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I believe Northeastern beat Ohio in most of the areas.

Actually I believe you don't know what you're talking about. Per US News (and fwiw other rankings like Forbes and WSJ are less upbeat on Northeastern)

Expert opinion (peer assessment by educators and administrators): Ohio State 3.9/5, Northeastern 3.6/5
Best undergraduate teaching: OSU #54; Northeastern not in top 100
Undergraduate business programs: OSU #13; NEU #37
Undergraduate engineering programs: OSU #27, OSU #50.
USNWR ranking among global universities: OSU #55; Northeastern #194.

Look, Northeastern's a perfectly fine school, and it's popular, especially with kids who want to go to school in Boston or like the coop program, and its mostly talented grads seem to land in mostly good jobs. So if your kid wants to go there and gets in, great. But the fact that it's (openly and admittedly) gamed its way up the US News ranking doesn't mean Northeastern provides the same caliber of undergraduate education as its like-ranked peers on that ranking, as the US News data breakdown shows, and as the Forbes and WSJ rankings are even clearer about. Even if you don't care about that, other readers might.

I believe Northeastern beat Ohio in most of the areas.

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https://poetsandquantsforundergrads.com/rankings/best-undergraduate-business-schools-business-school-rankings/4/
Best Undergraduate Business School based on Career Outcomes Data & Results
Northeastern #14

That list excludes MIT, Caltech, Brown, Rice, UC Berkeley, UCLA, Penn State, and University of Florida.

The Northeastern fans just cite incomplete, superficial, and biased rankings. They never discuss quality of faculty, students, scholarship, or teaching. They are obviously not looking for the same thing as most DCUM posters.

Anonymous wrote:
https://poetsandquantsforundergrads.com/rankings/best-undergraduate-business-schools-business-school-rankings/4/
Best Undergraduate Business School based on Career Outcomes Data & Results
Northeastern #14

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I'm much more interested in undergraduate education.
Nobel prize association have nothing much to do with undergrad.
I believe Northeastern beat Ohio in most of the areas.

You seem unfamiliar with college. The quality of faculty has everything to do with undergrad education. They are the experts who can teach the real knowledge, instead of just telling students to read a textbook or watch Youtube. The top faculty are world experts, and the best junior faculty and Ph.D. students come to work with them. These junior faculty and Ph.D. students do most of the undergrad teaching.

Pick any academic area, and we can compare Northeastern to Ohio State or similar schools. The current chairman of Northeastern's finance department got her Ph.D. from Ohio State. The Accounting chairman's Ph.D. is from Penn State, and Marketing is from University of South Florida. Can you find senior faculty from those schools with Ph.D.'s from Northeastern? No!

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Anonymous wrote:
I'm much more interested in undergraduate education.
Nobel prize association have nothing much to do with undergrad.
I believe Northeastern beat Ohio in most of the areas.

You seem unfamiliar with college. The quality of faculty has everything to do with undergrad education. They are the experts who can teach the real knowledge, instead of just telling students to read a textbook or watch Youtube. The top faculty are world experts, and the best junior faculty and Ph.D. students come to work with them. These junior faculty and Ph.D. students do most of the undergrad teaching.

Pick any academic area, and we can compare Northeastern to Ohio State or similar schools. The current chairman of Northeastern's finance department got her Ph.D. from Ohio State. The Accounting chairman's Ph.D. is from Penn State, and Marketing is from University of South Florida. Can you find senior faculty from those schools with Ph.D.'s from Northeastern? No!

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Anonymous wrote:Most overrated college in America

+1. Tulane too.

What's your methodology?

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Anonymous wrote:Most overrated college in America

+1. Tulane too.

Anonymous wrote:Most overrated college in America

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
I'm much more interested in undergraduate education.
Nobel prize association have nothing much to do with undergrad.
I believe Northeastern beat Ohio in most of the areas.

You seem unfamiliar with college. The quality of faculty has everything to do with undergrad education. They are the experts who can teach the real knowledge, instead of just telling students to read a textbook or watch Youtube. The top faculty are world experts, and the best junior faculty and Ph.D. students come to work with them. These junior faculty and Ph.D. students do most of the undergrad teaching.

Pick any academic area, and we can compare Northeastern to Ohio State or similar schools. The current chairman of Northeastern's finance department got her Ph.D. from Ohio State. The Accounting chairman's Ph.D. is from Penn State, and Marketing is from University of South Florida. Can you find senior faculty from those schools with Ph.D.'s from Northeastern? No!

Anonymous wrote:
I'm much more interested in undergraduate education.
Nobel prize association have nothing much to do with undergrad.
I believe Northeastern beat Ohio in most of the areas.

Anonymous wrote:People don't need to make college decisions like in the 80s and 90s anymore when they had to  go with rumors, hype, and worthless prestige.
Northeastern is getting more popular because educated intelligent people can now make decisions based on more data and sources. 

Northeastern's major metrics are on par with many of the T20 T25 schools.
It's currently pretty underrated and under-ranked 

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Northeastern's major metrics are on par with many of the T20 T25 schools.

That is exactly the problem. Northeastern has been gaming those metrics harder than other schools.

https://www.bostonmagazine.com/news/2014/08/26/how-northeastern-gamed-the-college-rankings/

So, Northeastern has improved their ranking from around #160 to #44 in US News. Part of this has involved fundraising, which obviously provides more resources for education. Northeastern has successful coop intern programs to help students get jobs. That is valuable for many students. But relentless focus on metrics ignores important things that are not quantified in USNews rankings.

Let's compare to #49 Ohio State. Ohio State has a good law school and good business school with an undergraduate major. They have good math, physcis, and economics. They have famous climate scientist Lonnie Thompson. And of course, they have nationally competitive sports. Schools like Ohio State cannot be built in a decade. They require long, continuous dedication to funding excellent scholarship and teaching. I can't name any professors at Northeastern. Northeastern would happily hire Ohio State Ph.D. students as professors, but the reverse rarely happens (if ever).

Imagine going to Ohio State, and attending a campus lecture where Lonnie Thompson explains how he hiked up the Himalayas to get ice core samples to measure global warming. Then in your environmental science lab, the teaching assistant says "That fatso Thompson sat at base camp and made me carry the ice cores!" That is the type of inspiration you can get at a place like Ohio State. It isn't just one famous man. It is a collection of experts dedicated to their fields, who will share the latest knowledge in every discipline.

A quick web search shows: The following alumni and faculty members of The Ohio State University have been recognized as Nobel laureates:

Paul Flory, 1974, Chemistry (PhD, Ohio State, 1934)
William A. Fowler, 1983, Physics (BS, Ohio State, 1933)
Kenneth G. Wilson, 1982, Physics (faculty, 1988-2002)
Additionally, Rattan Lal (PhD, Ohio State, 1968; faculty, 1987-present) was a member of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), which shared the 2007 Nobel Peace Prize with Al Gore.