I waited tables in NYC during college at high-end restaurants and now I’m in management at the Fed Board.

Cornell Hospitality School literally runs the NYC restaurant and hotel industries. So many Ivy Leaguers running bars that make huge $$$$. Even a small coffee shop that’s busy can gross $50-60K per month in Manhattan. We are talking big money here.

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Anonymous wrote:Carrie and Big's romance has always been a mystery to me. It didn't feel authentic back then, it didn't feel authentic 3 movies and a marriage later. Her decision to stay with Big will always stick out as the epitome of foolishness.

That he was even interested in her seemed inauthentic to me. Interested in a fling, sure. But the rest of it was just stupid.

Yes!

Big was trash. He couldn’t have cared less about Carrie or her interests, but he shoved his down her throat (remember the diamond duck clutch, or whatever it was that his cohorts’ wives carried that he insisted she have, too? Just one example.)

Aidan seemed to truly care about her. He invited her into his life and made an effort. He opened a bar with her best friend’s husband! He was mid-complete renovation on her apartment (in which he purchased for THEM!) He refinished her floors while she cheated on him! He seemed truly interested in her life (“Where you been? Who’d you see?”)

I take it back. Carrie is trash too. They deserved each other.

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Steve was a totally different person! He was reading HEMINGWAY when he and Miranda met. He was complaining about the NYU kids wanting to talk about (I can't remember what, I'm sick, some philosopher or indie band). Why did they Flanderize him? Is that a statement about how we lose ourselves when we get older - or did they just forget he's not an idiot? (See also: Dean on GG.)

It's been like 20 years since I was into it but wasn't Steve a bartender and lived in squalor? Bartenders are generally all unmotivated dummies who quit college. The mere act of pissing adulthood away at a dead-end servant job with no health insurance and no retirement proves you're an idiot. Pretending Steve's some erudite bartender because he had a book in his hand is pretty cringe.

This a hot take.

I graduated from an Ivy, where I actually learned to bartend with their catering service, and bartended the two years between college and graduate school. Made really good money, had a ton of fun living in NYC. Then I went back to school.

Now I am your typical UMC suburban mom with a mortgage, husband of 20 years and 2.2. kids . . . .

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Steve was a totally different person! He was reading HEMINGWAY when he and Miranda met. He was complaining about the NYU kids wanting to talk about (I can't remember what, I'm sick, some philosopher or indie band). Why did they Flanderize him? Is that a statement about how we lose ourselves when we get older - or did they just forget he's not an idiot? (See also: Dean on GG.)

It's been like 20 years since I was into it but wasn't Steve a bartender and lived in squalor? Bartenders are generally all unmotivated dummies who quit college. The mere act of pissing adulthood away at a dead-end servant job with no health insurance and no retirement proves you're an idiot. Pretending Steve's some erudite bartender because he had a book in his hand is pretty cringe.

This is so stupid, but I’ll reply anyway. I worked in the restaurant business in NYC when the show was in its heyday and I knew lots of very well-educated bartenders. One restaurant group I worked for had a corporate beverage department staffed by a bunch of Cornell grads who had all previously worked as bartenders. I’m sure this is just as true today as it was then, perhaps even more so, as artisanal cocktails and mixology have become such a thing.

This! I waited tables when I was at NYU and worked with a guy who was bartending while he was at Juilliard. He’s pretty famous now.

Chiming in to say I"m not famous, but bartended in college and grad school. I have a BS in Math and Aerospace Engineering, a Masters in Electrical Engineering, and an exec position with a large company. (Home with a kid today and taking a break from emails). I'm not exactly an unmotivated dummy, then or now.

I’m the PP you quoted. It’s hard f’ing work! Especially in NYC where rent is ridiculous and you basically sell your soul to pay for things. I was making peanuts and also had another part-time job (so did Juilliard!) just to survive. Definitely wasn’t lazy or stupid.

DP. Not to mention, an important job. I truly appreciate a great bartender.

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Steve was a totally different person! He was reading HEMINGWAY when he and Miranda met. He was complaining about the NYU kids wanting to talk about (I can't remember what, I'm sick, some philosopher or indie band). Why did they Flanderize him? Is that a statement about how we lose ourselves when we get older - or did they just forget he's not an idiot? (See also: Dean on GG.)

It's been like 20 years since I was into it but wasn't Steve a bartender and lived in squalor? Bartenders are generally all unmotivated dummies who quit college. The mere act of pissing adulthood away at a dead-end servant job with no health insurance and no retirement proves you're an idiot. Pretending Steve's some erudite bartender because he had a book in his hand is pretty cringe.

This is so stupid, but I’ll reply anyway. I worked in the restaurant business in NYC when the show was in its heyday and I knew lots of very well-educated bartenders. One restaurant group I worked for had a corporate beverage department staffed by a bunch of Cornell grads who had all previously worked as bartenders. I’m sure this is just as true today as it was then, perhaps even more so, as artisanal cocktails and mixology have become such a thing.

This! I waited tables when I was at NYU and worked with a guy who was bartending while he was at Juilliard. He’s pretty famous now.

Chiming in to say I"m not famous, but bartended in college and grad school. I have a BS in Math and Aerospace Engineering, a Masters in Electrical Engineering, and an exec position with a large company. (Home with a kid today and taking a break from emails). I'm not exactly an unmotivated dummy, then or now.

I’m the PP you quoted. It’s hard f’ing work! Especially in NYC where rent is ridiculous and you basically sell your soul to pay for things. I was making peanuts and also had another part-time job (so did Juilliard!) just to survive. Definitely wasn’t lazy or stupid.

Anonymous wrote:Carrie and Big's romance has always been a mystery to me. It didn't feel authentic back then, it didn't feel authentic 3 movies and a marriage later. Her decision to stay with Big will always stick out as the epitome of foolishness.

That he was even interested in her seemed inauthentic to me. Interested in a fling, sure. But the rest of it was just stupid.

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Steve was a totally different person! He was reading HEMINGWAY when he and Miranda met. He was complaining about the NYU kids wanting to talk about (I can't remember what, I'm sick, some philosopher or indie band). Why did they Flanderize him? Is that a statement about how we lose ourselves when we get older - or did they just forget he's not an idiot? (See also: Dean on GG.)

It's been like 20 years since I was into it but wasn't Steve a bartender and lived in squalor? Bartenders are generally all unmotivated dummies who quit college. The mere act of pissing adulthood away at a dead-end servant job with no health insurance and no retirement proves you're an idiot. Pretending Steve's some erudite bartender because he had a book in his hand is pretty cringe.

This is so stupid, but I’ll reply anyway. I worked in the restaurant business in NYC when the show was in its heyday and I knew lots of very well-educated bartenders. One restaurant group I worked for had a corporate beverage department staffed by a bunch of Cornell grads who had all previously worked as bartenders. I’m sure this is just as true today as it was then, perhaps even more so, as artisanal cocktails and mixology have become such a thing.

This! I waited tables when I was at NYU and worked with a guy who was bartending while he was at Juilliard. He’s pretty famous now.

Chiming in to say I"m not famous, but bartended in college and grad school. I have a BS in Math and Aerospace Engineering, a Masters in Electrical Engineering, and an exec position with a large company. (Home with a kid today and taking a break from emails). I'm not exactly an unmotivated dummy, then or now.

Smartphones have been the downfall of society. They’ve made all of us humans dumber.

Life was so much better in the before times!

Anonymous wrote:Carrie and Big's romance has always been a mystery to me. It didn't feel authentic back then, it didn't feel authentic 3 movies and a marriage later. Her decision to stay with Big will always stick out as the epitome of foolishness.

I could never understand why she was so afraid of her relationship with Aidan. I don’t know if he was the perfect man for her, but he was sure a better match than Big!

I have a friend who was dating a man like Aidan, and she pulled a Carrie and had to split. I think it’s deep rooted insecurity. Carrie too always seemed to toe the line of insecurity, even though she was so bold and eccentric on the outside.

This show is the worst. Glamorized sleeping around and spending 394873829293 dollars on shoes. Everyone moved to NYC to live like that and then when they got there realized how inauthentic it was. Now all those women are in their 40s and 50s childless and unhappy but boozing it up at brunch looking for their Mr big. But will never find him bc he's marrying a 20 year old and having babies.

Anonymous wrote:Carrie and Big's romance has always been a mystery to me. It didn't feel authentic back then, it didn't feel authentic 3 movies and a marriage later. Her decision to stay with Big will always stick out as the epitome of foolishness.

Yeah, I think that's why I could never get into the show when I my friends loved it. He never made sense and their power dynamic was so uneven.

Carrie and Big's romance has always been a mystery to me. It didn't feel authentic back then, it didn't feel authentic 3 movies and a marriage later. Her decision to stay with Big will always stick out as the epitome of foolishness.

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Anonymous wrote:

Steve was a totally different person! He was reading HEMINGWAY when he and Miranda met. He was complaining about the NYU kids wanting to talk about (I can't remember what, I'm sick, some philosopher or indie band). Why did they Flanderize him? Is that a statement about how we lose ourselves when we get older - or did they just forget he's not an idiot? (See also: Dean on GG.)

It's been like 20 years since I was into it but wasn't Steve a bartender and lived in squalor? Bartenders are generally all unmotivated dummies who quit college. The mere act of pissing adulthood away at a dead-end servant job with no health insurance and no retirement proves you're an idiot. Pretending Steve's some erudite bartender because he had a book in his hand is pretty cringe.

This is so stupid, but I’ll reply anyway. I worked in the restaurant business in NYC when the show was in its heyday and I knew lots of very well-educated bartenders. One restaurant group I worked for had a corporate beverage department staffed by a bunch of Cornell grads who had all previously worked as bartenders. I’m sure this is just as true today as it was then, perhaps even more so, as artisanal cocktails and mixology have become such a thing.

This! I waited tables when I was at NYU and worked with a guy who was bartending while he was at Juilliard. He’s pretty famous now.

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Steve was a totally different person! He was reading HEMINGWAY when he and Miranda met. He was complaining about the NYU kids wanting to talk about (I can't remember what, I'm sick, some philosopher or indie band). Why did they Flanderize him? Is that a statement about how we lose ourselves when we get older - or did they just forget he's not an idiot? (See also: Dean on GG.)

It's been like 20 years since I was into it but wasn't Steve a bartender and lived in squalor? Bartenders are generally all unmotivated dummies who quit college. The mere act of pissing adulthood away at a dead-end servant job with no health insurance and no retirement proves you're an idiot. Pretending Steve's some erudite bartender because he had a book in his hand is pretty cringe.

This is so stupid, but I’ll reply anyway. I worked in the restaurant business in NYC when the show was in its heyday and I knew lots of very well-educated bartenders. One restaurant group I worked for had a corporate beverage department staffed by a bunch of Cornell grads who had all previously worked as bartenders. I’m sure this is just as true today as it was then, perhaps even more so, as artisanal cocktails and mixology have become such a thing.

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Anonymous wrote:IMHO, the first season was the best. It was set up as a sort-of anthropomorphic look at dating in NYC. It was fun and fresh and really funny "I don't want to be the ___ girl! I went to Smith!). Then it got all soap-opery and people took it way to seriously.

You don’t know what anthropomorphic means. It’s attributing human traits to an animal.

PP clearly meant anthropological, annoying eyeroll poster.