Anonymous
10/15/2022 08:48
Subject: Stanford apologizes for limiting Jewish students in 1950s
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Purposefully keeping people of one religion out because you don't like them is very different than keeping racial balances even in your cohort to better achieve your mission. To insinuate that they are the same is ignorant and insulting.
One is done specifically, to a specific group (Jewish is not a race, BTW) and one is going to naturally seem like a disadvantage to whichever race is over-represented in the applicant pool and seem like a benefit to whichever race is under-represented.
If any one race stopped applying to Stanford, their admissions rate would shoot up. If another race applied in much larger numbers, their rate would drop. Regardless of what race it is. Is that racism then?
Under-represented is the key. For any race, at any school where they are under-represented that seeks balance in their admissions policies.
I understand it seems unfair - this whole process is unfair in a lot of ways - but the alternative is worse.
Wow, way to miss the point entirely. I don’t know about Stanford but have you read the Harvard materials? They viewed Asian American students as robots without personality as a rule and gave them low points on personality, not because of anything shown in an individual’s application but because they were Asian American.
I find the discrimination against both Jews and Asians to be problematic.
Anonymous
10/15/2022 08:42
Subject: Stanford apologizes for limiting Jewish students in 1950s
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:https://apnews.com/article/education-stanford-university-bce7f81c2d8f953ac18f034401546f2e
Schools are still limiting Asian sutdents today.
Apology to Asian Americans coming in 2090.
Some Jewish people will have to do some apologizing too, hopefully before then.
LOL I clicked to say exactly that. When is the apology to asians coming
For what? For not having 100% Asian population because they could if they just looked at stats?
Asians outperform most of other applicants on ECs, essays, LoRs, leadership skills, research awards etc. Asian do not excel only with gpas or SATs.
+1 people keep searching for some angle that would make Asian applicants less-than and keep turning up empty. SMH.
Anonymous
10/15/2022 08:35
Subject: Stanford apologizes for limiting Jewish students in 1950s
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:https://apnews.com/article/education-stanford-university-bce7f81c2d8f953ac18f034401546f2e
Schools are still limiting Asian sutdents today.
Apology to Asian Americans coming in 2090.
Some Jewish people will have to do some apologizing too, hopefully before then.
LOL I clicked to say exactly that. When is the apology to asians coming
For what? For not having 100% Asian population because they could if they just looked at stats?
Asians outperform most of other applicants on ECs, essays, LoRs, leadership skills, research awards etc. Asian do not excel only with gpas or SATs.
Anonymous
10/15/2022 08:19
Subject: Stanford apologizes for limiting Jewish students in 1950s
Anonymous wrote:Purposefully keeping people of one religion out because you don't like them is very different than keeping racial balances even in your cohort to better achieve your mission. To insinuate that they are the same is ignorant and insulting.
One is done specifically, to a specific group (Jewish is not a race, BTW) and one is going to naturally seem like a disadvantage to whichever race is over-represented in the applicant pool and seem like a benefit to whichever race is under-represented.
If any one race stopped applying to Stanford, their admissions rate would shoot up. If another race applied in much larger numbers, their rate would drop. Regardless of what race it is. Is that racism then?
Under-represented is the key. For any race, at any school where they are under-represented that seeks balance in their admissions policies.
I understand it seems unfair - this whole process is unfair in a lot of ways - but the alternative is worse.
Wow, way to miss the point entirely. I don’t know about Stanford but have you read the Harvard materials? They viewed Asian American students as robots without personality as a rule and gave them low points on personality, not because of anything shown in an individual’s application but because they were Asian American.
Anonymous
10/15/2022 08:14
Subject: Re:Stanford apologizes for limiting Jewish students in 1950s
Anonymous wrote:I’m Irish-Italian. My great-grandparents and grandparents were immigrants in the Irish slums and Italian ghettos —when do we get an apology? They faced severe discrimination “Irish need not apply” here in the US.
Stop embarrassing yourself!
Anonymous
10/15/2022 08:12
Subject: Stanford apologizes for limiting Jewish students in 1950s
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:https://apnews.com/article/education-stanford-university-bce7f81c2d8f953ac18f034401546f2e
Schools are still limiting Asian sutdents today.
Apology to Asian Americans coming in 2090.
Some Jewish people will have to do some apologizing too, hopefully before then.
for what?
Limiting and discrimination
Damn
Anonymous
10/15/2022 08:10
Subject: Stanford apologizes for limiting Jewish students in 1950s
Anonymous wrote:Purposefully keeping people of one religion out because you don't like them is very different than keeping racial balances even in your cohort to better achieve your mission. To insinuate that they are the same is ignorant and insulting.
One is done specifically, to a specific group (Jewish is not a race, BTW) and one is going to naturally seem like a disadvantage to whichever race is over-represented in the applicant pool and seem like a benefit to whichever race is under-represented.
If any one race stopped applying to Stanford, their admissions rate would shoot up. If another race applied in much larger numbers, their rate would drop. Regardless of what race it is. Is that racism then?
Under-represented is the key. For any race, at any school where they are under-represented that seeks balance in their admissions policies.
I understand it seems unfair - this whole process is unfair in a lot of ways - but the alternative is worse.
+1
Any attempt to make it fair seems unfair to some.
Anonymous
10/15/2022 07:37
Subject: Re:Stanford apologizes for limiting Jewish students in 1950s
Anonymous wrote:I’m Irish-Italian. My great-grandparents and grandparents were immigrants in the Irish slums and Italian ghettos —when do we get an apology? They faced severe discrimination “Irish need not apply” here in the US.
Just pure ignorance PP. Damn.
Anonymous
10/15/2022 06:33
Subject: Re:Stanford apologizes for limiting Jewish students in 1950s
Anonymous wrote:I’m Irish-Italian. My great-grandparents and grandparents were immigrants in the Irish slums and Italian ghettos —when do we get an apology? They faced severe discrimination “Irish need not apply” here in the US.
I’m always puzzled when intelligent people cite this argument. The acculturation process for immigrants from most countries in Europe, excluding Jews, was extremely different from others. Like one generation versus generations of systemic barriers.
Anonymous
10/15/2022 06:17
Subject: Stanford apologizes for limiting Jewish students in 1950s
Purposefully keeping people of one religion out because you don't like them is very different than keeping racial balances even in your cohort to better achieve your mission. To insinuate that they are the same is ignorant and insulting.
One is done specifically, to a specific group (Jewish is not a race, BTW) and one is going to naturally seem like a disadvantage to whichever race is over-represented in the applicant pool and seem like a benefit to whichever race is under-represented.
If any one race stopped applying to Stanford, their admissions rate would shoot up. If another race applied in much larger numbers, their rate would drop. Regardless of what race it is. Is that racism then?
Under-represented is the key. For any race, at any school where they are under-represented that seeks balance in their admissions policies.
I understand it seems unfair - this whole process is unfair in a lot of ways - but the alternative is worse.
One is done specifically, to a specific group (Jewish is not a race, BTW) and one is going to naturally seem like a disadvantage to whichever race is over-represented in the applicant pool and seem like a benefit to whichever race is under-represented.
If any one race stopped applying to Stanford, their admissions rate would shoot up. If another race applied in much larger numbers, their rate would drop. Regardless of what race it is. Is that racism then?
Under-represented is the key. For any race, at any school where they are under-represented that seeks balance in their admissions policies.
I understand it seems unfair - this whole process is unfair in a lot of ways - but the alternative is worse.
Anonymous
10/15/2022 05:44
Subject: Stanford apologizes for limiting Jewish students in 1950s
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:https://apnews.com/article/education-stanford-university-bce7f81c2d8f953ac18f034401546f2e
Schools are still limiting Asian sutdents today.
Apology to Asian Americans coming in 2090.
Some Jewish people will have to do some apologizing too, hopefully before then.
LOL I clicked to say exactly that. When is the apology to asians coming
Well, I mean, that was the unspoken point of posting this thread, right?
Anonymous
10/15/2022 00:18
Subject: Re:Stanford apologizes for limiting Jewish students in 1950s
I’m Irish-Italian. My great-grandparents and grandparents were immigrants in the Irish slums and Italian ghettos —when do we get an apology? They faced severe discrimination “Irish need not apply” here in the US.
Anonymous
10/14/2022 23:41
Subject: Stanford apologizes for limiting Jewish students in 1950s
Anonymous wrote:As a punishment, USNWR should move Stanford to #19.
As a Stanford grad of Chumash heritage this comment is pretty insulting. I often wonder why people don't know Stanford's horrible history and then realize it's because the school has made the brand so impervious to ire that it is overlooked. I will post it again so it doesn't get lost...many people died at his hand.
https://stanfordpolitics.org/2017/10/28/overdue-encounter-with-past-indigenous-oppression/
Anonymous
10/14/2022 23:26
Subject: Stanford apologizes for limiting Jewish students in 1950s
As a punishment, USNWR should move Stanford to #19.
Anonymous
10/14/2022 23:23
Subject: Re:Stanford apologizes for limiting Jewish students in 1950s
Anonymous wrote:Stanford has a lot of apologizing to do.
https://stanfordpolitics.org/2017/10/28/overdue-encounter-with-past-indigenous-oppression/
Yes they do, Leland Stanford is directly responsible for the murder of thousands of Native Americans and unapologetically profited from it. He was pure scum.