Anonymous
10/21/2022 13:26
Subject: Virginia couple sued by Afghan refugees of crazy scheme to kidnap their baby
Anonymous wrote:Since the baby is a girl, I hope she gets to stay with the American couple. Her life will be crap otherwise.
This is pure WASP elitism and xenophobia.
-nonwhite person who taught Sunday school in a Protestant church
Anonymous
10/21/2022 13:24
Subject: Virginia couple sued by Afghan refugees of crazy scheme to kidnap their baby
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I hope they get prosecuted for human trafficking.
This is not human trafficking. Using the wrong words just makes people ignore both issues.
That is exactly what it is. You can't pay to fly someone out on a pretense and steal the baby they are the guardian of. How would you like it if I met you in NYC and did the same?
If you really understood the horrors of human trafficking, you wouldn't be making these comparisons. Kidnapping maybe, but not human trafficking.
How is it not human trafficking?
DP.. imo, this is government sanctioned kidnapping by our government.
Anonymous
10/21/2022 13:14
Subject: Virginia couple sued by Afghan refugees of crazy scheme to kidnap their baby
This case also involves on the defendant side: Women for Afghan Women/ Virginia Community Center in Alexandria and its general counsel Kimberly Motley who tracked down the guardians/cousins in Afghanistan, and lied to them that the Masts were trying to help them get medical treatment for the baby. The Masts had never even met the baby before it came to the US. This story is absolutely nuts.
Kimberly Motley, Joshua Mast and his brother all need to lose their law licenses.
Kimberly Motley, Joshua Mast and his brother all need to lose their law licenses.
Anonymous
10/21/2022 13:08
Subject: Virginia couple sued by Afghan refugees of crazy scheme to kidnap their baby
The US (and other countries) have a pretty narrow definition of human trafficking either labor or sexual exploitation). Maybe this afghan couple is being used a test case to try and expand that law. I wonder if this case could fall under migrant smuggling. It also may just be plain old fashioned kidnapping.
Anonymous
10/21/2022 13:05
Subject: Virginia couple sued by Afghan refugees of crazy scheme to kidnap their baby
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I hope they get prosecuted for human trafficking.
This is not human trafficking. Using the wrong words just makes people ignore both issues.
That is exactly what it is. You can't pay to fly someone out on a pretense and steal the baby they are the guardian of. How would you like it if I met you in NYC and did the same?
If you really understood the horrors of human trafficking, you wouldn't be making these comparisons. Kidnapping maybe, but not human trafficking.
How is it not human trafficking?
Anonymous
10/21/2022 12:51
Subject: Virginia couple sued by Afghan refugees of crazy scheme to kidnap their baby
Here is the original complaint which is a fascinating read: The Masts lied to the Virginia court system and tried immediately to get custody after Joshua Mast found out the baby was in the hospital. This isn't a case of a soldier trying to adopt the baby he himself rescued from the rubble. The marine literally was a lawyer in an office over there. He had access to the database about civilian casualties and injuries and saw the baby listed on there. Sickening.
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/23132333-doe-v-mast-complaint-9222
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/23132333-doe-v-mast-complaint-9222
Anonymous
10/21/2022 12:47
Subject: Virginia couple sued by Afghan refugees of crazy scheme to kidnap their baby
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I hope they get prosecuted for human trafficking.
This is not human trafficking. Using the wrong words just makes people ignore both issues.
That is exactly what it is. You can't pay to fly someone out on a pretense and steal the baby they are the guardian of. How would you like it if I met you in NYC and did the same?
If you really understood the horrors of human trafficking, you wouldn't be making these comparisons. Kidnapping maybe, but not human trafficking.
How is it not human trafficking?
Anonymous
10/21/2022 12:45
Subject: Virginia couple sued by Afghan refugees of crazy scheme to kidnap their baby
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I hope they get prosecuted for human trafficking.
This is not human trafficking. Using the wrong words just makes people ignore both issues.
That is exactly what it is. You can't pay to fly someone out on a pretense and steal the baby they are the guardian of. How would you like it if I met you in NYC and did the same?
If you really understood the horrors of human trafficking, you wouldn't be making these comparisons. Kidnapping maybe, but not human trafficking.
This is literally the definition of human trafficking. And it’s plenty horrific.
Do you have some narrower definition that only involved sexual exploitation? If so, educate yourself.
NP. How old are you? 14-19 yr old female, right?
This isn’t trafficking. It’s bad, yes, but has nothing to do with trafficking.
And yes, the international definition of human trafficking is limited to exploration of the human for a very limited range of purposes.
Educate yourself.
Anonymous
10/21/2022 12:36
Subject: Virginia couple sued by Afghan refugees of crazy scheme to kidnap their baby
Anonymous wrote:Since the baby is a girl, I hope she gets to stay with the American couple. Her life will be crap otherwise.
Do you know any Afghani families? I do, with daughters, and they are happy, healthy and well loved. I know ones that came recently as well as ones that have been here 10+ years. You are a bigot.
Anonymous
10/21/2022 12:19
Subject: Virginia couple sued by Afghan refugees of crazy scheme to kidnap their baby
Anonymous wrote:Since the baby is a girl, I hope she gets to stay with the American couple. Her life will be crap otherwise.
These people are Duggars in Virginia. These Americans don't educate their daughters, use them as household chattel, guard their purity with hateful rhetoric, are obsessed with religious idolatry, and marry them off as teenagers at 19.
Sound familiar?
Anonymous
10/21/2022 12:15
Subject: Virginia couple sued by Afghan refugees of crazy scheme to kidnap their baby
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This story makes me very sad for the child. I know the Masts think they are doing the right thing, but I hope the courts get it straightened out and return the child to the relatives.
I’m sure the Masts believe they are, because they’re white, American, evangelical Christians who have claimed that the baby would be in inherent danger to be raised by Muslim Afghani relatives who would likely make her “a child soldier or sex slave”. The xenophobia, among other things, is incredible.
+1 I grew up in the church, and so many of them think that their way is the right and only way. It's truly frightening.
Anonymous
10/21/2022 12:14
Subject: Virginia couple sued by Afghan refugees of crazy scheme to kidnap their baby
Anonymous wrote:Since the baby is a girl, I hope she gets to stay with the American couple. Her life will be crap otherwise.
Because being raised by right-wing, uber conservative, evangelical Christians, who went to Liberty for undergrad and for law school, who claim all muslims are terrorists and think all afghanis raise their daughters to be either 1) suicide bombers, 2) child soldiers or 3) sex slaves is better. Versus being raised by your cousin and his wife, in America, surrounded by your culture, language, family.
GTFOH with your bigotry.
Anonymous
10/21/2022 12:11
Subject: Virginia couple sued by Afghan refugees of crazy scheme to kidnap their baby
Is this what the Bible teaches?
Anonymous
10/21/2022 11:52
Subject: Virginia couple sued by Afghan refugees of crazy scheme to kidnap their baby
There's a direct line between this kind of behaviour, overturning Roe, and trying to dismantle ICWA.
In each case you have white Evangelicals trying to increase the supply of "adoptable" infants in order to feed their dominionist fantasies.
In each case you have white Evangelicals trying to increase the supply of "adoptable" infants in order to feed their dominionist fantasies.
Anonymous
10/21/2022 11:48
Subject: Virginia couple sued by Afghan refugees of crazy scheme to kidnap their baby
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I hope they get prosecuted for human trafficking.
This is not human trafficking. Using the wrong words just makes people ignore both issues.
That is exactly what it is. You can't pay to fly someone out on a pretense and steal the baby they are the guardian of. How would you like it if I met you in NYC and did the same?
If you really understood the horrors of human trafficking, you wouldn't be making these comparisons. Kidnapping maybe, but not human trafficking.
This is literally the definition of human trafficking. And it’s plenty horrific.
Do you have some narrower definition that only involved sexual exploitation? If so, educate yourself.