Anonymous
Post 11/13/2022 21:10     Subject: This is a good argument for private - teaching reading
Anonymous wrote:I teach AP statistics and the unit we are finishing up is all about designing good studies/experiments and drawing valid conclusions/generalizations.

Thank you for providing my warm up for tomorrow, lol. Plenty to pick apart in this post.


I mean you also sound like as much of an idiot as the op and I’d be annoyed if my kids AP stat teacher brought this up. Like duh it’s a sample of two non random k kids in two different schools. If my 17yo in an AP class doesn’t realize this is not a conclusive randomized experiment I guess I know why they are in AP stat instead of calc.
Anonymous
Post 11/13/2022 21:05     Subject: Re:This is a good argument for private - teaching reading
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:MCPS hasn't taught phonics in over a decade....maybe more. They are just now trying to return to that method once they realized what a grave mistake it was. Luckily, I thought my kid phonics myself before I enrolled him.


+1 and oh what a disaster it was. Half of MCPS third graders don’t read at grade level. This is crucial time of the switch from learning to read to reading to learn. Thank you Messrs Weast, Starr, and Smith. For Madam McKnight, the jury is still out


MCPS isn't comparable to privates and many kids struggled for many years in MCPS. Privates can kick kids out who don't preform well so it gives a very skewed viewpoint. Kids need support at home. Phonics doesn't work for all kids.


This isn't about privates vs. publics. It's about a failed reading curriculum that public schools (and some private schools) embraced. Balanced literacy was a huge disaster and now even the inventor has admitted that it must be revamped with more emphasis on phonics. Thankfully, all the Catholic schools never deviated from the traditional curriculum of combining phonics with sight words. A whole generation or more have suffered from this ridiculous concept to teach kids how to read. It does not work for most.

Gifting this article for more context. https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/22/us/reading-teaching-curriculum-phonics.html?unlocked_article_code=sz0ljHdDVqrax6GhK3SxPg32sqkgwKIIkFqrFtitF1GjKOZo8abtr1bL_KXJIuJrLBWoC5N1cXudM3Cj67jwHp389H7mq_zalPkhzmqIlX943Psre0sfwcj8PzjWxp_jz-1ySWqClS4I5qkIfYfCUhn7nLP93FcGv7iroob2xVLZgHuWQBv3qhH4IRv1X-b3YvCUiXA2bZmTkohO84LEIjgUVUVWnEe_TorjK00nKZp3rihHicywgW0PsTois6mGcMok4ZQh9ikuurp4mkHsYF63ZFfhQrGlOXhRZ208s2NqrBRwmAGpVob9ktw6cnp__dLm_NwUgCOhHIQLgxoFdZWFxHOjYvfM&smid=share-url
Anonymous
Post 11/13/2022 19:28     Subject: This is a good argument for private - teaching reading
^^ Sorry, I meant in the early years. I think the private curriculums really take off from DCPS — especially in writing — around middle school.
Anonymous
Post 11/13/2022 19:28     Subject: This is a good argument for private - teaching reading
I think DCPSes actually push phonics/academics in general much harder than most privates. I’m not sure that’s actually a great thing, but my kids got absolutely drilled in a science of reading-based curriculum starting in PK3. The older two could both read at least somewhat (one well) in K (one started the year evaluated at C; the other at J).
Anonymous
Post 11/13/2022 18:50     Subject: Re:This is a good argument for private - teaching reading
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:MCPS hasn't taught phonics in over a decade....maybe more. They are just now trying to return to that method once they realized what a grave mistake it was. Luckily, I thought my kid phonics myself before I enrolled him.


+1 and oh what a disaster it was. Half of MCPS third graders don’t read at grade level. This is crucial time of the switch from learning to read to reading to learn. Thank you Messrs Weast, Starr, and Smith. For Madam McKnight, the jury is still out


MCPS isn't comparable to privates and many kids struggled for many years in MCPS. Privates can kick kids out who don't preform well so it gives a very skewed viewpoint. Kids need support at home. Phonics doesn't work for all kids.
Anonymous
Post 11/13/2022 18:11     Subject: This is a good argument for private - teaching reading
I teach AP statistics and the unit we are finishing up is all about designing good studies/experiments and drawing valid conclusions/generalizations.

Thank you for providing my warm up for tomorrow, lol. Plenty to pick apart in this post.
Anonymous
Post 11/13/2022 17:56     Subject: Re:This is a good argument for private - teaching reading
Anonymous wrote:MCPS hasn't taught phonics in over a decade....maybe more. They are just now trying to return to that method once they realized what a grave mistake it was. Luckily, I thought my kid phonics myself before I enrolled him.


+1 and oh what a disaster it was. Half of MCPS third graders don’t read at grade level. This is crucial time of the switch from learning to read to reading to learn. Thank you Messrs Weast, Starr, and Smith. For Madam McKnight, the jury is still out
Anonymous
Post 11/13/2022 17:44     Subject: Re:This is a good argument for private - teaching reading
Anonymous wrote:MCPS hasn't taught phonics in over a decade....maybe more. They are just now trying to return to that method once they realized what a grave mistake it was. Luckily, I thought my kid phonics myself before I enrolled him.


Same with our private, although the lack of thought into each students reading material in lower school still vastly disappoints. “Balanced literacy”
Anonymous
Post 11/13/2022 17:27     Subject: This is a good argument for private - teaching reading
OP you have no idea what you are talking about.

Anonymous
Post 11/13/2022 16:52     Subject: Re:This is a good argument for private - teaching reading
Dang! My 5th Grade DS can’t read and now I know why!
Anonymous
Post 11/13/2022 16:51     Subject: This is a good argument for private - teaching reading
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My child in private K went in knowing her ABCs and a handful of sight words and that’s it. She is now sounding out words well with a phonics-based approach and reading fairly well. My neighbor’s kid in public K who comes over a lot had about the same level of preparedness is not able to sound out words and kind of guesses. This child is not SN or anything, it’s quite possible they are naturally more intelligent than my child, but they are simply not being taught the right techniques.

I think many of the people who are happy with public are either putting in a lot of effort themselves at home or else sending to Kumon.


I have known families who were required to have their child repeat kindergarten when switching from public school to Catholic school because the kids were already lagging behind.


What kind of sh!tty school makes kids repeat KINDERGARTEN due to “lagging behind”? That says more about the receiving school than the original school.


I know families like us who ended up staying public wanting to switch to private but the privates couldn't keep up with our advanced kids. The math generally is much slower in middle school and most don't offer Algebra in 6th. We were in private for a few years, then public.

OP child is technically lagging behind as some parents and preschools work with their kids on reading and they are fully reading prior to K. Our preschool worked on academics starting at age 4.
Anonymous
Post 11/13/2022 13:57     Subject: Re:This is a good argument for private - teaching reading
This post is a good argument for why one personal anecdotal study about private school isn’t conclusive on a broader scale.
Anonymous
Post 11/13/2022 13:48     Subject: Re:This is a good argument for private - teaching reading
Listening to "Sold a Story" and seeing that MCPS has once again put out an RFP for reading programs for implementation next year are both certainly influencing my decision making regarding private school.
Anonymous
Post 11/13/2022 13:45     Subject: This is a good argument for private - teaching reading
There is a wide range of “normal” up until grade 3 or so, especially with reading. Just like there are a wide range of curriculums, schools, and teachers. You cannot generalize a huge category like “all public schools” based on a non representative sample of n=1.
Anonymous
Post 11/13/2022 13:40     Subject: This is a good argument for private - teaching reading
Phonics did not work for my kid who was reading by age three. Why did you not teach your child to read. They are behind depending on who you compare them to as well.