Anonymous
10/26/2022 11:45
Subject: Re:Admission for athletic recruits
It's kind of funny that people cite the athletics as the hook.
But, in reality, for kids that really, really want to play at a D1 top 20 school...his/her academic record/test scores are actually the hook to get on the team. They will be able to get on the team with lesser talent than a better player that doesn't have the grades/test scores.
But, in reality, for kids that really, really want to play at a D1 top 20 school...his/her academic record/test scores are actually the hook to get on the team. They will be able to get on the team with lesser talent than a better player that doesn't have the grades/test scores.
Anonymous
10/26/2022 11:42
Subject: Re:Admission for athletic recruits
SO--my Junior has been told (as have all the recruits) that for their sport (no Basketball or Football)---they have to have the credentials to be admitted on their own in order to be recruited. If they don't have the scores and grades, they can't fudge or push them through admissions. The Ivies definitely hold the athlete to the same standard as regular adminissions--but it is less a lottery for them with this hook. If there is an absolute superstar they might be able to get them in with slightly lower gpa/scores, but that is rare.
Anonymous
10/26/2022 11:33
Subject: Admission for athletic recruits
The NESCAC compromise a little, but not a lot and only if you are their top choices.
Anonymous
10/26/2022 11:28
Subject: Admission for athletic recruits
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Checkout this video at the seven minutes mark. He was the top three recruit, ranked #1 in the country at the age of eighteen. However, he couldn't get into Yale or UPenn due to his 1200 SAT score. Good enough to get into UVA. He left UVA after one year to go to UChicago.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Md_2xZ7YIqE&t=1620s
I guess Yale and UPenn do want athletes who also have high SAT scores. Very revealing.
I know multiple kids being recruited by CalTech this year. The coaches are very clear that athletics will do nothing for them in admissions but they want them on teams if they get through admissions.
One of these things is not like the other
Soccer, cross country. What’s interesting is that I also know kids being recruited at MIT and at MIT athletics does help significantly in admissions. But not at CalTech.
Anonymous
10/26/2022 11:20
Subject: Admission for athletic recruits
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Checkout this video at the seven minutes mark. He was the top three recruit, ranked #1 in the country at the age of eighteen. However, he couldn't get into Yale or UPenn due to his 1200 SAT score. Good enough to get into UVA. He left UVA after one year to go to UChicago.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Md_2xZ7YIqE&t=1620s
I guess Yale and UPenn do want athletes who also have high SAT scores. Very revealing.
I know multiple kids being recruited by CalTech this year. The coaches are very clear that athletics will do nothing for them in admissions but they want them on teams if they get through admissions.
In what sport - ping pong?
Anonymous
10/26/2022 11:18
Subject: Admission for athletic recruits
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Checkout this video at the seven minutes mark. He was the top three recruit, ranked #1 in the country at the age of eighteen. However, he couldn't get into Yale or UPenn due to his 1200 SAT score. Good enough to get into UVA. He left UVA after one year to go to UChicago.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Md_2xZ7YIqE&t=1620s
I guess Yale and UPenn do want athletes who also have high SAT scores. Very revealing.
It's for Tennis. See what would happen if the number 1 ranked mens basketball recruit wanted to attend Yale with a 1200 SAT
Anyone who thinks the Ivies don't compromise academics for sports is totally kidding themselves. My kid is a recruited athlete and we know for a fact that Harvard, Yale, etc. will dip way down academically if the kid is very good at their sport, even for non-revenue generating sports. But all of this is a moot point now because Ivies are test optional and the NCAA no longer has a minimum SAT score requirement. So I can guarantee you there are kids who couldn't even get close to a 1200 on their SAT who are at Ivies now and heading there in the future as long as test optional is in place.
In our experience, D3 schools--unlike Ivies-- actually care about academics w/ respect to athletes. While they may make slight compromises on standards, it's nothing like the Ivies. For example, there are plenty of kids in my kids' sport who announce at the beginning of their junior year that they are verbally committed to Harvard/Yale/Princeton. That means they are getting the nod from these schools based on 2 years of grades (freshman, sophomore) + test optional. Ivies are a total joke in this regard. For this and other reasons, the Ivies are no longer the premiere academic institutions in this country.
What sport ? It really varies
Most colleges want students to be successful. Being a student athlete in high school or at a DI program or a DIII program is very rigorous and time consuming. You're at a huge disadvantage. You have pressure in almost every aspect of your life. You need to get enough sleep, you need to eat well, you need to write papers and study for tests on buses. It's hard. That said, some teams have upperclassmen who provide players with the easiest classes and majors at the outset so students. It's like a cheat sheet. However, I only heard about it happening on the football team at my college and my team never had a cheat sheet. There are so many smart people who also happen to be good athletes. It's ridiculous to generalize or stereotype.
Anonymous
10/26/2022 11:14
Subject: Admission for athletic recruits
Anonymous wrote:Checkout this video at the seven minutes mark. He was the top three recruit, ranked #1 in the country at the age of eighteen. However, he couldn't get into Yale or UPenn due to his 1200 SAT score. Good enough to get into UVA. He left UVA after one year to go to UChicago.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Md_2xZ7YIqE&t=1620s
I guess Yale and UPenn do want athletes who also have high SAT scores. Very revealing.
I know multiple kids being recruited by CalTech this year. The coaches are very clear that athletics will do nothing for them in admissions but they want them on teams if they get through admissions.
Anonymous
10/26/2022 11:13
Subject: Admission for athletic recruits
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Checkout this video at the seven minutes mark. He was the top three recruit, ranked #1 in the country at the age of eighteen. However, he couldn't get into Yale or UPenn due to his 1200 SAT score. Good enough to get into UVA. He left UVA after one year to go to UChicago.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Md_2xZ7YIqE&t=1620s
I guess Yale and UPenn do want athletes who also have high SAT scores. Very revealing.
It's for Tennis. See what would happen if the number 1 ranked mens basketball recruit wanted to attend Yale with a 1200 SAT
Anyone who thinks the Ivies don't compromise academics for sports is totally kidding themselves. My kid is a recruited athlete and we know for a fact that Harvard, Yale, etc. will dip way down academically if the kid is very good at their sport, even for non-revenue generating sports. But all of this is a moot point now because Ivies are test optional and the NCAA no longer has a minimum SAT score requirement. So I can guarantee you there are kids who couldn't even get close to a 1200 on their SAT who are at Ivies now and heading there in the future as long as test optional is in place.
In our experience, D3 schools--unlike Ivies-- actually care about academics w/ respect to athletes. While they may make slight compromises on standards, it's nothing like the Ivies. For example, there are plenty of kids in my kids' sport who announce at the beginning of their junior year that they are verbally committed to Harvard/Yale/Princeton. That means they are getting the nod from these schools based on 2 years of grades (freshman, sophomore) + test optional. Ivies are a total joke in this regard. For this and other reasons, the Ivies are no longer the premiere academic institutions in this country.
The Ivies still require minimum test scores for athletic recruits as do most T30 schools.
Anonymous
10/26/2022 11:00
Subject: Admission for athletic recruits
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Checkout this video at the seven minutes mark. He was the top three recruit, ranked #1 in the country at the age of eighteen. However, he couldn't get into Yale or UPenn due to his 1200 SAT score. Good enough to get into UVA. He left UVA after one year to go to UChicago.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Md_2xZ7YIqE&t=1620s
I guess Yale and UPenn do want athletes who also have high SAT scores. Very revealing.
It's for Tennis. See what would happen if the number 1 ranked mens basketball recruit wanted to attend Yale with a 1200 SAT
Anyone who thinks the Ivies don't compromise academics for sports is totally kidding themselves. My kid is a recruited athlete and we know for a fact that Harvard, Yale, etc. will dip way down academically if the kid is very good at their sport, even for non-revenue generating sports. But all of this is a moot point now because Ivies are test optional and the NCAA no longer has a minimum SAT score requirement. So I can guarantee you there are kids who couldn't even get close to a 1200 on their SAT who are at Ivies now and heading there in the future as long as test optional is in place.
In our experience, D3 schools--unlike Ivies-- actually care about academics w/ respect to athletes. While they may make slight compromises on standards, it's nothing like the Ivies. For example, there are plenty of kids in my kids' sport who announce at the beginning of their junior year that they are verbally committed to Harvard/Yale/Princeton. That means they are getting the nod from these schools based on 2 years of grades (freshman, sophomore) + test optional. Ivies are a total joke in this regard. For this and other reasons, the Ivies are no longer the premiere academic institutions in this country.
Do you know what the Academic Index is and how it works?
I'm not PP, but could you explain it?
Anonymous
10/26/2022 10:58
Subject: Admission for athletic recruits
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Checkout this video at the seven minutes mark. He was the top three recruit, ranked #1 in the country at the age of eighteen. However, he couldn't get into Yale or UPenn due to his 1200 SAT score. Good enough to get into UVA. He left UVA after one year to go to UChicago.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Md_2xZ7YIqE&t=1620s
I guess Yale and UPenn do want athletes who also have high SAT scores. Very revealing.
It's for Tennis. See what would happen if the number 1 ranked mens basketball recruit wanted to attend Yale with a 1200 SAT
Anyone who thinks the Ivies don't compromise academics for sports is totally kidding themselves. My kid is a recruited athlete and we know for a fact that Harvard, Yale, etc. will dip way down academically if the kid is very good at their sport, even for non-revenue generating sports. But all of this is a moot point now because Ivies are test optional and the NCAA no longer has a minimum SAT score requirement. So I can guarantee you there are kids who couldn't even get close to a 1200 on their SAT who are at Ivies now and heading there in the future as long as test optional is in place.
In our experience, D3 schools--unlike Ivies-- actually care about academics w/ respect to athletes. While they may make slight compromises on standards, it's nothing like the Ivies. For example, there are plenty of kids in my kids' sport who announce at the beginning of their junior year that they are verbally committed to Harvard/Yale/Princeton. That means they are getting the nod from these schools based on 2 years of grades (freshman, sophomore) + test optional. Ivies are a total joke in this regard. For this and other reasons, the Ivies are no longer the premiere academic institutions in this country.
Do you know what the Academic Index is and how it works?
Anonymous
10/26/2022 10:44
Subject: Admission for athletic recruits
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If he played basketball, football or baseball he would have gotten in to Yale.
+100
+1000. I just clicked on the video and realized we are talking about a pickleball recruit. GTFO. Nobody cares about this sport.
OP must be a pickleball junkie. This is a chump sport
actually it is pretty fun but this dude is a meathead as are the guys in the video with him. Their scripted interview is awful.
Anonymous
10/26/2022 10:38
Subject: Admission for athletic recruits
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Checkout this video at the seven minutes mark. He was the top three recruit, ranked #1 in the country at the age of eighteen. However, he couldn't get into Yale or UPenn due to his 1200 SAT score. Good enough to get into UVA. He left UVA after one year to go to UChicago.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Md_2xZ7YIqE&t=1620s
I guess Yale and UPenn do want athletes who also have high SAT scores. Very revealing.
It's for Tennis. See what would happen if the number 1 ranked mens basketball recruit wanted to attend Yale with a 1200 SAT
Anyone who thinks the Ivies don't compromise academics for sports is totally kidding themselves. My kid is a recruited athlete and we know for a fact that Harvard, Yale, etc. will dip way down academically if the kid is very good at their sport, even for non-revenue generating sports. But all of this is a moot point now because Ivies are test optional and the NCAA no longer has a minimum SAT score requirement. So I can guarantee you there are kids who couldn't even get close to a 1200 on their SAT who are at Ivies now and heading there in the future as long as test optional is in place.
In our experience, D3 schools--unlike Ivies-- actually care about academics w/ respect to athletes. While they may make slight compromises on standards, it's nothing like the Ivies. For example, there are plenty of kids in my kids' sport who announce at the beginning of their junior year that they are verbally committed to Harvard/Yale/Princeton. That means they are getting the nod from these schools based on 2 years of grades (freshman, sophomore) + test optional. Ivies are a total joke in this regard. For this and other reasons, the Ivies are no longer the premiere academic institutions in this country.
Anonymous
10/26/2022 10:11
Subject: Admission for athletic recruits
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If he played basketball, football or baseball he would have gotten in to Yale.
+100
+1000. I just clicked on the video and realized we are talking about a pickleball recruit. GTFO. Nobody cares about this sport.
Anonymous
10/26/2022 10:08
Subject: Admission for athletic recruits
Anonymous wrote:Checkout this video at the seven minutes mark. He was the top three recruit, ranked #1 in the country at the age of eighteen. However, he couldn't get into Yale or UPenn due to his 1200 SAT score. Good enough to get into UVA. He left UVA after one year to go to UChicago.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Md_2xZ7YIqE&t=1620s
I guess Yale and UPenn do want athletes who also have high SAT scores. Very revealing.
It's for Tennis. See what would happen if the number 1 ranked mens basketball recruit wanted to attend Yale with a 1200 SAT
Anonymous
10/26/2022 10:06
Subject: Admission for athletic recruits
Anonymous wrote:If he played basketball, football or baseball he would have gotten in to Yale.
+100