Anonymous
09/23/2022 13:33
Subject: Re:Reading groups
Anonymous wrote:My kid is in 3rd grade, if I feel the group is not right for him do you think I should say something to the teacher?
I guess the question is why you think that. Are you basing it on perception of the other kids in the group? Or have you actually seen the book and lexile level and have data suggesting your child has mastered that content?
Anonymous
09/23/2022 13:14
Subject: Reading groups
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Our teacher formed them based on some of her stereotypes of who is a smart kid and who isn't. It took her about a month to put them into groups that actually match their abilities.
It was annoying because my child had been in the highest group all the previous years and testing showed he belonged in the highest group again that year.
Also the reward for being in the highest group these days is meeting every other month instead of weekly.
+1
This is very true. It's not necessarily a good thing.
Anonymous
09/23/2022 13:13
Subject: Reading groups
Anonymous wrote:Daaaang you rich parents are annoying. You do not know anywhere near the detail about other kids to be able to determine if your child is in the right group or not. That is just the height of disrespect to the teacher - basically you do not trust them or have any respect for their abilities in the classroom. I have NEVER had a parent question groupings in 15 years of teaching.
It's really arrogant to think there are not bad teachers out there. People probably don't question you because you are good at your job and don't stereotype kids.
There are not a lot of kids who look like my child at our particular school that are fluent readers in K. A teacher who assumed my child based on their race and ethnicity was academically behind put them in a remedial group in 2nd before testing was done. After testing, moved to the top group. Don't assume parents are stupid.
Anonymous
09/23/2022 13:05
Subject: Reading groups
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Our teacher formed them based on some of her stereotypes of who is a smart kid and who isn't. It took her about a month to put them into groups that actually match their abilities.
It was annoying because my child had been in the highest group all the previous years and testing showed he belonged in the highest group again that year.
We had a teacher who just assigned the kids based on what the K teacher had said at the end of the previous year. The problem was DC got into reading heavy over the summer, and their progress was ignored. I later had them assessed at UMD and turns out they were reading 6 levels higher. I sent the paperwork to the teacher but they said it was wrong. A different teacher assessed DC at the end of the year turns out they were reading 12 levels over their group.
I don't realize that UMD has assessment, can you provide me a link if possible? My kid was assessed at DRA 18 before the start of K last year. K Teacher told me that he was DRA 8 mid-K. I did not say anything because it is difficult to tell who is right or wrong. My kid loves to pick reading level 1 to read all the way but I see that he can read chapter book at home.
Are they planning to do MAP assessment for 1st grade this year? I see there is MAP P testing for 1st grade, is that for reading or math assessment or both? K teacher never shared with me his reading level until I asked many times last year, and I hope they share it this yea for 1st grade.
They take MAP in both math and reading three times a year.
They use the MAP-P until grade 3 at which point they give the MAP-R and MAP-M. To my knowledge the MAP-P covers just math.
I know UMD's ed school does some things for ES level education. You'd need to reach out to them or check their website for the details.
Anonymous
09/23/2022 12:55
Subject: Reading groups
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Our teacher formed them based on some of her stereotypes of who is a smart kid and who isn't. It took her about a month to put them into groups that actually match their abilities.
It was annoying because my child had been in the highest group all the previous years and testing showed he belonged in the highest group again that year.
We had a teacher who just assigned the kids based on what the K teacher had said at the end of the previous year. The problem was DC got into reading heavy over the summer, and their progress was ignored. I later had them assessed at UMD and turns out they were reading 6 levels higher. I sent the paperwork to the teacher but they said it was wrong. A different teacher assessed DC at the end of the year turns out they were reading 12 levels over their group.
I don't realize that UMD has assessment, can you provide me a link if possible? My kid was assessed at DRA 18 before the start of K last year. K Teacher told me that he was DRA 8 mid-K. I did not say anything because it is difficult to tell who is right or wrong. My kid loves to pick reading level 1 to read all the way but I see that he can read chapter book at home.
Are they planning to do MAP assessment for 1st grade this year? I see there is MAP P testing for 1st grade, is that for reading or math assessment or both? K teacher never shared with me his reading level until I asked many times last year, and I hope they share it this yea for 1st grade.
They take MAP in both math and reading three times a year.
Anonymous
09/23/2022 12:46
Subject: Reading groups
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Our teacher formed them based on some of her stereotypes of who is a smart kid and who isn't. It took her about a month to put them into groups that actually match their abilities.
It was annoying because my child had been in the highest group all the previous years and testing showed he belonged in the highest group again that year.
We had a teacher who just assigned the kids based on what the K teacher had said at the end of the previous year. The problem was DC got into reading heavy over the summer, and their progress was ignored. I later had them assessed at UMD and turns out they were reading 6 levels higher. I sent the paperwork to the teacher but they said it was wrong. A different teacher assessed DC at the end of the year turns out they were reading 12 levels over their group.
I don't realize that UMD has assessment, can you provide me a link if possible? My kid was assessed at DRA 18 before the start of K last year. K Teacher told me that he was DRA 8 mid-K. I did not say anything because it is difficult to tell who is right or wrong. My kid loves to pick reading level 1 to read all the way but I see that he can read chapter book at home.
Are they planning to do MAP assessment for 1st grade this year? I see there is MAP P testing for 1st grade, is that for reading or math assessment or both? K teacher never shared with me his reading level until I asked many times last year, and I hope they share it this yea for 1st grade.
Anonymous
09/23/2022 12:17
Subject: Reading groups
Anonymous wrote:ThAts too much to try to get involved in the teachers forming of groups. Stay in your lane.
Would be glad to if this was done competently, but often it isn't and can greatly impact their year.
Anonymous
09/23/2022 12:16
Subject: Reading groups
Anonymous wrote:Daaaang you rich parents are annoying. You do not know anywhere near the detail about other kids to be able to determine if your child is in the right group or not. That is just the height of disrespect to the teacher - basically you do not trust them or have any respect for their abilities in the classroom. I have NEVER had a parent question groupings in 15 years of teaching.
Hmm, I based these things off of lexile level, and it had nothing to do with other people's children.
Anonymous
09/23/2022 12:12
Subject: Reading groups
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Our teacher formed them based on some of her stereotypes of who is a smart kid and who isn't. It took her about a month to put them into groups that actually match their abilities.
It was annoying because my child had been in the highest group all the previous years and testing showed he belonged in the highest group again that year.
We had a teacher who just assigned the kids based on what the K teacher had said at the end of the previous year. The problem was DC got into reading heavy over the summer, and their progress was ignored. I later had them assessed at UMD and turns out they were reading 6 levels higher. I sent the paperwork to the teacher but they said it was wrong. A different teacher assessed DC at the end of the year turns out they were reading 12 levels over their group.
From what my DC's kindergarten teacher said last year, they actually spent very little time in reading groups anyway, because there was too much Benchmark material to get through. Maybe it's different for the older grades.
Anonymous
09/23/2022 12:00
Subject: Reading groups
Daaaang you rich parents are annoying. You do not know anywhere near the detail about other kids to be able to determine if your child is in the right group or not. That is just the height of disrespect to the teacher - basically you do not trust them or have any respect for their abilities in the classroom. I have NEVER had a parent question groupings in 15 years of teaching.
Anonymous
09/23/2022 11:57
Subject: Reading groups
ThAts too much to try to get involved in the teachers forming of groups. Stay in your lane.
Anonymous
09/23/2022 11:52
Subject: Re:Reading groups
Anonymous wrote:My kid is in 3rd grade, if I feel the group is not right for him do you think I should say something to the teacher?
I felt that way in the beginning of 3rd but didn't say anything until I got the map-r results. I found the info that correlates group level to lexile and map score and asked why there was this big discrepancy. The teacher without me saying anything made the adjustment to their reading group.
Anonymous
09/23/2022 09:14
Subject: Re:Reading groups
My kid is in 3rd grade, if I feel the group is not right for him do you think I should say something to the teacher?
Anonymous
09/23/2022 08:42
Subject: Reading groups
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Our teacher formed them based on some of her stereotypes of who is a smart kid and who isn't. It took her about a month to put them into groups that actually match their abilities.
It was annoying because my child had been in the highest group all the previous years and testing showed he belonged in the highest group again that year.
We had a teacher who just assigned the kids based on what the K teacher had said at the end of the previous year. The problem was DC got into reading heavy over the summer, and their progress was ignored. I later had them assessed at UMD and turns out they were reading 6 levels higher. I sent the paperwork to the teacher but they said it was wrong. A different teacher assessed DC at the end of the year turns out they were reading 12 levels over their group.
Unfortunately, most teachers are overworked and have limited time to perform these assessments, and can make assumptions that often don't hold up to scrutiny. I feel bad that your child basically didn't have helpful reading instruction for an entire school year but this is the sort of thing that happens in early ES all too often.
Anonymous
09/23/2022 08:39
Subject: Reading groups
Anonymous wrote:Our teacher formed them based on some of her stereotypes of who is a smart kid and who isn't. It took her about a month to put them into groups that actually match their abilities.
It was annoying because my child had been in the highest group all the previous years and testing showed he belonged in the highest group again that year.
Also the reward for being in the highest group these days is meeting every other month instead of weekly.