Anonymous wrote:More info on the voucher program problems. This article mentions a property management co I am avoiding.

https://thedcline.org/2019/05/31/a-connecticut-avenue-apartment-complex-shows-effects-of-a-legal-loophole-and-cracks-in-city-housing-subsidy-programs/

Anonymous wrote:Can anyone please post a link to the HUD report? I tried to search and saw a Washington Post article about it but the article didn't have the name or link to the report.

Anonymous wrote:Grovesnor area of Rockville/North Bethesda has older condos that are often for rent (laundry may or not be in the unit). The area leads into good schools. The condos are a mixture of older residents, young professionals and some families. Also Pooks Hill Road - the Promenade condo building in Bethesda.

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Anonymous wrote:Beware, some buildings in DC NW, and even condo towers are taking housing vouchers and have a big enough influx of tenants whose lifestyle may not be compatible with yours..

My elderly aunt had to move out, she couldn't stand pervasive pot smoke everywhere, increase in levels of noise and crime.

Op here. I have made a list of those buildings and property management companies that run them. Will be avoiding them.

How did you get that list? I didn't know there was a list.

Just by looking online about the issue. There are I think 3 officially on the MPD “nuisance” list but several others mentioned. You can also kind of tell some of them because the price for a 2 bedroom is exactly the voucher amount. I also check reviews online and think I have identified a property management company that does a better job with screening because I don’t see complaints.

But not gonna lie, the DC voucher policy is one factor making MD look better.

I am wondering what the outcome of voucher craze will be. Large management companies look at it as a cash cow and they don't mind when market rate tenants and especially rent control tenants are driven away by misbehaving section 8 tenants. At some point the entire buildings will turn into government subsidized privately run projects that will suck the taxpayer dry and pad the pockets of corporate landlords. Small landlords are apparently penalized if they refuse section 8 tenants or indicate in any way that they don't take vouchers. So, it is spreading into smaller buildings and single family buildings too. LLs are compensated for potential damages with higher rent should they be unlucky to get a tenant with issues. Even if they don't want to rent to potentially problematic tenants, they are forced to. But taxpayers and those living in the city next to them aren't compensated, and their taxes are likely going to rise to create more expensive housing for low income. Let's guess what happens next.

HUD recently issued a report criticizing DC for overpaying for vouchers. Maybe that will move the needle.

It’s important to point out that the problematic DC program is not section 8. It’s vouchers to house the formerly homeless. The problem is DC provides zero services to the buildings or recipients to ensure they behave properly. They just dump them in the building and say it’s the landlord’s responsibility to oversee building security.

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Anonymous wrote:Beware, some buildings in DC NW, and even condo towers are taking housing vouchers and have a big enough influx of tenants whose lifestyle may not be compatible with yours..

My elderly aunt had to move out, she couldn't stand pervasive pot smoke everywhere, increase in levels of noise and crime.

Op here. I have made a list of those buildings and property management companies that run them. Will be avoiding them.

How did you get that list? I didn't know there was a list.

Just by looking online about the issue. There are I think 3 officially on the MPD “nuisance” list but several others mentioned. You can also kind of tell some of them because the price for a 2 bedroom is exactly the voucher amount. I also check reviews online and think I have identified a property management company that does a better job with screening because I don’t see complaints.

But not gonna lie, the DC voucher policy is one factor making MD look better.

I am wondering what the outcome of voucher craze will be. Large management companies look at it as a cash cow and they don't mind when market rate tenants and especially rent control tenants are driven away by misbehaving section 8 tenants. At some point the entire buildings will turn into government subsidized privately run projects that will suck the taxpayer dry and pad the pockets of corporate landlords. Small landlords are apparently penalized if they refuse section 8 tenants or indicate in any way that they don't take vouchers. So, it is spreading into smaller buildings and single family buildings too. LLs are compensated for potential damages with higher rent should they be unlucky to get a tenant with issues. Even if they don't want to rent to potentially problematic tenants, they are forced to. But taxpayers and those living in the city next to them aren't compensated, and their taxes are likely going to rise to create more expensive housing for low income. Let's guess what happens next.

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Anonymous wrote:Beware, some buildings in DC NW, and even condo towers are taking housing vouchers and have a big enough influx of tenants whose lifestyle may not be compatible with yours..

My elderly aunt had to move out, she couldn't stand pervasive pot smoke everywhere, increase in levels of noise and crime.

Op here. I have made a list of those buildings and property management companies that run them. Will be avoiding them.

How did you get that list? I didn't know there was a list.

Just by looking online about the issue. There are I think 3 officially on the MPD “nuisance” list but several others mentioned. You can also kind of tell some of them because the price for a 2 bedroom is exactly the voucher amount. I also check reviews online and think I have identified a property management company that does a better job with screening because I don’t see complaints.

But not gonna lie, the DC voucher policy is one factor making MD look better.

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Anonymous wrote:Beware, some buildings in DC NW, and even condo towers are taking housing vouchers and have a big enough influx of tenants whose lifestyle may not be compatible with yours..

My elderly aunt had to move out, she couldn't stand pervasive pot smoke everywhere, increase in levels of noise and crime.

Op here. I have made a list of those buildings and property management companies that run them. Will be avoiding them.

Good for you, you are smart. another way to avoid it is to rent a rowhome or an SFH, this way you aren't dealing with shared hallways, and small LLs in good neighborhoods would be reluctant to risk taking on tenants without a good FICO score and a solid background check.

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Anonymous wrote:Beware, some buildings in DC NW, and even condo towers are taking housing vouchers and have a big enough influx of tenants whose lifestyle may not be compatible with yours..

My elderly aunt had to move out, she couldn't stand pervasive pot smoke everywhere, increase in levels of noise and crime.

Op here. I have made a list of those buildings and property management companies that run them. Will be avoiding them.

How did you get that list? I didn't know there was a list.

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Anonymous wrote:I personally always had more luck with smaller landlords— both cheaper rent and generally more responsive. A landlord who held on their starter condo or home is always a good bet, because they have an interest in maintaining it and generally are interested in stable tenants over lots of profit.

Op here. Yeah, I think so to. On the flip side, you risk the landlord wanting to sell or move their kid in. Is a realtor the best way to find smaller landlords? I do see some single family homes/townhomes/condos on Hotpads etc from time to time but not sure if you really need to go through a realtor?

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Anonymous wrote:Beware, some buildings in DC NW, and even condo towers are taking housing vouchers and have a big enough influx of tenants whose lifestyle may not be compatible with yours..

My elderly aunt had to move out, she couldn't stand pervasive pot smoke everywhere, increase in levels of noise and crime.

Op here. I have made a list of those buildings and property management companies that run them. Will be avoiding them.

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Anonymous wrote:Beware, some buildings in DC NW, and even condo towers are taking housing vouchers and have a big enough influx of tenants whose lifestyle may not be compatible with yours..

My elderly aunt had to move out, she couldn't stand pervasive pot smoke everywhere, increase in levels of noise and crime.

Op here. I have made a list of those buildings and property management companies that run them. Will be avoiding them.

Anonymous wrote:Beware, some buildings in DC NW, and even condo towers are taking housing vouchers and have a big enough influx of tenants whose lifestyle may not be compatible with yours..

My elderly aunt had to move out, she couldn't stand pervasive pot smoke everywhere, increase in levels of noise and crime.