Anonymous
Post 10/05/2022 12:26     Subject: Velma is new Scooby-Doo Halloween movie identifies as LGBQT
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:She's always been a lesbian, it's just that mores have changed enough that subtext can now be text.


She looks pretty hetro hot here…


It takes a special kind of idiot to think you've disproved her queerness by pointing out she's pretty.


The implication that being less conventionally hot means you're more likely to be queer reminds me of being like 12 when "gay" was an insult and we were all way too conscious of narrow beauty standards. It's depressing, and insulting in different ways to multiple groups.
Anonymous
Post 10/05/2022 12:24     Subject: Velma is new Scooby-Doo Halloween movie identifies as LGBQT
Anonymous wrote:Here is the CNN article

https://www.cnn.com/2022/10/05/entertainment/velma-scooby-doo-gay/index.html

I guess I really don’t understand why Velma needs to “come out” in a kids Halloween cartoon. Why does she need to identify as anything? Is her crush on a girl really need to be part of the storyline for a kids holiday movie? No qualms with whatever people decide it right for them sexually, this just seems like an odd choice for a Halloween storyline


Even as a kid I concluded:
-Velma is gay
-Shaggy and Scoob were straight up on the reefer all the time
-Fred and the other female character (whose name I'm not immediately recalling) were FWB or a couple.

This is NBD to me.
Anonymous
Post 10/05/2022 12:24     Subject: Velma is new Scooby-Doo Halloween movie identifies as LGBQT
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Here is the CNN article

https://www.cnn.com/2022/10/05/entertainment/velma-scooby-doo-gay/index.html

I guess I really don’t understand why Velma needs to “come out” in a kids Halloween cartoon. Why does she need to identify as anything? Is her crush on a girl really need to be part of the storyline for a kids holiday movie? No qualms with whatever people decide it right for them sexually, this just seems like an odd choice for a Halloween storyline


Oh, so you also are against the heterosexual teen/preteen crushes in kids Halloween movies like “Hocus Pocus” and “Casper”? Please link to the posts that you’ve made about “why a crush is necessary” in movies like those. I will wait.

Hmm?


+1. Surely you have a problem with romance or crushes of any sort in kids’ movies—why does Harry Potter need to have crushes on Cho Chang and Ginny Weasley? Does it move the plot of Harry Potter forward?
Anonymous
Post 10/05/2022 12:23     Subject: Velma is new Scooby-Doo Halloween movie identifies as LGBQT
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:She's always been a lesbian, it's just that mores have changed enough that subtext can now be text.


Right? She was always LGBT. It was clear subtext.


What subtext? She wore glasses? Was smart?
I don’t remember any innuendo. Sex of any kind didn’t seem to enter into the show. What was so clear (that I missed entirely), that she was a lesbian?

Like a PP said, they solved mysteries and ate Scooby snacks. The cool thing about cartoons as a kid, was that they didn’t have all the boring mushy stuff that adult shows had. Why do we have to insert adult themes into kids shows?


Exactly. This would be far more interesting if they made the pretty blonde one gay.


But they wouldn’t make the pretty blonde queer because everything was confined to subtext then. Now they could do that, and make it canon, and kids wouldn’t bat an eye at it. Many parents, OTOH, would clearly be upset.

Not so different from the middle-aged men who felt Ghostbusters was ruined for them by an all-female reboot.
Anonymous
Post 10/05/2022 12:22     Subject: Velma is new Scooby-Doo Halloween movie identifies as LGBQT
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:She's always been a lesbian, it's just that mores have changed enough that subtext can now be text.


She looks pretty hetro hot here…


It takes a special kind of idiot to think you've disproved her queerness by pointing out she's pretty.


DP. I agree with you, but then why are so many saying they knew she (or, say, Peppermint Patty) were gay all along? What’s the tell if not their physical appearance?
Anonymous
Post 10/05/2022 12:21     Subject: Velma is new Scooby-Doo Halloween movie identifies as LGBQT
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:She's always been a lesbian, it's just that mores have changed enough that subtext can now be text.


Right? She was always LGBT. It was clear subtext.


What subtext? She wore glasses? Was smart?
I don’t remember any innuendo. Sex of any kind didn’t seem to enter into the show. What was so clear (that I missed entirely), that she was a lesbian?

Like a PP said, they solved mysteries and ate Scooby snacks. The cool thing about cartoons as a kid, was that they didn’t have all the boring mushy stuff that adult shows had. Why do we have to insert adult themes into kids shows?


Scooby snacks were clearly proxy for MJ. They always had the munchies. On and on.

This was a cartoon with lots of intentional subtext.

And we have to talk about Fred, he was clearly in the closet.


Yep. If you don’t get it, you don’t get it.
Anonymous
Post 10/05/2022 12:18     Subject: Velma is new Scooby-Doo Halloween movie identifies as LGBQT
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:She's always been a lesbian, it's just that mores have changed enough that subtext can now be text.


She looks pretty hetro hot here…


It takes a special kind of idiot to think you've disproved her queerness by pointing out she's pretty.
Anonymous
Post 10/05/2022 12:15     Subject: Velma is new Scooby-Doo Halloween movie identifies as LGBQT
Anonymous wrote:She's always been a lesbian, it's just that mores have changed enough that subtext can now be text.


She looks pretty hetro hot here…
Anonymous
Post 10/05/2022 12:15     Subject: Velma is new Scooby-Doo Halloween movie identifies as LGBQT
Anonymous wrote:Here is the CNN article

https://www.cnn.com/2022/10/05/entertainment/velma-scooby-doo-gay/index.html

I guess I really don’t understand why Velma needs to “come out” in a kids Halloween cartoon. Why does she need to identify as anything? Is her crush on a girl really need to be part of the storyline for a kids holiday movie? No qualms with whatever people decide it right for them sexually, this just seems like an odd choice for a Halloween storyline


Oh, so you also are against the heterosexual teen/preteen crushes in kids Halloween movies like “Hocus Pocus” and “Casper”? Please link to the posts that you’ve made about “why a crush is necessary” in movies like those. I will wait.

Hmm?
Anonymous
Post 10/05/2022 12:13     Subject: Velma is new Scooby-Doo Halloween movie identifies as LGBQT
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:She's always been a lesbian, it's just that mores have changed enough that subtext can now be text.


Right? She was always LGBT. It was clear subtext.


What subtext? She wore glasses? Was smart?
I don’t remember any innuendo. Sex of any kind didn’t seem to enter into the show. What was so clear (that I missed entirely), that she was a lesbian?

Like a PP said, they solved mysteries and ate Scooby snacks. The cool thing about cartoons as a kid, was that they didn’t have all the boring mushy stuff that adult shows had. Why do we have to insert adult themes into kids shows?


Exactly. This would be far more interesting if they made the pretty blonde one gay.
Anonymous
Post 10/05/2022 12:13     Subject: Velma is new Scooby-Doo Halloween movie identifies as LGBQT
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:She's always been a lesbian, it's just that mores have changed enough that subtext can now be text.


Right? She was always LGBT. It was clear subtext.


What subtext? She wore glasses? Was smart?
I don’t remember any innuendo. Sex of any kind didn’t seem to enter into the show. What was so clear (that I missed entirely), that she was a lesbian?

Like a PP said, they solved mysteries and ate Scooby snacks. The cool thing about cartoons as a kid, was that they didn’t have all the boring mushy stuff that adult shows had. Why do we have to insert adult themes into kids shows?


Scooby snacks were clearly proxy for MJ. They always had the munchies. On and on.

This was a cartoon with lots of intentional subtext.

And we have to talk about Fred, he was clearly in the closet.
Anonymous
Post 10/05/2022 12:09     Subject: Re:Velma is new Scooby-Doo Halloween movie identifies as LGBQT
Of course this should be in a kids movie. For the betterment of society kids need to be exposed to this early and often. Don’t let us go backwards here. She deserves to be who she is fully and out. Subtext is stupid and could damage kids who think they need to lay low and have people read between the lines.
Anonymous
Post 10/05/2022 12:08     Subject: Velma is new Scooby-Doo Halloween movie identifies as LGBQT
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:She's always been a lesbian, it's just that mores have changed enough that subtext can now be text.


Right? She was always LGBT. It was clear subtext.


What subtext? She wore glasses? Was smart?
I don’t remember any innuendo. Sex of any kind didn’t seem to enter into the show. What was so clear (that I missed entirely), that she was a lesbian?

Like a PP said, they solved mysteries and ate Scooby snacks. The cool thing about cartoons as a kid, was that they didn’t have all the boring mushy stuff that adult shows had. Why do we have to insert adult themes into kids shows?
Anonymous
Post 10/05/2022 12:07     Subject: Velma is new Scooby-Doo Halloween movie identifies as LGBQT
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:She was always obviously gay. Come on.


Why? They were friends solving mysteries in a kids cartoon. I assumed their sexual preferences were never explicit bc it is totally irrelevant to the theme of the show and storylines


+1
Anonymous
Post 10/05/2022 12:07     Subject: Re:Velma is new Scooby-Doo Halloween movie identifies as LGBQT
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Well, add this to the list of things we won’t be watching.


Kids’ movies are for kids. They’re not for parents. Most kids and teenagers are much more comfortable in a diverse world than their parents are, because this is their reality. That’s to be celebrated, not looked down on.


Right and to say that Scooby-Doo movies and episodes never focused on love between heterosexual characters is just false. The Daphne and Fred storyline was always about Daphne being jealous of Fred and his interactions with other female characters.


Yes! The stereotyping of Daphne was so annoying.