2570-4705-be1b-3d82913b6bba

BB Guns at Walter Johnson and Magruder: https://bethesdamagazine.com/2022/03/24/bb-guns-recovered-at-magruder-walter-johnson-high-schools/

Blair lockdown: https://mocoshow.com/blog/blair-lockdown-lifted-following-report-of-weapon-outside-on-school-property/

Stabbing at Blair High School: https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/crime/stabbing-outside-high-school-shelter-in-place-montgomery-blair-high-school/65-ad2874d3-284b-4e94-be02-cfc375daaf54

But yeah.....the laws are working and we're overreacting to a single rumor. That math makes sense to you.
Anonymous
Post 01/20/2023 14:47     Subject: Lockdown at Einstein High School

Bot this county is in some serious decline
Anonymous
Post 01/20/2023 14:45     Subject: Re:Lockdown at Einstein High School

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Wow. So I guess this is gonna be a weekly occurrence. Where is MCPS security? They are failing.

+1 good lord. All this RJ, social emotional learning, "we don't need SROs" seem to be doing jacksh1t.

-RM parent whose kids just experienced this last week.


Well look, you didn’t need an SRO. The real cops handled it just like they should.

SROs are real cops, too, and they would be in the school rather than school having to call the police which takes time. They are trained to assess risk and deal with someone with a gun better than administrators or security guards.

And since you didn't address the other part of my statement, I guess you agree: RJ and social emotional learning is BS. Get rid of it, and focus on the real issues. Huge achievement gap, violence in schools against students and staff.
Anonymous
Post 01/20/2023 14:39     Subject: Lockdown at Einstein High School

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:they just lifted it. my kids inside. says officers releasing classes. someone had a gun in art class is what kids are saying


This is terrifying. There is no barrier or deterrence to prevent kids from bringing weapons on school grounds. Why is everyone ok with this?

We go through screening at the airport to avoid this stuff but despite countless incidents at schools, we continue to let it be a free-for-all. I guess they're waiting for enough kids to die or get hurt before they do something drastic. Even though Magruder already happened on MCPS's watch.


Lots of us understand statistical risk and don’t want our kids to go to school in a jail.


So you prefer weekly lockdowns? Isn't that also similar to jail?

Make it make sense.
Anonymous
Post 01/20/2023 14:37     Subject: Lockdown at Einstein High School

It’s past time for metal detectors.
Anonymous
Post 01/20/2023 14:37     Subject: Re:Lockdown at Einstein High School

Anonymous
Post 01/20/2023 14:36     Subject: Re:Lockdown at Einstein High School

One person in custody

Anonymous
Post 01/20/2023 14:34     Subject: Lockdown at Einstein High School

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:they just lifted it. my kids inside. says officers releasing classes. someone had a gun in art class is what kids are saying


This is terrifying. There is no barrier or deterrence to prevent kids from bringing weapons on school grounds. Why is everyone ok with this?

We go through screening at the airport to avoid this stuff but despite countless incidents at schools, we continue to let it be a free-for-all. I guess they're waiting for enough kids to die or get hurt before they do something drastic. Even though Magruder already happened on MCPS's watch.



Wrong. There are laws, and they generally work. No need to overreact to a single rumor (which is what this is so far).
Anonymous
Post 01/20/2023 14:33     Subject: Lockdown at Einstein High School

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:they just lifted it. my kids inside. says officers releasing classes. someone had a gun in art class is what kids are saying


This is terrifying. There is no barrier or deterrence to prevent kids from bringing weapons on school grounds. Why is everyone ok with this?

We go through screening at the airport to avoid this stuff but despite countless incidents at schools, we continue to let it be a free-for-all. I guess they're waiting for enough kids to die or get hurt before they do something drastic. Even though Magruder already happened on MCPS's watch.


Lots of us understand statistical risk and don’t want our kids to go to school in a jail.
Anonymous
Post 01/20/2023 14:32     Subject: Re:Lockdown at Einstein High School

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Wow. So I guess this is gonna be a weekly occurrence. Where is MCPS security? They are failing.

+1 good lord. All this RJ, social emotional learning, "we don't need SROs" seem to be doing jacksh1t.

-RM parent whose kids just experienced this last week.


What we NEED is gun control.


And/or stronger security on school grounds.