Anonymous
Post 12/17/2022 15:15     Subject: I'm done with tipping
When Prop 82 goes into effect in DC I’m done with tipping too.
Anonymous
Post 12/17/2022 15:14     Subject: Re:I'm done with tipping
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Even the *way* we tip actually makes no sense at all. We're not tipping based on the amount of work (or service) provided, but on the cost of service. Your $150 a cut hairdresser is not working hard to do your hair than your $50 a cut hairdresser, but if you go by % you are tipping a lot more. Ditto for servers--it always annoyed me when I was one. If I have a table full of people drinking water and iced tea, and I have to run back and forth a zillion times for refills vs a table of full of same# of people who order one cocktail a piece and never ask for anything else, guess who is more work? Guess whose bill is much higher, and then the corresponding tip? It's stupid.


I agree with this and I usually correct for it and overtip if I’m not drinking or just have an appetizer.


Same (because I actually PREFER water, so that's what I drink). I tip as if that water was a glass of red.

Conversely, it is just as easy to do service for a $40 bottle of wine / 4 ppl as it is to do service for a $200 bottle / 4 ppl. So, on the rare occasions we splurge on the single bottle for the table, Server Susan isn't getting 28% of the $200. Sorry not sorry.

-- waited tables for 8 yrs in college / law school
Anonymous
Post 12/17/2022 15:12     Subject: Re:I'm done with tipping
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Even the *way* we tip actually makes no sense at all. We're not tipping based on the amount of work (or service) provided, but on the cost of service. Your $150 a cut hairdresser is not working hard to do your hair than your $50 a cut hairdresser, but if you go by % you are tipping a lot more. Ditto for servers--it always annoyed me when I was one. If I have a table full of people drinking water and iced tea, and I have to run back and forth a zillion times for refills vs a table of full of same# of people who order one cocktail a piece and never ask for anything else, guess who is more work? Guess whose bill is much higher, and then the corresponding tip? It's stupid.


I agree with this and I usually correct for it and overtip if I’m not drinking or just have an appetizer.


PP here. But really, why should you? We just need to pay everyone a living wage and stop letting business owners get away with expecting their customers to fund their employees. That's what started all of this nonsense.

Anonymous
Post 12/17/2022 15:12     Subject: I'm done with tipping
There is a similar thread about this not too long ago. I have never tipped on those swivel screens. I tip about 18 to 20% an in-service restaurant and I make my own coffee at home. Tipping culture is out of control.
Anonymous
Post 12/17/2022 15:10     Subject: I'm done with tipping
Anonymous wrote:I just tipped my nurse toxin injector thanks to that dumb spinning screen and it made me vow to go back to paying for everything in cash with exact change.


There is no way I would tip a nurse. I can't believe that a nurse would even accept one without being insulted. That's just wrong. What's next? Tip for getting my teeth cleaned? Filled? CHeck up? Insanity.
Anonymous
Post 12/17/2022 15:09     Subject: Re:I'm done with tipping
Anonymous wrote:Even the *way* we tip actually makes no sense at all. We're not tipping based on the amount of work (or service) provided, but on the cost of service. Your $150 a cut hairdresser is not working hard to do your hair than your $50 a cut hairdresser, but if you go by % you are tipping a lot more. Ditto for servers--it always annoyed me when I was one. If I have a table full of people drinking water and iced tea, and I have to run back and forth a zillion times for refills vs a table of full of same# of people who order one cocktail a piece and never ask for anything else, guess who is more work? Guess whose bill is much higher, and then the corresponding tip? It's stupid.


I agree with this and I usually correct for it and overtip if I’m not drinking or just have an appetizer.
Anonymous
Post 12/17/2022 15:07     Subject: Re:I'm done with tipping
I don’t care about this enough to do anything but I did recently try to tip the Target curbside guy and he said he couldn’t accept it. It was kind of refreshing.
Anonymous
Post 12/17/2022 15:00     Subject: Re:I'm done with tipping
Anonymous wrote:Even the *way* we tip actually makes no sense at all. We're not tipping based on the amount of work (or service) provided, but on the cost of service. Your $150 a cut hairdresser is not working hard to do your hair than your $50 a cut hairdresser, but if you go by % you are tipping a lot more. Ditto for servers--it always annoyed me when I was one. If I have a table full of people drinking water and iced tea, and I have to run back and forth a zillion times for refills vs a table of full of same# of people who order one cocktail a piece and never ask for anything else, guess who is more work? Guess whose bill is much higher, and then the corresponding tip? It's stupid.


When my friend was a waitress she used to dread my parents coming in...ice water with lemon that needed umpteen refills and then a shared entree. The bill would end up being the price of the entree ($25) and even though they were polite and nice, they were just as much work as a pricier table.
I always tip but I drew the line at a medspa where they expected 15, 18 or 20% on a $350 microneedling service. Hell no.
Anonymous
Post 12/17/2022 14:58     Subject: Re:I'm done with tipping
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You’ll probably be looking for a new hairdresser; your old one’s schedule will be mysteriously full.


Or she could just charge an appropriate price in the first place. OMG, such a novel concept, right?


Sure, she could, but it’s not the norm so she doesn’t have to. Get ready for some seriously bad haircuts.


Make it the norm. Not hard. Literally state the price. Then add no tips accepted.

Wow, so hard.


Obviously if they’d wanted to do that they would already have done so. And it would have to be industry-wide. Good luck with that.


+1. You’re just looking for an excuse to be a tightwad. Good luck receiving excellent service.
Anonymous
Post 12/17/2022 14:58     Subject: I'm done with tipping
Anonymous wrote:The most egregious is babysitters. I’m on a local FB group and apparently babysitters are now charging fees if you ASK them to babysit last minute? I used to always give sitters a few extra dollars, which I never considered a tip, I just rounded up, but now sitters expect tips! And they charge an arm & leg.


Supply and demand. Don't go out then.
Anonymous
Post 12/17/2022 14:57     Subject: I'm done with tipping
Anonymous wrote:The most egregious is babysitters. I’m on a local FB group and apparently babysitters are now charging fees if you ASK them to babysit last minute? I used to always give sitters a few extra dollars, which I never considered a tip, I just rounded up, but now sitters expect tips! And they charge an arm & leg.


Hmm. What exactly are you going to do about it?
Anonymous
Post 12/17/2022 14:56     Subject: I'm done with tipping
The most egregious is babysitters. I’m on a local FB group and apparently babysitters are now charging fees if you ASK them to babysit last minute? I used to always give sitters a few extra dollars, which I never considered a tip, I just rounded up, but now sitters expect tips! And they charge an arm & leg.
Anonymous
Post 12/17/2022 14:54     Subject: I'm done with tipping
Agree. I only tip restaurant servers, and when I travel I tip the housekeepers & bellman.

Done!
Anonymous
Post 12/17/2022 14:51     Subject: Re:I'm done with tipping
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You’ll probably be looking for a new hairdresser; your old one’s schedule will be mysteriously full.


Or she could just charge an appropriate price in the first place. OMG, such a novel concept, right?


My stylist recently changed to a flat fee, no tipping model and I think it’s great.
Anonymous
Post 12/17/2022 14:49     Subject: Re:I'm done with tipping
Even the *way* we tip actually makes no sense at all. We're not tipping based on the amount of work (or service) provided, but on the cost of service. Your $150 a cut hairdresser is not working hard to do your hair than your $50 a cut hairdresser, but if you go by % you are tipping a lot more. Ditto for servers--it always annoyed me when I was one. If I have a table full of people drinking water and iced tea, and I have to run back and forth a zillion times for refills vs a table of full of same# of people who order one cocktail a piece and never ask for anything else, guess who is more work? Guess whose bill is much higher, and then the corresponding tip? It's stupid.