Anonymous
Post 11/19/2022 16:11     Subject: Inside the great teacher resignation

Anonymous wrote: In hindsight, I would have done the complete opposite of closing the schools. I would have kept schools open though the summer and told them to take the schedule they had all ready planned for March - May and repeat it June- August. Let both the employees and students pick which block to attend so that individual staff and kids contacted hours and vacation time was honoured but just shifted.

The medical field practiced de-densification, ie reducing the number of people in a room and building to reduce spread. This would have had the same principle.


School systems were unwilling to do that. Mostly because of $.
Anonymous
Post 11/19/2022 16:10     Subject: Inside the great teacher resignation

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Byyeeee.

School is not childcare. We remember.


Sorry, I don’t care about that anymore.

Old news.

I want my kids taught by experience teachers. I don’t want to drive them away.


We all want our kids taught by skilled, reliable teachers. But then our teachers refused to come to work. They came back, but how long until their next temper tantrum?


Health concerns are a temper tantrum? MCPS issued a blanket denial of ADA accommodations to teachers who wanted to return, but needed some additional safeguards in place. Then, Central Office was in shock that people quit rather than disregard their doctors’ recommendations.
Anonymous
Post 11/19/2022 16:05     Subject: Inside the great teacher resignation

In hindsight, I would have done the complete opposite of closing the schools. I would have kept schools open though the summer and told them to take the schedule they had all ready planned for March - May and repeat it June- August. Let both the employees and students pick which block to attend so that individual staff and kids contacted hours and vacation time was honoured but just shifted.

The medical field practiced de-densification, ie reducing the number of people in a room and building to reduce spread. This would have had the same principle.
Anonymous
Post 11/19/2022 15:48     Subject: Inside the great teacher resignation

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Byyeeee.

School is not childcare. We remember.


Sorry, I don’t care about that anymore.

Old news.

I want my kids taught by experience teachers. I don’t want to drive them away.


We all want our kids taught by skilled, reliable teachers. But then our teachers refused to come to work. They came back, but how long until their next temper tantrum?


Parents like you are why they aren't continuing to teach. They did work. Teaching virtually per the government's decision is working. You had the tantrum as you cannot handle your kids all day every day.


Huh? What parent working outside the home full time can?


In her mind, working parents aren’t good parents.
Anonymous
Post 11/19/2022 15:47     Subject: Inside the great teacher resignation

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Byyeeee.

School is not childcare. We remember.


Sorry, I don’t care about that anymore.

Old news.

I want my kids taught by experience teachers. I don’t want to drive them away.


We all want our kids taught by skilled, reliable teachers. But then our teachers refused to come to work. They came back, but how long until their next temper tantrum?


Temper tantrum? It's called "resignation" or "quitting", lady. Like, you know, 1200 Twitter employees had a "temper tantrum" yesterday.


Resigning would have been preferable. Instead they quit, but still expected to be paid until they were willing to do them again.
Anonymous
Post 11/19/2022 15:47     Subject: Inside the great teacher resignation

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Byyeeee.

School is not childcare. We remember.


Sorry, I don’t care about that anymore.

Old news.

I want my kids taught by experience teachers. I don’t want to drive them away.


We all want our kids taught by skilled, reliable teachers. But then our teachers refused to come to work. They came back, but how long until their next temper tantrum?


Parents like you are why they aren't continuing to teach. They did work. Teaching virtually per the government's decision is working. You had the tantrum as you cannot handle your kids all day every day.


Huh? What parent working outside the home full time can?
Anonymous
Post 11/19/2022 15:38     Subject: Inside the great teacher resignation

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Byyeeee.

School is not childcare. We remember.


Sorry, I don’t care about that anymore.

Old news.

I want my kids taught by experience teachers. I don’t want to drive them away.


We all want our kids taught by skilled, reliable teachers. But then our teachers refused to come to work. They came back, but how long until their next temper tantrum?


Temper tantrum? It's called "resignation" or "quitting", lady. Like, you know, 1200 Twitter employees had a "temper tantrum" yesterday.
Anonymous
Post 11/19/2022 15:36     Subject: Inside the great teacher resignation

My kids’ private school has no issue attracting and retaining teachers. We recently landed a very talented teacher from PG county. And of course we opened much sooner than publics during the pandemic.

Schools need to really engage in some self reflection on why they’re having these issues.
Anonymous
Post 11/19/2022 15:35     Subject: Inside the great teacher resignation

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Byyeeee.

School is not childcare. We remember.


Sorry, I don’t care about that anymore.

Old news.

I want my kids taught by experience teachers. I don’t want to drive them away.


We all want our kids taught by skilled, reliable teachers. But then our teachers refused to come to work. They came back, but how long until their next temper tantrum?


Parents like you are why they aren't continuing to teach. They did work. Teaching virtually per the government's decision is working. You had the tantrum as you cannot handle your kids all day every day.


The data says otherwise. Virtual school was a tremendous failure, on multiple levels. Student performance dropped significantly. Kids with special needs lost their education services and supports. Millions suffered from losing access to safe and supportive educational environments.


It wasn't a failure for many of our kids. It was a failure for kids who didn't do the work, show up for class, etc.


The “I got mine” attitude that makes ‘Merica great. Who cares about those other kids? Their parents never should have had them if they weren’t willing and able to quit their jobs for them. Particularly the parents that had the audacity to have kids with special needs.
Anonymous
Post 11/19/2022 15:31     Subject: Inside the great teacher resignation

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Byyeeee.

School is not childcare. We remember.


Sorry, I don’t care about that anymore.

Old news.

I want my kids taught by experience teachers. I don’t want to drive them away.


We all want our kids taught by skilled, reliable teachers. But then our teachers refused to come to work. They came back, but how long until their next temper tantrum?


Parents like you are why they aren't continuing to teach. They did work. Teaching virtually per the government's decision is working. You had the tantrum as you cannot handle your kids all day every day.


The data says otherwise. Virtual school was a tremendous failure, on multiple levels. Student performance dropped significantly. Kids with special needs lost their education services and supports. Millions suffered from losing access to safe and supportive educational environments.


DP While all that may be true to blame teachers and cynically refer to "temper tantrums" is a large part of why teachers are leaving the field. Many of the decisions made by authorities during the pandemic have turned out to be wrong or misguided but it's easy to criticize and cast blame and not so easy to understand how difficult it was to make snap decisions in a once in a lifetime situation.


Almost no one criticizes the snap decisions in March 2020. It was keeping schools closed in fall 2020, after we knew much more about Covid, which continued on into 2021 in some cases. And when they did reopen, some schools reopened with silly hybrid schedules and added days off.

It is revisionist history to claim these were "snap decisions" made by local "authorities." The decisions were heavily influenced by teachers, through strikes, threats of strikes, protests, and organized political activity.
Anonymous
Post 11/19/2022 15:24     Subject: Inside the great teacher resignation

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Byyeeee.

School is not childcare. We remember.


Sorry, I don’t care about that anymore.

Old news.

I want my kids taught by experience teachers. I don’t want to drive them away.


We all want our kids taught by skilled, reliable teachers. But then our teachers refused to come to work. They came back, but how long until their next temper tantrum?


Parents like you are why they aren't continuing to teach. They did work. Teaching virtually per the government's decision is working. You had the tantrum as you cannot handle your kids all day every day.


The data says otherwise. Virtual school was a tremendous failure, on multiple levels. Student performance dropped significantly. Kids with special needs lost their education services and supports. Millions suffered from losing access to safe and supportive educational environments.


It wasn't a failure for many of our kids. It was a failure for kids who didn't do the work, show up for class, etc.
Anonymous
Post 11/19/2022 15:20     Subject: Inside the great teacher resignation

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Byyeeee.

School is not childcare. We remember.


Sorry, I don’t care about that anymore.

Old news.

I want my kids taught by experience teachers. I don’t want to drive them away.


We all want our kids taught by skilled, reliable teachers. But then our teachers refused to come to work. They came back, but how long until their next temper tantrum?


Parents like you are why they aren't continuing to teach. They did work. Teaching virtually per the government's decision is working. You had the tantrum as you cannot handle your kids all day every day.


The data says otherwise. Virtual school was a tremendous failure, on multiple levels. Student performance dropped significantly. Kids with special needs lost their education services and supports. Millions suffered from losing access to safe and supportive educational environments.


DP While all that may be true to blame teachers and cynically refer to "temper tantrums" is a large part of why teachers are leaving the field. Many of the decisions made by authorities during the pandemic have turned out to be wrong or misguided but it's easy to criticize and cast blame and not so easy to understand how difficult it was to make snap decisions in a once in a lifetime situation.
Anonymous
Post 11/19/2022 15:15     Subject: Inside the great teacher resignation

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Byyeeee.

School is not childcare. We remember.


Sorry, I don’t care about that anymore.

Old news.

I want my kids taught by experience teachers. I don’t want to drive them away.


We all want our kids taught by skilled, reliable teachers. But then our teachers refused to come to work. They came back, but how long until their next temper tantrum?


Parents like you are why they aren't continuing to teach. They did work. Teaching virtually per the government's decision is working. You had the tantrum as you cannot handle your kids all day every day.


The data says otherwise. Virtual school was a tremendous failure, on multiple levels. Student performance dropped significantly. Kids with special needs lost their education services and supports. Millions suffered from losing access to safe and supportive educational environments.
Anonymous
Post 11/19/2022 15:14     Subject: Inside the great teacher resignation

Anonymous wrote:Byyeeee.

School is not childcare. We remember.


I remember this too

My take is that politics were deemed more important than education during the pandemic and that is still going on now, just in other areas not pandemic related.

I do think there needs to be a “changing of the guards” in order to fix our public education system. Some teachers leaving is probably part of that, although I’d definitely prefer a change of admin rather than a change of teachers. The older teachers in particular are probably ones we should try to keep since they remember how things were back when kids leaned real stuff at school instead of nonsense, and they know what behavioral standards we should be expecting.
Anonymous
Post 11/19/2022 15:12     Subject: Inside the great teacher resignation

Anonymous wrote:Some here don't like hearing it, but this is all part of the GOP plan:
Get rid of the federal Department of Education, Destroy local public schools,
Complain how bad local public schools,
Give vouchers so more can go to private, meaning, Christian


The irony is that Democrats and teachers' unions did more to help private schools and the case for vouchers than Republicans could ever do. School closures in 2020 drove over a million students out of public schools. And this wasn’t temporary-- public school enrollment went down even further in 2021.

If you want people to support public schools, then you need to convince people they can count on them. Trust needs to be earned back.