If you think kids know basic hygiene practices, you’ve clearly never stood in a lower elementary classroom.

Anonymous wrote:I don't think it's fear-mongering to suggest that it can helpful to teach kids basic good hygiene principles (cough into your elbow, use a tissue, sanitize after you touch your snot or phlegm, be sure custodians or teachers clean surfaces regularly). These are basic public health practices that we've known for ages. Now some people choose to mask when they are symptomatic, and that's fine, too. None of these things are required, but they can help minimize spread within a classroom, which is a closed environment with very, very close contact of 18-30 individuals. That the flu spreads in the fall and winter is inevitable, but attending to hygiene and cleaning practices can reduce the impact of illness on a class as a community.

Symptomatic with the flu?!? No, don't come to school.

Don't think some magic mask will keep everyone from getting sick, there are 14 randomized control trials saying that it won't (see post above).

Lastly, we need to remind people to tell kids to wash their hands and cough into their elbows?!? LOL I'm sure that was the point of the poster here. Probably was the same person posting here about monkey pox 3 months ago.

I don't think it's fear-mongering to suggest that it can helpful to teach kids basic good hygiene principles (cough into your elbow, use a tissue, sanitize after you touch your snot or phlegm, be sure custodians or teachers clean surfaces regularly). These are basic public health practices that we've known for ages. Now some people choose to mask when they are symptomatic, and that's fine, too. None of these things are required, but they can help minimize spread within a classroom, which is a closed environment with very, very close contact of 18-30 individuals. That the flu spreads in the fall and winter is inevitable, but attending to hygiene and cleaning practices can reduce the impact of illness on a class as a community.

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Anonymous wrote:So stupidly dramatic.

You certainly don’t need to keep kids home to keep them from getting sick. You need to expect communities to care about people. But the community typically only care about themselves. Before, during and after Covid. Community goes out and about when they are sick with a great big “f” you to everyone else. And the rest of the community justifiers other’s selfish behavior.

Decent people care about public health.

Thinking there is no way to stop illness is so American.

Public Health 101 is not blaming people for the spread of infectious diseases. The same type of mindset blamed gay people for the spread of AIDS in the 1980s.

Sounds like you have a problem with human beings being humans. Humans are social animals. That is human nature (just as it is for humans to have sex). And there are mental health problems when you humans don't do those things like socializing.

The same people fear mongering about the flu were just fearmongering about monkey pox in schools, which didn't happen. Some of the same public health experts who are all for force masking children forever (like Greggg Gonsalves from Yale) were highly opposed to shutting down a public fetish party in San Francisco thrown by the city when we knew that 99% of people getting monkeypox were men who have sex with men. Public health's shaming of COVID was disgusting and contrary to every pandemic playbook.

Anonymous wrote:So stupidly dramatic.

You certainly don’t need to keep kids home to keep them from getting sick. You need to expect communities to care about people. But the community typically only care about themselves. Before, during and after Covid. Community goes out and about when they are sick with a great big “f” you to everyone else. And the rest of the community justifiers other’s selfish behavior.

Decent people care about public health.

Thinking there is no way to stop illness is so American.

Public Health 101 is not blaming people for the spread of infectious diseases. The same type of mindset blamed gay people for the spread of AIDS in the 1980s.

Sounds like you have a problem with human beings being humans. Humans are social animals. That is human nature (just as it is for humans to have sex). And there are mental health problems when you humans don't do those things like socializing.

So stupidly dramatic.

You certainly don’t need to keep kids home to keep them from getting sick. You need to expect communities to care about people. But the community typically only care about themselves. Before, during and after Covid. Community goes out and about when they are sick with a great big “f” you to everyone else. And the rest of the community justifiers other’s selfish behavior.

Decent people care about public health.

Thinking there is no way to stop illness is so American.

Anonymous wrote:Why are so many people so willing to roll over and believe they are defenseless to getting sick with a week long illness?

Suckers.

You are so right. I am not defenseless. I'm going to pick my kids up right now. No more interacting with other people for us.

Thanks for the pep talk PP!

Why are so many people so willing to roll over and believe they are defenseless to getting sick with a week long illness?

Suckers.

Anonymous wrote:And boy are my arms tired.

And boy are my arms tired.

Anonymous wrote:My son tested positive for flu. Crazy high fever (sick when he woke up and it was 104!) Tylenol didn't take it down, just ibuprofen. Coughing, sore throat, and runny nose. My husband and I are doing okay.

I should note we were planning on getting flu shots this weekend . I'll still get them anyway once we're all clear of the flu in case another strain circulates later in thr year.

My son tested positive for flu. Crazy high fever (sick when he woke up and it was 104!) Tylenol didn't take it down, just ibuprofen. Coughing, sore throat, and runny nose. My husband and I are doing okay.

Then don't wear one? And let people who want to alone?

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It's a tranmissible virus. There's nothing you can do other than (i) go get a flu shot (and hope it's the right strain) or (ii) locking your child in their house. Otherwise, focus your time on something productive that can help this community, especially its most vulnerable demographics, recover from the horrible school policies you most likely supported.

Except you can also make sure you and your kids practice good hand washing hygiene, cover coughs and sneezes, and possibly wear a mask if you are coughing and sneezing but feel well enough to go to school...

Oh god, here we go again. I knew the OP was still part of those 10% of mask wearers dead enders by the subject matters.

14 randomized control trials - 14! - prior to COVID showed that masks didn't make a difference with the flu.
https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26/5/19-0994_article

These same people would be calling for kids to be forced masked again in school if it wasn't for the fact there's a law forbidding it in VA.

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Anonymous wrote:Have the COVIDians moved onto worrying about flu in schools now?!?

It's like humans haven't survived for 100K+ years.

I wish they'd put the same energy into improving the academic performance of our public schools, which just suffered a significant amount of damage because of prolonged school closures they supported. The learning loss, especially among the most vulnerable students, is so sad.

Calm down. People are allowed to want to avoid the flu. It just wiped out the entire family of my friend in another state and her 5 year old is now pissing blood. Also, your performative phony concern for the most vulnerable (who you don’t get to speak for) is showing.

It's a tranmissible virus. There's nothing you can do other than (i) go get a flu shot (and hope it's the right strain) or (ii) locking your child in their house. Otherwise, focus your time on something productive that can help this community, especially its most vulnerable demographics, recover from the horrible school policies you most likely supported.

The Yamagata strain has disappeared so I would say you are wrong.