Anonymous wrote:Yale Law School won't participate anymore. Others will soon follow, right?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Law school rankings are a slightly different kettle of fish. The T14 virtually never change, and every law firm knows what those are, so either way, not a huge impact.

From another angle, however, this makes one wonder what Yale feels it needs to hide.

Exactly. I’m no fan of the USNW rankings, but Yale & Harvard were fine with them when they were 1 & 2. Now they’re starting to drop in the rankings, they want to take their ball and go home.

It does make one wonder if the backlash against the recent shenanigans on campus is having an effect on employment prospects for graduates.

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Anonymous wrote:You mean return to the prehistoric days where there were no rankings and kids applied to whatever school they’d heard of? No thanks. I’d rather see schools noticed for their efforts to improve programs. Sure there’s lots of gaming but it’s better than NO information.

No rankings doesn't mean "no information". We have the internet now, and there's no reason an org like US News or other outlets can't compile information on colleges that is relevant to students and their families. It's actually possible to provide info like:

- What majors are offered
- A school's reputation in a given industry
- Post-graduate employment statistics
- Average class size
- Student survey results on campus culture, accessibility of professors, and overall experience

And so on. But different students can want or need wildly different things in a school. So having a single list that ranks US colleges and universities based on a relatively narrow set of factors (all of which are "game-able" for the university) is nonsensical. The only people who like it are the hyper-competitive parents and kids who want the bragging rights of attending a "top" school regardless of whether the school is a good fit for their kids.

Anonymous wrote:Schools would rather not have any transparency.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Law school rankings are a slightly different kettle of fish. The T14 virtually never change, and every law firm knows what those are, so either way, not a huge impact.

From another angle, however, this makes one wonder what Yale feels it needs to hide.

Exactly. I’m no fan of the USNW rankings, but Yale & Harvard were fine with them when they were 1 & 2. Now they’re starting to drop in the rankings, they want to take their ball and go home.

It does make one wonder if the backlash against the recent shenanigans on campus is having an effect on employment prospects for graduates.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Law school rankings are a slightly different kettle of fish. The T14 virtually never change, and every law firm knows what those are, so either way, not a huge impact.

From another angle, however, this makes one wonder what Yale feels it needs to hide.

Exactly. I’m no fan of the USNW rankings, but Yale & Harvard were fine with them when they were 1 & 2. Now they’re starting to drop in the rankings, they want to take their ball and go home.

It does make one wonder if the backlash against the recent shenanigans on campus is having an effect on employment prospects for graduates.

Anonymous wrote:Law school rankings are a slightly different kettle of fish. The T14 virtually never change, and every law firm knows what those are, so either way, not a huge impact.

From another angle, however, this makes one wonder what Yale feels it needs to hide.

Anonymous wrote:The rankings have no value for the top ten or fifteen law schools anyway. Everyone knows what they are.

After the top 15, things get much trickier. How many people know off the top off their head which law school is better, Minnesota, UNC Chapel Hill, Florida, or Iowa? They're all ranked 21 to 28.

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Anonymous wrote:what a coward.
just law school LOL

The prestige colleges are next. It's inevitable.

Anonymous wrote:what a coward.
just law school LOL

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You mean return to the prehistoric days where there were no rankings and kids applied to whatever school they’d heard of? No thanks. I’d rather see schools noticed for their efforts to improve programs. Sure there’s lots of gaming but it’s better than NO information.

No rankings doesn't mean "no information". We have the internet now, and there's no reason an org like US News or other outlets can't compile information on colleges that is relevant to students and their families. It's actually possible to provide info like:

- What majors are offered
- A school's reputation in a given industry
- Post-graduate employment statistics
- Average class size
- Student survey results on campus culture, accessibility of professors, and overall experience

And so on. But different students can want or need wildly different things in a school. So having a single list that ranks US colleges and universities based on a relatively narrow set of factors (all of which are "game-able" for the university) is nonsensical. The only people who like it are the hyper-competitive parents and kids who want the bragging rights of attending a "top" school regardless of whether the school is a good fit for their kids.

+1 Here's a good essay on why (and how) people should make their own rankings based on what's important to them using info that's easily available to anyone.

https://lesshighschoolstress.com/blog/