Anonymous
Post 10/17/2022 12:01     Subject: S/O: Which schools don’t want scores below their 50th%?
Because the school has to report the scores of the entering class the next year. The school wants to move UP the ranks, not down. Ergo, it wants kids with high scores and high GPA.
Anonymous
Post 10/16/2022 23:10     Subject: Re:S/O: Which schools don’t want scores below their 50th%?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It isn’t that there is no consequences for not submitting. If you don’t submit, all other elements of your application get more scrutiny. Personally I would submit anything over a 1400 everywhere.


I’ve heard counselors say that this is not true. If the school’s average is 1450 or 1500, do not submit a 1400. Full stop.


It is true, and what I’ve been told by our counselor.
Anonymous
Post 10/16/2022 23:07     Subject: Re:S/O: Which schools don’t want scores below their 50th%?
Depending on what she wants out of college and whether/how far she's willing to go away, I'd think she'd have a decent shot at places like Iowa or Iowa State, which offer great education programs and the classic "big school" experience (true of VT as well).
Why would this family pay out of state tuition? I would not have submitted that SAT score, but suspect PP's DD will be admitted somewhere in state and do just fine.
Anonymous
Post 10/16/2022 23:03     Subject: S/O: Which schools don’t want scores below their 50th%?
Anonymous wrote:You people are all giving me heartburn. My average kid (3.4 GPA, 6 APs), is sharing her test scores with all the schools she is applying to, which is 1120 on the SAT, plus two AP scores (one 3, one 4). Her counselor said it was the right call. She's applying mostly to schools with 70% admit rates or higher -- JMU, VCU, Mason, Mary Washington, but in most of those places, her scores place her around 25%. Our thinking was that since her grades are also not amazing, the combination together tells schools that's college ready if not a stellar student. She's applying to 9 schools, two of which she has no chance at (William & Mary and Va Tech), but the other 7 are like what I mentioned above.

I think her essay will be decent -- I've not read it, and she's not an amazing writer, but she's working with an essay coach and is on draft 4-5. She wants to major in education. Basically, this is a kid who is college ready, and I feel like should be able to get into a state university.

She's white and we are full-pay. We already submitted the scores, so there's no going back now, but someone tell me what the odds are that she will get in to one of those 7 places?

She'll get in somewhere. Maybe even VT as an education major. Depending on what she wants out of college and whether/how far she's willing to go away, I'd think she'd have a decent shot at places like Iowa or Iowa State, which offer great education programs and the classic "big school" experience (true of VT as well).
Anonymous
Post 10/16/2022 21:25     Subject: S/O: Which schools don’t want scores below their 50th%?
You people are all giving me heartburn. My average kid (3.4 GPA, 6 APs), is sharing her test scores with all the schools she is applying to, which is 1120 on the SAT, plus two AP scores (one 3, one 4). Her counselor said it was the right call. She's applying mostly to schools with 70% admit rates or higher -- JMU, VCU, Mason, Mary Washington, but in most of those places, her scores place her around 25%. Our thinking was that since her grades are also not amazing, the combination together tells schools that's college ready if not a stellar student. She's applying to 9 schools, two of which she has no chance at (William & Mary and Va Tech), but the other 7 are like what I mentioned above.

I think her essay will be decent -- I've not read it, and she's not an amazing writer, but she's working with an essay coach and is on draft 4-5. She wants to major in education. Basically, this is a kid who is college ready, and I feel like should be able to get into a state university.

She's white and we are full-pay. We already submitted the scores, so there's no going back now, but someone tell me what the odds are that she will get in to one of those 7 places?
Anonymous
Post 10/16/2022 21:04     Subject: Re:S/O: Which schools don’t want scores below their 50th%?
Anonymous wrote:It isn’t that there is no consequences for not submitting. If you don’t submit, all other elements of your application get more scrutiny. Personally I would submit anything over a 1400 everywhere.


I’ve heard counselors say that this is not true. If the school’s average is 1450 or 1500, do not submit a 1400. Full stop.
Anonymous
Post 10/16/2022 20:40     Subject: Re:S/O: Which schools don’t want scores below their 50th%?
It isn’t that there is no consequences for not submitting. If you don’t submit, all other elements of your application get more scrutiny. Personally I would submit anything over a 1400 everywhere.
Anonymous
Post 10/16/2022 20:35     Subject: S/O: Which schools don’t want scores below their 50th%?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If you heard this from the college itself (eg an AO or at info session), please name the school. It would be helpful to know where to truly go TO. Thanks!


Northeastern


Of course,, the other school that is always trying to gin it’s stats.
Anonymous
Post 10/16/2022 20:02     Subject: S/O: Which schools don’t want scores below their 50th%?
A lot of the AOs say to submit if it helps and not to submit if it doesn’t. Probably doesn’t help if it’s in the bottom 50%.

I heard a rule of thumb. Always submit if both sections of SAT start with 7 and submit ACT if all sections start with 3. This is regardless of school averages.
Anonymous
Post 10/16/2022 19:55     Subject: Re:S/O: Which schools don’t want scores below their 50th%?
Fordham recommends only submitted if at or above 50%
Anonymous
Post 10/16/2022 17:10     Subject: S/O: Which schools don’t want scores below their 50th%?
Anonymous wrote:If you heard this from the college itself (eg an AO or at info session), please name the school. It would be helpful to know where to truly go TO. Thanks!


Northeastern
Anonymous
Post 10/16/2022 15:13     Subject: S/O: Which schools don’t want scores below their 50th%?
Anonymous wrote:I’ll name a specific school: UMiami. Maybe not where your kid wants to go, but mine does and they specifically said that. Several others on my DC’s list said the same. I won’t name them because I’m sure DCUM will not approve


That makes sense, Miami, like Tulane, is a school trying to game the rankings.
Anonymous
Post 10/16/2022 13:22     Subject: S/O: Which schools don’t want scores below their 50th%?
Anonymous wrote:I’ll name a specific school: UMiami. Maybe not where your kid wants to go, but mine does and they specifically said that. Several others on my DC’s list said the same. I won’t name them because I’m sure DCUM will not approve


OP here. I’m interested. My kid isn’t applying to the Ivy League. UMiami is a great school and we’re still talking about incredibly bright kids.
Anonymous
Post 10/16/2022 12:46     Subject: S/O: Which schools don’t want scores below their 50th%?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Colgate said submit scores if they are in the 25% or better. That was within the last two weeks.


Omg, bonkers. Every school will have like a 34 average ACT with 30% of students submitting scores.


Not the top 25%. 25th percentile. Meaning, better than 24 percent.
Anonymous
Post 10/16/2022 12:30     Subject: S/O: Which schools don’t want scores below their 50th%?
Anonymous wrote:Notice how no one can actually name a school. If you are unhooked, you need a score unless you are applying to a school where your grades are above their 95th percentile.


Where did you hear this?