Anonymous wrote:Not all of my kid's events are in there and the rankings seem off.

How do I get the score?

Go to the calculator and plug in your kid’s times for each event and then add them up.

https://www.usaswimming.org/times/popular-resources/power-point-calculator

So when I goto AAC, not a single swimmer has the IMX tab like the Sea Devils.

Not all of my kid's events are in there and the rankings seem off.

How do I get the score?

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Anonymous wrote:What if my May birthday DS had over 1800 points as a 12, turned 13 end of May. Do they qualify for this years meet without having done all the events for 13/14. Finding conflicting info was going to have him ask coach but saw this thread

I don’t think so, the points have to be accumulated in the current season. This rule is more for the kid who turns 11 say in December, but in October and November had completed all the IMX events with enough points to qualify for the 9-10 group. That kid is allowed to compete in the 11-12 IMX event based on their accumulated 9-10 points.

If your swimmer got 1800 points between 21 Sep 2021 and the end of May as a 12 year old, then yes- he would be eligible. It’s in the meet announcement.

I would ask your coach. It feels like a lot of misinformation on this thread. For example, I think points readjust by age. The same swim will score differently at age 11, I think than age 12. But I am not positive.

Yeah, I would definitely ask the coach since the rules aren’t exactly the clearest. For example, my kid is 10, and is about 210 points short right now. They will swim the events where they need to pick up some points at January’s meet, but they also don’t age up until May, so does that mean they can qualify for this years 9-10 IMX and then use the same points to qualify for next year’s IMX meet as an 11 year old?

The rules makes sense to me. Starting on 21 September 2021, whatever age your kid is, they need to swim all their IMX events. Once they have completed all events, a score is generated. Whenever they have a birthday, their score resets to zero, and they need to swim all those events again to generate a new score. SCY and LCM are different scores, and you can't mix points from each even at the same age. This is why the qualifying period goes back so far-- to give every kid a chance to generate a score no matter their birthday. And qualifying in any one of these periods (21-22 SCY, 22 LCM, 22-23 SCY) makes you eligible for the meet, even if the kid was nine when they qualified, but 10 now. Kids need to swim their current age of the meet date, even if they qualified as a year younger, so some 13 year olds could show up without times in the 200s of stroke.

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Anonymous wrote:What if my May birthday DS had over 1800 points as a 12, turned 13 end of May. Do they qualify for this years meet without having done all the events for 13/14. Finding conflicting info was going to have him ask coach but saw this thread

I don’t think so, the points have to be accumulated in the current season. This rule is more for the kid who turns 11 say in December, but in October and November had completed all the IMX events with enough points to qualify for the 9-10 group. That kid is allowed to compete in the 11-12 IMX event based on their accumulated 9-10 points.

If your swimmer got 1800 points between 21 Sep 2021 and the end of May as a 12 year old, then yes- he would be eligible. It’s in the meet announcement.

I would ask your coach. It feels like a lot of misinformation on this thread. For example, I think points readjust by age. The same swim will score differently at age 11, I think than age 12. But I am not positive.

Yeah, I would definitely ask the coach since the rules aren’t exactly the clearest. For example, my kid is 10, and is about 210 points short right now. They will swim the events where they need to pick up some points at January’s meet, but they also don’t age up until May, so does that mean they can qualify for this years 9-10 IMX and then use the same points to qualify for next year’s IMX meet as an 11 year old?

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Anonymous wrote:What if my May birthday DS had over 1800 points as a 12, turned 13 end of May. Do they qualify for this years meet without having done all the events for 13/14. Finding conflicting info was going to have him ask coach but saw this thread

I don’t think so, the points have to be accumulated in the current season. This rule is more for the kid who turns 11 say in December, but in October and November had completed all the IMX events with enough points to qualify for the 9-10 group. That kid is allowed to compete in the 11-12 IMX event based on their accumulated 9-10 points.

If your swimmer got 1800 points between 21 Sep 2021 and the end of May as a 12 year old, then yes- he would be eligible. It’s in the meet announcement.

I would ask your coach. It feels like a lot of misinformation on this thread. For example, I think points readjust by age. The same swim will score differently at age 11, I think than age 12. But I am not positive.

My kid’s coach told me you need a legal time in each IMX event (even if you have the points). That is the whole point of IMX - to get kids to swim everything.

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Anonymous wrote:What if my May birthday DS had over 1800 points as a 12, turned 13 end of May. Do they qualify for this years meet without having done all the events for 13/14. Finding conflicting info was going to have him ask coach but saw this thread

I don’t think so, the points have to be accumulated in the current season. This rule is more for the kid who turns 11 say in December, but in October and November had completed all the IMX events with enough points to qualify for the 9-10 group. That kid is allowed to compete in the 11-12 IMX event based on their accumulated 9-10 points.

If your swimmer got 1800 points between 21 Sep 2021 and the end of May as a 12 year old, then yes- he would be eligible. It’s in the meet announcement.

Anonymous wrote:What if my May birthday DS had over 1800 points as a 12, turned 13 end of May. Do they qualify for this years meet without having done all the events for 13/14. Finding conflicting info was going to have him ask coach but saw this thread

I don’t think so, the points have to be accumulated in the current season. This rule is more for the kid who turns 11 say in December, but in October and November had completed all the IMX events with enough points to qualify for the 9-10 group. That kid is allowed to compete in the 11-12 IMX event based on their accumulated 9-10 points.

What if my May birthday DS had over 1800 points as a 12, turned 13 end of May. Do they qualify for this years meet without having done all the events for 13/14. Finding conflicting info was going to have him ask coach but saw this thread

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Anonymous wrote:Did you used to need a time in each event? Maybe it was a club-specific requirement but my kid didn’t qualify despite def having the points bc didn’t have a time in one specific event. This was pre pandemic.

As a meet requirement, no.

They are required to enter every event at the meet though.

I don't believe this is correct. You have to swim all to get your points. Below is from USA swimming: https://www.usaswimming.org/times/imx-imr

How do I qualify for IMX/IMR?
An IMR or IMX score is only established after a swimmer has swum all of the events required for their age group in a sanctioned meet since the start of the current season; both short and long course seasons start Sept. 1 and end Aug. 31 for IMR/IMX purposes. Additionally, a swimmer must complete all of the events in the same course (SCY or LCM) to have a score in that particular course.

That’s for a score, not the meet entry requirements. You will see a few NTs in entries.

Our group doesn’t do this meet with 13-14s, but there is nothing to prevent my 14yo with 3000+ points but has never swum a 200 breast to enter (and first swim it at IMX meet).

You should not see NT for 14 yo.. but thee will be few for 13 as they qualified as 12 and age up before the meet.

To clarify.. they probably got qualifying points for all 12 yo events then they age up... so as 11/12 the events are mostly 100, so you will see NT for their 13/14 200 events.
This should only happen for 13... as 13/14 swim same events

The same thing with 9/10 and 11/12... you can have NT for your 500 scy or 400 lcm when you are 11 as long as you have enough points for all 9/10 events and all the pints happen in the same season.

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Anonymous wrote:Did you used to need a time in each event? Maybe it was a club-specific requirement but my kid didn’t qualify despite def having the points bc didn’t have a time in one specific event. This was pre pandemic.

As a meet requirement, no.

They are required to enter every event at the meet though.

I don't believe this is correct. You have to swim all to get your points. Below is from USA swimming: https://www.usaswimming.org/times/imx-imr

How do I qualify for IMX/IMR?
An IMR or IMX score is only established after a swimmer has swum all of the events required for their age group in a sanctioned meet since the start of the current season; both short and long course seasons start Sept. 1 and end Aug. 31 for IMR/IMX purposes. Additionally, a swimmer must complete all of the events in the same course (SCY or LCM) to have a score in that particular course.

That’s for a score, not the meet entry requirements. You will see a few NTs in entries.

Our group doesn’t do this meet with 13-14s, but there is nothing to prevent my 14yo with 3000+ points but has never swum a 200 breast to enter (and first swim it at IMX meet).

You should not see NT for 14 yo.. but thee will be few for 13 as they qualified as 12 and age up before the meet.

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Anonymous wrote:Did you used to need a time in each event? Maybe it was a club-specific requirement but my kid didn’t qualify despite def having the points bc didn’t have a time in one specific event. This was pre pandemic.

As a meet requirement, no.

They are required to enter every event at the meet though.

I don't believe this is correct. You have to swim all to get your points. Below is from USA swimming: https://www.usaswimming.org/times/imx-imr

How do I qualify for IMX/IMR?
An IMR or IMX score is only established after a swimmer has swum all of the events required for their age group in a sanctioned meet since the start of the current season; both short and long course seasons start Sept. 1 and end Aug. 31 for IMR/IMX purposes. Additionally, a swimmer must complete all of the events in the same course (SCY or LCM) to have a score in that particular course.

That’s for a score, not the meet entry requirements. You will see a few NTs in entries.

Our group doesn’t do this meet with 13-14s, but there is nothing to prevent my 14yo with 3000+ points but has never swum a 200 breast to enter (and first swim it at IMX meet).

I don't think that's true. From the meet announcement: "Proof of Entry Score - To enter the meet an athlete must have a minimum IMX Challenge qualifying score of 1800 verified by USA
Swimming."

USA Swimming does not generate a qualifying score until all the events are swum. So they don't have to do particularly well in that last event- only having one point is enough- but they do have to swim it.

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Anonymous wrote:Did you used to need a time in each event? Maybe it was a club-specific requirement but my kid didn’t qualify despite def having the points bc didn’t have a time in one specific event. This was pre pandemic.

As a meet requirement, no.

They are required to enter every event at the meet though.

I don't believe this is correct. You have to swim all to get your points. Below is from USA swimming: https://www.usaswimming.org/times/imx-imr

How do I qualify for IMX/IMR?
An IMR or IMX score is only established after a swimmer has swum all of the events required for their age group in a sanctioned meet since the start of the current season; both short and long course seasons start Sept. 1 and end Aug. 31 for IMR/IMX purposes. Additionally, a swimmer must complete all of the events in the same course (SCY or LCM) to have a score in that particular course.

That’s for a score, not the meet entry requirements. You will see a few NTs in entries.

Our group doesn’t do this meet with 13-14s, but there is nothing to prevent my 14yo with 3000+ points but has never swum a 200 breast to enter (and first swim it at IMX meet).

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Anonymous wrote:Did you used to need a time in each event? Maybe it was a club-specific requirement but my kid didn’t qualify despite def having the points bc didn’t have a time in one specific event. This was pre pandemic.

Last year, there were 3 NT entries in the boys' meet. https://www.pvswim.org/2122meet/22-107rm.html In one case, the kid got a time in the NT event after the meet entry deadline, but still before the meet started, such that he had a time in all 5 events. I think the kid without a time in the 200 BR snuck in under the age up rule, i.e., he used his 12 year old times and IMX score, at the shorter distance(s), to qualify even though he was 13 when the meet occurred.

Yes, you can qualify with your younger age if you happen to age up before the meet, it has to be within the qualifying time. You have to swim all events for that younger age.
This is the goal of IMX, to encourage everyone swimming different events.