Anonymous
09/13/2022 12:17
Subject: Re:Lyon Village - please explain
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:We lived on the Hill and loved it. We moved to a walkable part of Arlington after kids because:
(1) as non-federal employees we didn't get into a daycare or preschool on the Hill and wanted our 2-3 yo in a group program
(2) we wanted stable schools through elementary, middle and high school with a stable community without lots of kids leaving, moving to private or getting split by the lottery
(3) we wanted more outdoor space
(4) we wanted easier parking for us and our visitors (including private EV parking for our car)
(5) we wanted access to VA universities and colleges
(6) Arlington is closer to one of our jobs in VA
(7) not having to worry about petty theft like our stroller or bikes being stolen off our front porch is really nice
But did you buy a $3 mil house in Lyon Village? That is my specific question!
Only 9 properties have sold for over $2.5 million in Lyon Village in the past 2 years one of those was an apartment building. The median sale price per Redfin is $1.85 Mil.
Anonymous
09/13/2022 12:16
Subject: Lyon Village - please explain
I'm sorry you can't afford the house you want OP
Anonymous
09/13/2022 12:13
Subject: Lyon Village - please explain
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:How are the houses all 2-3 mil in Lyon Village?? You can get something really nice on Capitol Hill in DC for 1.5 mil with more character and a nicer neighborhood. And with the $1mil you save, send your kid to private MS/HS.
You’re talking about people who want completely different things. Not a good comparison.
I'm not so sure about that. Clearly people paying $3mil in Lyon Village are doing it for walkability, proximity to metro, urban amenities. For those with kids, schools (that admittedly provide HS/MS options that the Hill does not.) I'm not sure how much different crime can be compared to the area close-in on the Hill near the Capitol. The comparison to the Hill is not a specific argument for the Hill - I'm just struggling to understand the Lyon Village prices that seem so inflated for how frankly dumpy it looks on Street View. Is the extra $1mil because you have a detatched home and a yard, plus all the same walkability?
It's for all of this PLUS a quiet, suburban feel. It's more like the suburban areas of DC than Capitol Hill. AU Park, Cleveland Park, etc.
Walkable to some good stuff, but it's not all in your backyard.
yet … you can get a gorgeous AU park house for 1.5 mil?
AU Park is not as close to the metro and retail. You get a nice suburban feel but you're still dealing with DC services and disfunction. Also, it's much further from the downtown business core of DC and the commute to other major office areas (Tyson's, "National Landing", etc) is worse as well.
The houses that are actually selling in Lyon Village aren't going for that much more than $1.5 million. The $2-$3 million ones sit.
Anonymous
09/13/2022 12:08
Subject: Re:Lyon Village - please explain
Anonymous wrote:We lived on the Hill and loved it. We moved to a walkable part of Arlington after kids because:
(1) as non-federal employees we didn't get into a daycare or preschool on the Hill and wanted our 2-3 yo in a group program
(2) we wanted stable schools through elementary, middle and high school with a stable community without lots of kids leaving, moving to private or getting split by the lottery
(3) we wanted more outdoor space
(4) we wanted easier parking for us and our visitors (including private EV parking for our car)
(5) we wanted access to VA universities and colleges
(6) Arlington is closer to one of our jobs in VA
(7) not having to worry about petty theft like our stroller or bikes being stolen off our front porch is really nice
But did you buy a $3 mil house in Lyon Village? That is my specific question!
Anonymous
09/13/2022 12:07
Subject: Lyon Village - please explain
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:How are the houses all 2-3 mil in Lyon Village?? You can get something really nice on Capitol Hill in DC for 1.5 mil with more character and a nicer neighborhood. And with the $1mil you save, send your kid to private MS/HS.
You’re talking about people who want completely different things. Not a good comparison.
I'm not so sure about that. Clearly people paying $3mil in Lyon Village are doing it for walkability, proximity to metro, urban amenities. For those with kids, schools (that admittedly provide HS/MS options that the Hill does not.) I'm not sure how much different crime can be compared to the area close-in on the Hill near the Capitol. The comparison to the Hill is not a specific argument for the Hill - I'm just struggling to understand the Lyon Village prices that seem so inflated for how frankly dumpy it looks on Street View. Is the extra $1mil because you have a detatched home and a yard, plus all the same walkability?
Look, I’m not one of those who is over the top worried about crime, and I’m not a big fan of Lyon Village either. We actually looked there upon being empty nesters and decided that despite it having many of the urban amenities and walkability that we were looking for, it was a little too sterile, lacking in diversity and, yes, in our opinion too expensive for what you get. But be serious: there is virtually no violent crime there, and there’s no comparison between there and Capitol Hill - or there and anywhere else in DC outside of Upper Caucasia - when it comes to crime.
When you argue otherwise you destroy your credibility.
There is basically no crime in my pocket of the Hill. I know that becuase I check the crime stats. It is very, very safe. I'm not arguing that there's no difference ... I'm just curious about it being a ONE MILLION dollar difference.
Do you never leave your pocket of the Hill to buy groceries or go out to dinner?
Beyond the crime issue, it's just different. The houses in Capitol Hill are smaller and older and generally attached to the one next to them. Parking is a perpetual problem. Schools are a question mark beyond elementary. There are plenty of reasons people may prefer a different neighborhood and that's ok! I'm glad you love yours!
Ok maybe the Hill isn’t the best comparator (unless you’re commuting to Amazon). But compared to NW DC?
Anonymous
09/13/2022 12:06
Subject: Lyon Village - please explain
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:How are the houses all 2-3 mil in Lyon Village?? You can get something really nice on Capitol Hill in DC for 1.5 mil with more character and a nicer neighborhood. And with the $1mil you save, send your kid to private MS/HS.
You’re talking about people who want completely different things. Not a good comparison.
I'm not so sure about that. Clearly people paying $3mil in Lyon Village are doing it for walkability, proximity to metro, urban amenities. For those with kids, schools (that admittedly provide HS/MS options that the Hill does not.) I'm not sure how much different crime can be compared to the area close-in on the Hill near the Capitol. The comparison to the Hill is not a specific argument for the Hill - I'm just struggling to understand the Lyon Village prices that seem so inflated for how frankly dumpy it looks on Street View. Is the extra $1mil because you have a detatched home and a yard, plus all the same walkability?
It's for all of this PLUS a quiet, suburban feel. It's more like the suburban areas of DC than Capitol Hill. AU Park, Cleveland Park, etc.
Walkable to some good stuff, but it's not all in your backyard.
yet … you can get a gorgeous AU park house for 1.5 mil?
Anonymous
09/13/2022 12:06
Subject: Lyon Village - please explain
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There is a lot less crime in Arlington, like a lot less. What's your life worth?
Is there really less crime in Lyon Village compared to other places?
Compared to downtown DC? Yes. There’s probably noise from the bars in Clarendon though, so there’s that.
Yes, you get laptops stolen from unlocked cars and you have drunk bros passing out on your neighbor's yard.
In DC, they just take your car while you're in it. In Arlington at least the drunk bros leave once they wake up, they don't live in a tent on the pubic street.
Anonymous
09/13/2022 12:03
Subject: Lyon Village - please explain
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There is a lot less crime in Arlington, like a lot less. What's your life worth?
Is there really less crime in Lyon Village compared to other places?
There’s certainly far less crime than on Capitol Hill, sure. But I don’t think that’s the driving factor. When a Karen asks “what’s your life worth” when referring to CH you know she’d never in a million years live in an urban center. There are people like that.
There’s a lot of crime in Logan Circle and prices are through the roof there.
I lived in an 'urban center' for decades and got tired of feeling scared. The stress difference between living in a high-crime city and a low crime close in suburb is phenomenal. Less stress and rats is so much better. I still visit the city, then exhale when I go home.
Anonymous
09/13/2022 11:46
Subject: Lyon Village - please explain
Crime and services are the difference. Not everyone wants to deal with DC government an living in a city and dealing with all of the things that go with it.
Also, private school is $50k a year. If you have 2 kids, that's $100k a year for 13 years. So, $1.3 million and tuition doesn't appreciate like a house does.
Also, private school is $50k a year. If you have 2 kids, that's $100k a year for 13 years. So, $1.3 million and tuition doesn't appreciate like a house does.
Anonymous
09/13/2022 11:42
Subject: Re:Lyon Village - please explain
We lived on the Hill and loved it. We moved to a walkable part of Arlington after kids because:
(1) as non-federal employees we didn't get into a daycare or preschool on the Hill and wanted our 2-3 yo in a group program
(2) we wanted stable schools through elementary, middle and high school with a stable community without lots of kids leaving, moving to private or getting split by the lottery
(3) we wanted more outdoor space
(4) we wanted easier parking for us and our visitors (including private EV parking for our car)
(5) we wanted access to VA universities and colleges
(6) Arlington is closer to one of our jobs in VA
(7) not having to worry about petty theft like our stroller or bikes being stolen off our front porch is really nice
(1) as non-federal employees we didn't get into a daycare or preschool on the Hill and wanted our 2-3 yo in a group program
(2) we wanted stable schools through elementary, middle and high school with a stable community without lots of kids leaving, moving to private or getting split by the lottery
(3) we wanted more outdoor space
(4) we wanted easier parking for us and our visitors (including private EV parking for our car)
(5) we wanted access to VA universities and colleges
(6) Arlington is closer to one of our jobs in VA
(7) not having to worry about petty theft like our stroller or bikes being stolen off our front porch is really nice
Anonymous
09/13/2022 11:38
Subject: Lyon Village - please explain
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There is a lot less crime in Arlington, like a lot less. What's your life worth?
Is there really less crime in Lyon Village compared to other places?
Compared to downtown DC? Yes. There’s probably noise from the bars in Clarendon though, so there’s that.
Yes, you get laptops stolen from unlocked cars and you have drunk bros passing out on your neighbor's yard.
Anonymous
09/13/2022 11:36
Subject: Lyon Village - please explain
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:How are the houses all 2-3 mil in Lyon Village?? You can get something really nice on Capitol Hill in DC for 1.5 mil with more character and a nicer neighborhood. And with the $1mil you save, send your kid to private MS/HS.
You’re talking about people who want completely different things. Not a good comparison.
I'm not so sure about that. Clearly people paying $3mil in Lyon Village are doing it for walkability, proximity to metro, urban amenities. For those with kids, schools (that admittedly provide HS/MS options that the Hill does not.) I'm not sure how much different crime can be compared to the area close-in on the Hill near the Capitol. The comparison to the Hill is not a specific argument for the Hill - I'm just struggling to understand the Lyon Village prices that seem so inflated for how frankly dumpy it looks on Street View. Is the extra $1mil because you have a detatched home and a yard, plus all the same walkability?
Look, I’m not one of those who is over the top worried about crime, and I’m not a big fan of Lyon Village either. We actually looked there upon being empty nesters and decided that despite it having many of the urban amenities and walkability that we were looking for, it was a little too sterile, lacking in diversity and, yes, in our opinion too expensive for what you get. But be serious: there is virtually no violent crime there, and there’s no comparison between there and Capitol Hill - or there and anywhere else in DC outside of Upper Caucasia - when it comes to crime.
When you argue otherwise you destroy your credibility.
There is basically no crime in my pocket of the Hill. I know that becuase I check the crime stats. It is very, very safe. I'm not arguing that there's no difference ... I'm just curious about it being a ONE MILLION dollar difference.
Do you never leave your pocket of the Hill to buy groceries or go out to dinner?
Beyond the crime issue, it's just different. The houses in Capitol Hill are smaller and older and generally attached to the one next to them. Parking is a perpetual problem. Schools are a question mark beyond elementary. There are plenty of reasons people may prefer a different neighborhood and that's ok! I'm glad you love yours!
Anonymous
09/13/2022 11:35
Subject: Lyon Village - please explain
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:How are the houses all 2-3 mil in Lyon Village?? You can get something really nice on Capitol Hill in DC for 1.5 mil with more character and a nicer neighborhood. And with the $1mil you save, send your kid to private MS/HS.
You’re talking about people who want completely different things. Not a good comparison.
I'm not so sure about that. Clearly people paying $3mil in Lyon Village are doing it for walkability, proximity to metro, urban amenities. For those with kids, schools (that admittedly provide HS/MS options that the Hill does not.) I'm not sure how much different crime can be compared to the area close-in on the Hill near the Capitol. The comparison to the Hill is not a specific argument for the Hill - I'm just struggling to understand the Lyon Village prices that seem so inflated for how frankly dumpy it looks on Street View. Is the extra $1mil because you have a detatched home and a yard, plus all the same walkability?
It's for all of this PLUS a quiet, suburban feel. It's more like the suburban areas of DC than Capitol Hill. AU Park, Cleveland Park, etc.
Walkable to some good stuff, but it's not all in your backyard.
Anonymous
09/13/2022 11:27
Subject: Lyon Village - please explain
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:How are the houses all 2-3 mil in Lyon Village?? You can get something really nice on Capitol Hill in DC for 1.5 mil with more character and a nicer neighborhood. And with the $1mil you save, send your kid to private MS/HS.
You’re talking about people who want completely different things. Not a good comparison.
I'm not so sure about that. Clearly people paying $3mil in Lyon Village are doing it for walkability, proximity to metro, urban amenities. For those with kids, schools (that admittedly provide HS/MS options that the Hill does not.) I'm not sure how much different crime can be compared to the area close-in on the Hill near the Capitol. The comparison to the Hill is not a specific argument for the Hill - I'm just struggling to understand the Lyon Village prices that seem so inflated for how frankly dumpy it looks on Street View. Is the extra $1mil because you have a detatched home and a yard, plus all the same walkability?
Look, I’m not one of those who is over the top worried about crime, and I’m not a big fan of Lyon Village either. We actually looked there upon being empty nesters and decided that despite it having many of the urban amenities and walkability that we were looking for, it was a little too sterile, lacking in diversity and, yes, in our opinion too expensive for what you get. But be serious: there is virtually no violent crime there, and there’s no comparison between there and Capitol Hill - or there and anywhere else in DC outside of Upper Caucasia - when it comes to crime.
When you argue otherwise you destroy your credibility.
There is basically no crime in my pocket of the Hill. I know that becuase I check the crime stats. It is very, very safe. I'm not arguing that there's no difference ... I'm just curious about it being a ONE MILLION dollar difference.
Anonymous
09/13/2022 11:26
Subject: Lyon Village - please explain
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There is a lot less crime in Arlington, like a lot less. What's your life worth?
Is there really less crime in Lyon Village compared to other places?
There’s certainly far less crime than on Capitol Hill, sure. But I don’t think that’s the driving factor. When a Karen asks “what’s your life worth” when referring to CH you know she’d never in a million years live in an urban center. There are people like that.
There’s a lot of crime in Logan Circle and prices are through the roof there.
Just stop with the blithe misogyny thing. Your SJ non profit would not approve!
I've lived in the District since you were in pull-ups in Evanston, when your little condo was a surface lot strewn with broken crack pipes, a stained twin mattress and chicken bones. Short of homicide, it's also nice to not have to _wonder_ if you're going to get caught in the cross fire every time you walk to get romaine/a cocktail/your prescription at CVS.